Original Posted By: Wayne and Kathy
Where can I find the best info on Corvair engine conversion.Duane RevennaughWhere can I find the best info on Corvair engineconversion.Duane Revennaugh________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Duane
Duane,Have you got an Article (1/4 inch thick by R.G. Huggins??? If not I'll sendyou a copy of "The Corvair Experimental Aircraft Engine" Technical Manualfor a couple of bucks for mail. My address is 34 Westhumber Blvd. TorontoOntario, M9W 3M6.That goes for any one else that wants one.Dom. Bellissimo ----------________________________________________________________________________________
Duane,Have you got an Article (1/4 inch thick by R.G. Huggins??? If not I'll sendyou a copy of "The Corvair Experimental Aircraft Engine" Technical Manualfor a couple of bucks for mail. My address is 34 Westhumber Blvd. TorontoOntario, M9W 3M6.That goes for any one else that wants one.Dom. Bellissimo ----------________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: "BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC"
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> > Duane,> Have you got an Article (1/4 inch thick by R.G. Huggins??? If not I'll send> you a copy of "The Corvair Experimental Aircraft Engine" Technical Manual> for a couple of bucks for mail. My address is 34 Westhumber Blvd. Toronto> Ontario, M9W 3M6.> That goes for any one else that wants one.> Dom. BellissimoThanks! The check is in the mail.I'm new here and joined because I'm installing a 'vair in myhomebuilt, and I know that the Pietenpol was the pioneer of theuse of that engine in aircraft. What I'm after is some real timeinfo on the use of the engine, from people who are actuallyusing it, or quit using it for one reason or another... prosand cons, things to do or avoid, etc.Would there be a website or two with some good photos of theinstallation of a 'vair in a Piet?... or even a page or twodedicated to building and or installing a 'vair for aircraft use?Thanks!Pat________________________________________________________________________________
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> > Duane,> Have you got an Article (1/4 inch thick by R.G. Huggins??? If not I'll send> you a copy of "The Corvair Experimental Aircraft Engine" Technical Manual> for a couple of bucks for mail. My address is 34 Westhumber Blvd. Toronto> Ontario, M9W 3M6.> That goes for any one else that wants one.> Dom. BellissimoThanks! The check is in the mail.I'm new here and joined because I'm installing a 'vair in myhomebuilt, and I know that the Pietenpol was the pioneer of theuse of that engine in aircraft. What I'm after is some real timeinfo on the use of the engine, from people who are actuallyusing it, or quit using it for one reason or another... prosand cons, things to do or avoid, etc.Would there be a website or two with some good photos of theinstallation of a 'vair in a Piet?... or even a page or twodedicated to building and or installing a 'vair for aircraft use?Thanks!Pat________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: "BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC"
Patrick,Well I'm still experimenting, I guess. I've just rebuilt the engine over theweekend. The total process took 5 days, I got the cyl. deglazed only. Keptthem stock. However I opened the clearence mor like an aircraft engine. Myautomachine shop recommended an extra thous. clearance (to 2.5 thous.). Allpistons however were replaced (forged) The reason I had to rebuild is that Idetonated a piston. Try not to do that. I found my stromberg carb(NA-S3a1had the set up wrong. The float would pre-maturely shut off theneddle so it ran very lean. I have the carb. under the engine (check outRichard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). This should act likea totally different engine now. I'll copy the manual for you to.Regards,Dom. Bellissimo________________________________________________________________________________
Patrick,Well I'm still experimenting, I guess. I've just rebuilt the engine over theweekend. The total process took 5 days, I got the cyl. deglazed only. Keptthem stock. However I opened the clearence mor like an aircraft engine. Myautomachine shop recommended an extra thous. clearance (to 2.5 thous.). Allpistons however were replaced (forged) The reason I had to rebuild is that Idetonated a piston. Try not to do that. I found my stromberg carb(NA-S3a1had the set up wrong. The float would pre-maturely shut off theneddle so it ran very lean. I have the carb. under the engine (check outRichard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). This should act likea totally different engine now. I'll copy the manual for you to.Regards,Dom. Bellissimo________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: Mike Bell
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> > Patrick,snip> Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). Could you pin it down a little closer for me?I found this list by snooping around on Richard's finesite, but I don't recall seeing any 'vair installationphotos there.Thanks again,Pat________________________________________________________________________________
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> > Patrick,snip> Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). Could you pin it down a little closer for me?I found this list by snooping around on Richard's finesite, but I don't recall seeing any 'vair installationphotos there.Thanks again,Pat________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Patrick Panzera
Pat,I think you click on the photo, click on images, scroll down to my Name,open the window, click on the picture you want to view.Is that right Richard??DomenicP.S. Richard... have you received the manual yet?? ----------________________________________________________________________________________
Pat,I think you click on the photo, click on images, scroll down to my Name,open the window, click on the picture you want to view.Is that right Richard??DomenicP.S. Richard... have you received the manual yet?? ----------________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: FW: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By:> Patrick Panzera
Got the manual, yes, thanks! It's going to take me a year and a day toscan and convert it to html, tho... Lots of good stuff there!> P.S. Richard... have you received the manual yet??> > ----------
Got the manual, yes, thanks! It's going to take me a year and a day toscan and convert it to html, tho... Lots of good stuff there!> P.S. Richard... have you received the manual yet??> > ----------
Pietenpol-List: Re: FW: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By:> > Patrick Panzera
You might start by simply scanning it and making page images available. Just athought;-)Richard DeCosta wrote:> Got the manual, yes, thanks! It's going to take me a year and a day to> scan and convert it to html, tho... Lots of good stuff there!>> > P.S. Richard... have you received the manual yet??> >> > ----------
You might start by simply scanning it and making page images available. Just athought;-)Richard DeCosta wrote:> Got the manual, yes, thanks! It's going to take me a year and a day to> scan and convert it to html, tho... Lots of good stuff there!>> > P.S. Richard... have you received the manual yet??> >> > ----------
Pietenpol-List: Re: FW: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: Warren Shoun
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> > Pat,> I think you click on the photo, click on images, scroll down to my Name,> open the window, click on the picture you want to view.Great, found it. Had to click on "Multimedia" first, then "Images".I seem to be having a problem viewing the images. I getan error message before it's done loading. Is it me, orare other people having problems too?Click here:http://www.aircamper.org/cgi-bin/urlgo. ... S04.JPGand tell me if it loads completely for you.Thanks!Pat________________________________________________________________________________
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> > Pat,> I think you click on the photo, click on images, scroll down to my Name,> open the window, click on the picture you want to view.Great, found it. Had to click on "Multimedia" first, then "Images".I seem to be having a problem viewing the images. I getan error message before it's done loading. Is it me, orare other people having problems too?Click here:http://www.aircamper.org/cgi-bin/urlgo. ... S04.JPGand tell me if it loads completely for you.Thanks!Pat________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: jmcnarry(at)techplus.com (John McNarry)
Patrick, You either have too many other resources (programs) being used on yourcomputer, or your serve has timed you out and decided that you have just hadenough download. Hit the reload button usually works.Patrick Panzera wrote:> BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> >> > Pat,> > I think you click on the photo, click on images, scroll down to my Name,> > open the window, click on the picture you want to view.>> Great, found it. Had to click on "Multimedia" first, then "Images".>> I seem to be having a problem viewing the images. I get> an error message before it's done loading. Is it me, or> are other people having problems too?>> Click here:> http://www.aircamper.org/cgi-bin/urlgo. ... m_AS04.JPG> and tell me if it loads completely for you.>> Thanks!>> Pat________________________________________________________________________________
Patrick, You either have too many other resources (programs) being used on yourcomputer, or your serve has timed you out and decided that you have just hadenough download. Hit the reload button usually works.Patrick Panzera wrote:> BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> >> > Pat,> > I think you click on the photo, click on images, scroll down to my Name,> > open the window, click on the picture you want to view.>> Great, found it. Had to click on "Multimedia" first, then "Images".>> I seem to be having a problem viewing the images. I get> an error message before it's done loading. Is it me, or> are other people having problems too?>> Click here:> http://www.aircamper.org/cgi-bin/urlgo. ... m_AS04.JPG> and tell me if it loads completely for you.>> Thanks!>> Pat________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By:> BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC
Dom;pulled the Piet out yesterday,and tied the tail to a tree via athrust gauge,2 stock carbs(corvair engine)60 inch 3 blade warpdrive,1st runstatic rpm max 2100 and about 250 lbs thrust,adjusted pitch less,then2700rpm with aprox.300lbs thrust ,less pitch again then 3000rpm static andaprox.320 lbs thrust,more teaking to follow.Testing was with Esso premiunauto fuel 92 octane i think,that Vair engine is soooooooooooooosmooooth,and sounds sweet!! Ignition timming was around 25 degrees,hard tohold the light in the prop wash etc! Doug.
Dom;pulled the Piet out yesterday,and tied the tail to a tree via athrust gauge,2 stock carbs(corvair engine)60 inch 3 blade warpdrive,1st runstatic rpm max 2100 and about 250 lbs thrust,adjusted pitch less,then2700rpm with aprox.300lbs thrust ,less pitch again then 3000rpm static andaprox.320 lbs thrust,more teaking to follow.Testing was with Esso premiunauto fuel 92 octane i think,that Vair engine is soooooooooooooosmooooth,and sounds sweet!! Ignition timming was around 25 degrees,hard tohold the light in the prop wash etc! Doug.
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Original Posted By: Doug
Hey Doug,Thats sweet. Thats what I'm looking for. A friend is going to lend me hisWarp Drive for a test. I was going to do that before I popped the # 6 cyl.The engine is now back together. Worked till 12:00PM Both Fri. Sat. to getit done. Sun. I did the Valve lashing. Tonight I pull the Pan and look formelted Alum. ... a little backwards but there was no time to to this before,since there was too much forward momentum in getting the fix in place withother people. I should be able to start it by Thurs. just in time for theweek-end airshow here at Brampton Flying Club. I'm using 100 LL instead ofauto fuel. I'm still afraid of detonation. Brian Kenney a fuel engineer hasrecommended 100LL because of the high compression. We found a problem withthe carb. , it is now fixed. Have a copy of the carb. manual...send me youraddress.Dom. ----------________________________________________________________________________________
Hey Doug,Thats sweet. Thats what I'm looking for. A friend is going to lend me hisWarp Drive for a test. I was going to do that before I popped the # 6 cyl.The engine is now back together. Worked till 12:00PM Both Fri. Sat. to getit done. Sun. I did the Valve lashing. Tonight I pull the Pan and look formelted Alum. ... a little backwards but there was no time to to this before,since there was too much forward momentum in getting the fix in place withother people. I should be able to start it by Thurs. just in time for theweek-end airshow here at Brampton Flying Club. I'm using 100 LL instead ofauto fuel. I'm still afraid of detonation. Brian Kenney a fuel engineer hasrecommended 100LL because of the high compression. We found a problem withthe carb. , it is now fixed. Have a copy of the carb. manual...send me youraddress.Dom. ----------________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: FW: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Warren Shoun wrote:> > Patrick,> You either have too many other resources (programs) being used on your> computer, or your serve has timed you out and decided that you have just had> enough download. Hit the reload button usually works.What ever the problem is, it's related to my work computer.I was able to view all the photos at home last night on my familycomputer.Excellent photo documentation. Thanks.I'll be putting a Corvair page on my website and I would like yourpermission to place your photos there. You'll recieve full creditif you allow me to do so.Pat________________________________________________________________________________
Warren Shoun wrote:> > Patrick,> You either have too many other resources (programs) being used on your> computer, or your serve has timed you out and decided that you have just had> enough download. Hit the reload button usually works.What ever the problem is, it's related to my work computer.I was able to view all the photos at home last night on my familycomputer.Excellent photo documentation. Thanks.I'll be putting a Corvair page on my website and I would like yourpermission to place your photos there. You'll recieve full creditif you allow me to do so.Pat________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By:> BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC
Hope it works out ok,my address is PO. box 171 Alix Alberta TOC OBO.Look forward to hearing your results. Doug
Hope it works out ok,my address is PO. box 171 Alix Alberta TOC OBO.Look forward to hearing your results. Doug
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Original Posted By: Duane
Thanks Dom, your check is in the mail.Duane,Have you got an Article (1/4 inch thick by R.G. Huggins??? If not I'll sendyou a copy of "The Corvair Experimental Aircraft Engine" Technical Manualfor a couple of bucks for mail. My address is 34 Westhumber Blvd. TorontoOntario, M9W 3M6.That goes for any one else that wants one.Dom. Bellissimo________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks Dom, your check is in the mail.Duane,Have you got an Article (1/4 inch thick by R.G. Huggins??? If not I'll sendyou a copy of "The Corvair Experimental Aircraft Engine" Technical Manualfor a couple of bucks for mail. My address is 34 Westhumber Blvd. TorontoOntario, M9W 3M6.That goes for any one else that wants one.Dom. Bellissimo________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: Matthew VanDervort
Hi Chuck - For what it's worth: NX899KP, "Fat Bottomed Girl," is powered by a Corvairengine, was first flown 9/09, and now has 180 hours on her. Between 9/09and now, the airplane was hangared three hours away for 6 months, and I'vebeen away at school for 5 months. SO, I fly her an average of 15 hours a monthwhen I'm home. Those hours include the 2400 mile trip from Austin to Brodhead/Oshkoshand back. Out of the handful of challenges on that trip, the enginewas not one of them. Now, I do aviation risk management on a daily basis, muchas you have. My entire flight, all 2400 miles, was flown over the midwestwith one huge forced landing area the whole way. Jack Phillips has darn finepoints about terrain. Last time we flew I noticed a power drop. I mentioned that here when it happened.I took the heads off last time I was home and found a damaged valve. I pulledthe other head and found a valve that looked rough on that side as well.I had those heads done at a local car machine shop about 12 years ago. We didnot have the stable of talent to do that work then that we do now. Roy Sarafinski(spelling?) has the heads and will re-work them to the current standard.I'm also taking the opportunity to install a Weseman 5th bearing. There havebeen enough problems with cranks that I passed my personal level of comfortand have decided to opt for the additional support for the crankshaft. I feelthat the nitrided crank is probably adequate, but I'd like to go beyond adequate.Seems to me the 5th bearing gives more tolerance for unusual loads onthe crank.I've come to the conclusion that I'll have to spend a minimum of ~$7000 for anyaircraft engine. The head work and the 5th bearing puts me a little below that,I think. My tune-ups and rebuilds are pretty cheap, though.I'll let everyone know how the repair goes.Kevin--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Conversion
Hi Chuck - For what it's worth: NX899KP, "Fat Bottomed Girl," is powered by a Corvairengine, was first flown 9/09, and now has 180 hours on her. Between 9/09and now, the airplane was hangared three hours away for 6 months, and I'vebeen away at school for 5 months. SO, I fly her an average of 15 hours a monthwhen I'm home. Those hours include the 2400 mile trip from Austin to Brodhead/Oshkoshand back. Out of the handful of challenges on that trip, the enginewas not one of them. Now, I do aviation risk management on a daily basis, muchas you have. My entire flight, all 2400 miles, was flown over the midwestwith one huge forced landing area the whole way. Jack Phillips has darn finepoints about terrain. Last time we flew I noticed a power drop. I mentioned that here when it happened.I took the heads off last time I was home and found a damaged valve. I pulledthe other head and found a valve that looked rough on that side as well.I had those heads done at a local car machine shop about 12 years ago. We didnot have the stable of talent to do that work then that we do now. Roy Sarafinski(spelling?) has the heads and will re-work them to the current standard.I'm also taking the opportunity to install a Weseman 5th bearing. There havebeen enough problems with cranks that I passed my personal level of comfortand have decided to opt for the additional support for the crankshaft. I feelthat the nitrided crank is probably adequate, but I'd like to go beyond adequate.Seems to me the 5th bearing gives more tolerance for unusual loads onthe crank.I've come to the conclusion that I'll have to spend a minimum of ~$7000 for anyaircraft engine. The head work and the 5th bearing puts me a little below that,I think. My tune-ups and rebuilds are pretty cheap, though.I'll let everyone know how the repair goes.Kevin--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2011, at 10:18 PM, "kevinpurtee" wrote:> > Hi Chuck - For what it's worth: NX899KP, "Fat Bottomed Girl," is powered by aCorvair engine, was first flown 9/09, and now has 180 hours on her. Between9/09 and now, the airplane was hangared three hours away for 6 months, and I'vebeen away at school for 5 months. SO, I fly her an average of 15 hours a monthwhen I'm home. Those hours include the 2400 mile trip from Austin to Brodhead/Oshkoshand back. Out of the handful of challenges on that trip, the enginewas not one of them. Now, I do aviation risk management on a daily basis,much as you have. My entire flight, all 2400 miles, was flown over the midwestwith one huge forced landing area the whole way. Jack Phillips has darn finepoints about terrain. > > Last time we flew I noticed a power drop. I mentioned that here when it happened.I took the heads off last time I was home and found a damaged valve. Ipulled the other head and found a valve that looked rough on that side as well.I had those heads done at a local car machine shop about 12 years ago. Wedid not have the stable of talent to do that work then that we do now. Roy Sarafinski(spelling?) has the heads and will re-work them to the current standard.I'm also taking the opportunity to install a Weseman 5th bearing. Therehave been enough problems with cranks that I passed my personal level of comfortand have decided to opt for the additional support for the crankshaft. Ifeel that the nitrided crank is probably adequate, but I'd like to go beyond adequate.Seems to me the 5th bearing gives more tolerance for unusual loads onthe crank.> > I've come to the conclusion that I'll have to spend a minimum of ~$7000 for anyaircraft engine. The head work and the 5th bearing puts me a little belowthat, I think. My tune-ups and rebuilds are pretty cheap, though.> > I'll let everyone know how the repair goes.> > Kevin> > --------> Kevin "Axel" Purtee> NX899KP> Austin/Georgetown, TX> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 129#333129> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2011, at 10:18 PM, "kevinpurtee" wrote:> > Hi Chuck - For what it's worth: NX899KP, "Fat Bottomed Girl," is powered by aCorvair engine, was first flown 9/09, and now has 180 hours on her. Between9/09 and now, the airplane was hangared three hours away for 6 months, and I'vebeen away at school for 5 months. SO, I fly her an average of 15 hours a monthwhen I'm home. Those hours include the 2400 mile trip from Austin to Brodhead/Oshkoshand back. Out of the handful of challenges on that trip, the enginewas not one of them. Now, I do aviation risk management on a daily basis,much as you have. My entire flight, all 2400 miles, was flown over the midwestwith one huge forced landing area the whole way. Jack Phillips has darn finepoints about terrain. > > Last time we flew I noticed a power drop. I mentioned that here when it happened.I took the heads off last time I was home and found a damaged valve. Ipulled the other head and found a valve that looked rough on that side as well.I had those heads done at a local car machine shop about 12 years ago. Wedid not have the stable of talent to do that work then that we do now. Roy Sarafinski(spelling?) has the heads and will re-work them to the current standard.I'm also taking the opportunity to install a Weseman 5th bearing. Therehave been enough problems with cranks that I passed my personal level of comfortand have decided to opt for the additional support for the crankshaft. Ifeel that the nitrided crank is probably adequate, but I'd like to go beyond adequate.Seems to me the 5th bearing gives more tolerance for unusual loads onthe crank.> > I've come to the conclusion that I'll have to spend a minimum of ~$7000 for anyaircraft engine. The head work and the 5th bearing puts me a little belowthat, I think. My tune-ups and rebuilds are pretty cheap, though.> > I'll let everyone know how the repair goes.> > Kevin> > --------> Kevin "Axel" Purtee> NX899KP> Austin/Georgetown, TX> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 129#333129> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: Doug Sheets
Where can I find the best info on Corvair engine conversion.Duane Revennaugh________________________________________________________________________________
Where can I find the best info on Corvair engine conversion.Duane Revennaugh________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:>> Patrick,snip> Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org).Could you pin it down a little closer for me?I found this list by snooping around on Richard's finesite, but I don't recall seeing any 'vair installationphotos there.Thanks again,Pat________________________________________________________________________________
BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:>> Patrick,snip> Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org).Could you pin it down a little closer for me?I found this list by snooping around on Richard's finesite, but I don't recall seeing any 'vair installationphotos there.Thanks again,Pat________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: dean dayton
> > BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> >> > Patrick,> > snip> > > Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org).> > Could you pin it down a little closer for me?> I found this list by snooping around on Richard's fine> site, but I don't recall seeing any 'vair installation> photos there.> > Thanks again,> > Pat> ==="Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just howin the world do you think it got to be this old?" - Jim Tavenner---------------------------------------------------------Visit www.AirCamper.org - A Low 'n Slow Online Community!---------------------------------------------------------My homepage: http://www.AirCamper.org/w3builder_____ ... __________
> > BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> >> > Patrick,> > snip> > > Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org).> > Could you pin it down a little closer for me?> I found this list by snooping around on Richard's fine> site, but I don't recall seeing any 'vair installation> photos there.> > Thanks again,> > Pat> ==="Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just howin the world do you think it got to be this old?" - Jim Tavenner---------------------------------------------------------Visit www.AirCamper.org - A Low 'n Slow Online Community!---------------------------------------------------------My homepage: http://www.AirCamper.org/w3builder_____ ... __________
> > Re: FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: Larry Ragan
> >> > BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> > >> > > Patrick,> >> > snip> >> > > Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org).> >> > Could you pin it down a little closer for me?> > I found this list by snooping around on Richard's fine> > site, but I don't recall seeing any 'vair installation> > photos there.> >> > Thanks again,> >> > Pat> >>> ===> "Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just howin the world do you think it got to be this old?" - Jim Tavenner> ---------------------------------------------------------> Visit www.AirCamper.org - A Low 'n Slow Online Community!> ---------------------------------------------------------> My homepage: http://www.AirCamper.org/w3builder> ________________________________________________________________________________
> >> > BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC wrote:> > >> > > Patrick,> >> > snip> >> > > Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org).> >> > Could you pin it down a little closer for me?> > I found this list by snooping around on Richard's fine> > site, but I don't recall seeing any 'vair installation> > photos there.> >> > Thanks again,> >> > Pat> >>> ===> "Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just howin the world do you think it got to be this old?" - Jim Tavenner> ---------------------------------------------------------> Visit www.AirCamper.org - A Low 'n Slow Online Community!> ---------------------------------------------------------> My homepage: http://www.AirCamper.org/w3builder> ________________________________________________________________________________
> FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: dannymac
> > Patrick,> Well I'm still experimenting, I guess. I've just rebuilt the engine overthe> weekend. The total process took 5 days, I got the cyl. deglazed only.Kept> them stock. However I opened the clearence mor like an aircraft engine.My> automachine shop recommended an extra thous. clearance (to 2.5 thous.).All> pistons however were replaced (forged) The reason I had to rebuild isthat I> detonated a piston. Try not to do that. I found my stromberg carb> (NA-S3a1had the set up wrong. The float would pre-maturely shut off the> neddle so it ran very lean. I have the carb. under the engine (check out> Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). This should actlike> a totally different engine now. I'll copy the manual for you to.> > Regards,> > Dom. Bellissimo> ________________________________________________________________________________
> > Patrick,> Well I'm still experimenting, I guess. I've just rebuilt the engine overthe> weekend. The total process took 5 days, I got the cyl. deglazed only.Kept> them stock. However I opened the clearence mor like an aircraft engine.My> automachine shop recommended an extra thous. clearance (to 2.5 thous.).All> pistons however were replaced (forged) The reason I had to rebuild isthat I> detonated a piston. Try not to do that. I found my stromberg carb> (NA-S3a1had the set up wrong. The float would pre-maturely shut off the> neddle so it ran very lean. I have the carb. under the engine (check out> Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). This should actlike> a totally different engine now. I'll copy the manual for you to.> > Regards,> > Dom. Bellissimo> ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By:> BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC
Dom;pulled the Piet out yesterday,and tied the tail to a tree via a thrustgauge,2 stock carbs(corvair engine)60 inch 3 blade warpdrive,1st run staticrpm max 2100 and about 250 lbs thrust,adjusted pitch less,then 2700rpm withaprox.300lbs thrust ,less pitch again then 3000rpm static and aprox.320 lbsthrust,more teaking to follow.Testing was with Esso premiun auto fuel 92octane i think,that Vair engine is soooooooooooooo smooooth,and soundssweet!! Ignition timming was around 25 degrees,hard to hold the light inthe prop wash etc! Doug. ----------
Dom;pulled the Piet out yesterday,and tied the tail to a tree via a thrustgauge,2 stock carbs(corvair engine)60 inch 3 blade warpdrive,1st run staticrpm max 2100 and about 250 lbs thrust,adjusted pitch less,then 2700rpm withaprox.300lbs thrust ,less pitch again then 3000rpm static and aprox.320 lbsthrust,more teaking to follow.Testing was with Esso premiun auto fuel 92octane i think,that Vair engine is soooooooooooooo smooooth,and soundssweet!! Ignition timming was around 25 degrees,hard to hold the light inthe prop wash etc! Doug. ----------
> FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: "BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC"
>> Patrick,> Well I'm still experimenting, I guess. I've just rebuilt the engine overthe> weekend. The total process took 5 days, I got the cyl. deglazed only. Kept> them stock. However I opened the clearence mor like an aircraft engine. My> automachine shop recommended an extra thous. clearance (to 2.5 thous.).All> pistons however were replaced (forged) The reason I had to rebuild is thatI> detonated a piston. Try not to do that. I found my stromberg carb> (NA-S3a1had the set up wrong. The float would pre-maturely shut off the> neddle so it ran very lean. I have the carb. under the engine (check out> Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). This should actlike> a totally different engine now. I'll copy the manual for you to.>> Regards,>> Dom. Bellissimo>________________________________________________________________________________
>> Patrick,> Well I'm still experimenting, I guess. I've just rebuilt the engine overthe> weekend. The total process took 5 days, I got the cyl. deglazed only. Kept> them stock. However I opened the clearence mor like an aircraft engine. My> automachine shop recommended an extra thous. clearance (to 2.5 thous.).All> pistons however were replaced (forged) The reason I had to rebuild is thatI> detonated a piston. Try not to do that. I found my stromberg carb> (NA-S3a1had the set up wrong. The float would pre-maturely shut off the> neddle so it ran very lean. I have the carb. under the engine (check out> Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). This should actlike> a totally different engine now. I'll copy the manual for you to.>> Regards,>> Dom. Bellissimo>________________________________________________________________________________
> FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By:> Doug
> > Hey Doug,> Thats sweet. Thats what I'm looking for. A friend is going to lend me his> Warp Drive for a test. I was going to do that before I popped the # 6cyl.> The engine is now back together. Worked till 12:00PM Both Fri. Sat. toget> it done. Sun. I did the Valve lashing. Tonight I pull the Pan and lookfor> melted Alum. ... a little backwards but there was no time to to thisbefore,> since there was too much forward momentum in getting the fix in placewith> other people. I should be able to start it by Thurs. just in time for the> week-end airshow here at Brampton Flying Club. I'm using 100 LL insteadof> auto fuel. I'm still afraid of detonation. Brian Kenney a fuel engineerhas> recommended 100LL because of the high compression. We found a problemwith> the carb. , it is now fixed. Have a copy of the carb. manual...send meyour> address.> Dom.> ----------
> > Hey Doug,> Thats sweet. Thats what I'm looking for. A friend is going to lend me his> Warp Drive for a test. I was going to do that before I popped the # 6cyl.> The engine is now back together. Worked till 12:00PM Both Fri. Sat. toget> it done. Sun. I did the Valve lashing. Tonight I pull the Pan and lookfor> melted Alum. ... a little backwards but there was no time to to thisbefore,> since there was too much forward momentum in getting the fix in placewith> other people. I should be able to start it by Thurs. just in time for the> week-end airshow here at Brampton Flying Club. I'm using 100 LL insteadof> auto fuel. I'm still afraid of detonation. Brian Kenney a fuel engineerhas> recommended 100LL because of the high compression. We found a problemwith> the carb. , it is now fixed. Have a copy of the carb. manual...send meyour> address.> Dom.> ----------
> Re: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By:> > BELLISSIMO, DOMENIC
> > Dom;pulled the Piet out yesterday,and tied the tail to a tree via athrust> gauge,2 stock carbs(corvair engine)60 inch 3 blade warpdrive,1st runstatic> rpm max 2100 and about 250 lbs thrust,adjusted pitch less,then 2700rpmwith> aprox.300lbs thrust ,less pitch again then 3000rpm static and aprox.320lbs> thrust,more teaking to follow.Testing was with Esso premiun auto fuel 92> octane i think,that Vair engine is soooooooooooooo smooooth,and sounds> sweet!! Ignition timming was around 25 degrees,hard to hold the light in> the prop wash etc!> Doug.> > ----------
> > Dom;pulled the Piet out yesterday,and tied the tail to a tree via athrust> gauge,2 stock carbs(corvair engine)60 inch 3 blade warpdrive,1st runstatic> rpm max 2100 and about 250 lbs thrust,adjusted pitch less,then 2700rpmwith> aprox.300lbs thrust ,less pitch again then 3000rpm static and aprox.320lbs> thrust,more teaking to follow.Testing was with Esso premiun auto fuel 92> octane i think,that Vair engine is soooooooooooooo smooooth,and sounds> sweet!! Ignition timming was around 25 degrees,hard to hold the light in> the prop wash etc!> Doug.> > ----------
> > FW: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: Duane
> >> > Patrick,> > Well I'm still experimenting, I guess. I've just rebuilt the engineover> the> > weekend. The total process took 5 days, I got the cyl. deglazed only.Kept> > them stock. However I opened the clearence mor like an aircraft engine.My> > automachine shop recommended an extra thous. clearance (to 2.5 thous.).> All> > pistons however were replaced (forged) The reason I had to rebuild isthat> I> > detonated a piston. Try not to do that. I found my stromberg carb> > (NA-S3a1had the set up wrong. The float would pre-maturely shut off the> > neddle so it ran very lean. I have the carb. under the engine (checkout> > Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). This should act> like> > a totally different engine now. I'll copy the manual for you to.> >> > Regards,> >> > Dom. Bellissimo> >> ________________________________________________________________________________
> >> > Patrick,> > Well I'm still experimenting, I guess. I've just rebuilt the engineover> the> > weekend. The total process took 5 days, I got the cyl. deglazed only.Kept> > them stock. However I opened the clearence mor like an aircraft engine.My> > automachine shop recommended an extra thous. clearance (to 2.5 thous.).> All> > pistons however were replaced (forged) The reason I had to rebuild isthat> I> > detonated a piston. Try not to do that. I found my stromberg carb> > (NA-S3a1had the set up wrong. The float would pre-maturely shut off the> > neddle so it ran very lean. I have the carb. under the engine (checkout> > Richard's site I have photo's there www.aircamper.org). This should act> like> > a totally different engine now. I'll copy the manual for you to.> >> > Regards,> >> > Dom. Bellissimo> >> ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Corvair Conversion
Original Posted By: Steve W
Where can I find the best info on Corvair engine conversion.________________________________________________________________________________
Where can I find the best info on Corvair engine conversion.________________________________________________________________________________