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Original Posted By: lpasley
Can anyone advise as to a fair price for a 1965 Corvair engine. I havelocated one that has not run for at least two years and is still in thecar. What should I look for in a Corvair engine. Thanks in advance and may you be blessed with a tailwind.________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair

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Original Posted By: mboynton(at)excite.com
I paid $50 each for two Corvair engines a few years ago. I think up to about$200 is about average.William KouckyTraverse City, MI________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Corvair

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Original Posted By: RDeets(at)aol.com
Is there anyone on the list which is actually flying the Corvair,or is there someone in the Central Cal (or Southern Cal) areathat you may know of, who I could contact and perhaps visit?Thanks!Pat________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair

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Original Posted By: "M. E. Asher"
There's a real nice corvair powered Piet built an flown by Allen Bergren. I know he is in calif. but I don't have the info in front of me I'll try to did it up and post later.Craig Aho________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By:> CAho878935(at)aol.com
Received a call from Joe Vanes at 604 487 4203,at Powel River B.C. CANADAabout 2 weeks ago,he is a corvair piet driver. CF-QGA He is very happywith his vair engined Piet,he is not on the net,was built in the 70's ,ithink he said.
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Alan moved to Arizona. Ron Lebfrom________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Corvair

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Original Posted By: "Gary McNeel, Jr."
Woohoo! I just bought my engine. A Corvair. 1964 - 164 cu.in. 110hp. Infiarly good condition. Am going to start the conversion soon. Ican't wait to tear into it and get it going.DJ Veghwww.raptoronline.comThis email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by Half Price Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more information on an anti-virus email solution, visit .________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:41:37 -0500
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Original Posted By: "Gary McNeel, Jr."
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$150 ... Just started tearing into it tonight... Overall not bad shape!DJ-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "walter evans"
Okay, here's my two cents on what I did over the weekend. Joined the "knuckle buster" club by de-flashing and cleaning up my Corvair's heads in preparation to a valve job. The head castings are quite rough on the Corvair engine and a few of the fins were bent on mine, so I took drill, files, Dremel, and anything else I had that was abrasive and sat down with some music and a couple of hours and cleaned 'em up. Still need to chase all the threads on tapped holes and studs, and finish the last of the minor degreasing and cleanup, then it's off to the machine shop for a valve job.The air passages between the fins are amazingly rough as they come from the factory, and cleaning things up makes the heads much more appealing. Of course, a guy can take it to extremes... as Pat Panzera has done on his showpiece Corvair (the "poster child" engine at http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRA ... d_145.html). Pat likes to be able to see his reflection in everything he looks at under the cowling ;o)PS- I've had a set of the "Bullet Bits" that Chris refers to, for at least 10 years. They are great; they are much less prone to skipping and walking, and do a nice job.PPS- I'm on the digest of this list, and far prefer it to continuous posts. "To each his own", eh?Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXhttp://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Corvair

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Original Posted By: "gcardinal"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: CorvairGene,I've still have both Corvair cases. I've been looking around on the internet and I've came to the conclusion that Continentals aren't that much more expensive than a Corvair. I haven't purchased one just yet. I'm in this project with my father-in-law who is leaning to the Continental. It will help speed up the project. I will build a Corvair at some point. doesn't look like I'll be seeing ya at Frasca. We're trying to get moved into our new home.Scott Robison________________________________________________________________________________
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> Pietenpol-List: Corvair

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Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: CorvairScott, I have an opportunity to purchase a "second" 140hp 1965 Corvair, from the sameguy that gave me the 110hp I have on my Grega now. I think it will be a goodinvestment either way. I am purchasing the new "internals" to re-build myengine this winter. I went to Mid America VW show a couple weeks ago in Effingham and watched someVW engines go for 1K to 1.2K, I have a good 1600 cc that I think I will takenext year and see if I can get $1500. for it. I am installing the hydralic brakes (front and rear) and the rudder pedals thisweek end in my Grega.Did I tell you I went to Mexico, MO a few weeks back. WW was there to pick uphis 701 and put on a "talk show" there at the Zenith hanger. They flew their601 and a couple of KR's. Maybe I will see you at Brodhead in July. Gene, ps enjoy the moving! (I have informed my 3 daughters that I am getting tooold for that stuff!)-----Original Message----->From: Robison Family >Sent: Jun 17, 2006 10:52 PM>To: Pietenpol-List Digest Server >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair>>Gene,>>I've still have both Corvair cases. I've been looking around on the internetand I've came to the conclusion that Continentals aren't that much more expensivethan a Corvair. I haven't purchased one just yet. I'm in this project withmy father-in-law who is leaning to the Continental. It will help speed upthe project. I will build a Corvair at some point. doesn't look like I'll beseeing ya at Frasca. We're trying to get moved into our new home.>>Scott Robison>________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Graham Hansen"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: CorvairInteresting, I have been planning on going with a Corvair also (have a coreengine disassembled in my garage). But since I don't have an uncle with amachine shop to make the parts for me I have figured the cost for parts andmachine work alone around $5500 and thats if I haven't forgotten anything(which I probably have). I have found used O-200s with 400 - 800 hours onthem for $7000 - $8000 supposedly ready to run (I need the 100hp because ofmy 7000-10000 ft airport density altitude). Was thinking that resale valueon a Continental would be good also.I know that their are a lot of risks with a used engine but with my limitedknowledge of engine building their are risks with the Corvair also. Maybeyou guys and some people I talk to at Broadhead and Airventure next monthwill help me decide.Rick H.On 6/17/06, Robison Family wrote:>> Gene,>> I've still have both Corvair cases. I've been looking around on the> internet and I've came to the conclusion that Continentals aren't that much> more expensive than a Corvair. I haven't purchased one just yet. I'm in> this project with my father-in-law who is leaning to the Continental. It> will help speed up the project. I will build a Corvair at some point.> doesn't look like I'll be seeing ya at Frasca. We're trying to get moved> into our new home.>> Scott Robison>>-- Rick Holland"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jack,Your self-imposed 30-day moratorium on Corvair bashing appears to be over.You offered this to me as a symbol of your appreciation for receiving sometubing for your RV that I had as extra. You again prove yourself to be anHonorable and Fair Minded Man! (not that that was ever in question)A couple times you have expressed your reasons for dissatisfaction with theCorvair Movement...everyone is entitled to an opinion. Let's assume thatCorvair could rise above such prejudice with pure success...just as flyingwent from 'dare devil' to pure fun. Being fare-minded, if Corvair powereda/c, with 5th bearing, could accumulate 1,000,000 hours free of crankbreakage, would you concede that they are a viable engine? I'm hoping youwould say, 'Yes', as any other response would be contrary to proven success.The point being, it would be possible to get you, and any other like-mindedindividual, to change his opinion. Have you ever had the pleasure of attending a William Wynn Corvair College?Or meeting him at events like SNF or Oshkosh? Corvair Colleges are free,two-day events (weekends), held several times per year around the country,with one coming up soon in your neighborhood! Being a Fair Minded Man, wouldyou avail yourself the opportunity to see why the Corvair should not bejudged based on misfortunes of a young man's ill-fated date?Just wondering...Gary-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Here is a reply from William Wynn concerning existing Corvair powered a/c:"The high number that comes to mind is Tom Browns Pietenpol, finished in1980 that has been flying since without any engine disassembly. It has about1,450 hours. Part of what is impressive about this is the fact it predatesARP rod bolts, stainless valves, 5th bearings, nitrided cranks and it mayvery well have cast pistons.The engines output in traditional Bernard Pietenpol form has a power outputof 70HP or so. Tom told me that he did not change the points in thedistributor for the first 19 years, (although he did clean them up from timeto time)Engine built to our current stands are not only more powerful, but theyshould last at least as long even at higher output per cubic inch. Thisengine was assembled with care and operated intelligently. The timing wasset with a light; it was never allowed to detonate; it has an appropriateprop that doesn't lug the engine. His conversion is a clone of the oneBernard pioneered and debugged. He was not experimenting with new andunknown ideas. All food for thought.."1450 hours is pretty darn close to 1500. Be prepared to ".consider them asomewhat adequate aircraft engine.".BTW.Jack, this year at Brodhead, you really should ask WW for some cool aid.It's good stuff!Gary-----Original Message-----
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One squirrel does not a stew makeJack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC _____
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I think, during their famous march, Ethan Allen and Benedict Arnold wouldhave been happy with a one-squirrel stew.but that's being argumentative.So..Let us not argue.Let us be fair.How many squirrels does it take to makea stew? 2? 3? 1,000? Gary
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Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
gboothe5(at)comcast.net wrote:> So.Let us not argueLet us be fairHow many squirrels does it take to make a stew?2? 3? 1,000? > > GaryMy guess would be... 1500. [Laughing]--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Depends on how many are eating the stew, or drinking the Kool-Aid.For myself, if making a stew to serve 4 people, I've always figured on about4 or 5 squirrels per person. Of course, you can substitute chicken but thatdefeats the purpose of Squirrel Stew, which is to give you a reason to getrid of squirrels.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC _____
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Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "Gboothe5"
pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net wrote:> Nuthin' there, MarkAww crap... you must be using the email list as an email list... ha! I think itshows on the web.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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I couldn't see it either....thought you were speechless.Gary-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: stromberg carbTHE STROMBERG THROTTLE LEVER ACCORDING TO STROMBERG SITTING IN PLANE IS LOCATED ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHEN THE LEVER IS PUSHED FORWARD IT IS FULL THROTTLE. THAT IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION.TED STONECORVAIR PIET BUILDER________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Corvair
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Original Posted By: "Gboothe5"
really? Well that is weird... I can see it just fine in the web thread. Nothing important... just the kool-aid guy saying "Oh Yeah!"--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Sorry I missed that! That wasn't the kool-aid guy....that was me.Gary-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
That IS weird. The image of the Kool-Aid guy came through fine on the Forum.But a couple of days ago, Gary's post about Ivan and the Flitzer List didn't haveany image attached, but the message referred to a photo.http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t229And Jack's post about What a Day to Fly had a file attached that wouldn't open(winmail.dat), yet Gary was able to view it.http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ????BCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Original Posted By: "Gboothe5"
Bill Church wrote:> And Jack's post about What a Day to Fly had a file attached that wouldn't open(winmail.dat), yet Gary was able to view it.> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t230> Yep, same here... I couldn't see that one either.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Pietenpol-List: Leading Edge

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Original Posted By: Darrel Jones
Lest anyone think that all I do is defend the Corvair Movement from theKracken=85A couple weeks ago I was visiting Chris Tracy and noticed that he had used ahalf-round bit to rabbit out the back side of his leading edges. He madematching male pieces which he located on the front of the ribs, perfectlylocating the leading edges, providing extra glue surface, lightening thepiece of wood (Poplar!!), and generally impressing the heck out of me. Atthe time, I thought that was way too much unnecessary work, but my leadingedges went together nicely and I landed on an easy method to do somethingsimilar=85Mine have a square rabbit, 3/8=94 x =BD=94, that has a corresponding locator gluedto the ribs. I don=92t know how Chris located his pieces, but mine are donewith one long piece, epoxied to all the ribs at once, then cut out one byone with a back saw (that=92s what I have been doing today, in between counterattacks on the Kracken). Oh=85did I say=85my leading edges are Poplar, too=85Gary BootheGo Corvair________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:55:59 -0700
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Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
Nicely done, Gary! I like how it positively locates the leading edge material,and looks like it's fairly easy to do.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Pietenpol fully assembled and has been flying. For sale less firewall forward.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Project for sale
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> > There's a real nice corvair powered Piet built an flown by Allen Bergren.I > know he is in calif. but I don't have the info in front of me I'll try todid > it up and post later.> > Craig Aho________________________________________________________________________________
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