Original Posted By: Gary Gower
Hi Builders, I have been working in conjunction with Timothy Kreider, AircraftSpruce to come up with a 'Official' qualified hardwood list for thePietenpol. The list they currently use is for the GN-1 and they have triedto adapt this list to the Piet. I have made them aware of the differentversions of Piets and that this list will be for the 'extended' or 'corvair'Pietenpol. What I'd like to have from each of you is to look over this listbelow and email me your vote for or against the list and correctionsthereof. This list 'WILL' go into AS/S as the official "Extended or Corvair(over 65hp) Pietenpol". There are major differences with this list and theone they hold currently, as a matter of fact they disclaim their currentlist as a Pietenpol. This list is in a Excel format and is ready to use, just plug in your pricesper foot and it will calculate and sub total and grand total. I currentlyhave this for anyone who wants to email me and current prices from AS/S aswell. Just let me know which one you want when you request it.Pietenpol Aircamper(extended version for 110hp )Qty Dimensions Length Ft Total Ft. 4.00 1x1x15 60 1.00 1x1x6 6 1.00 1x1x5 5 71 $0.00 2.00 7/8x1x8 16 2.00 7/8x1x6 12 28 $0.00 4.00 3/4x1x8 32 1.00 3/4x1x3 3 35 $0.00 5.00 1/2x1x6 30 30 $0.00 1.00 5/8x1x5 5 5 $0.00 2.00 3/4x2x2 4 4 $0.00 1.00 3/4x3/4x2 2 2 $0.00 $0.00 Fuselage 2.00 1x1x8 16 2.00 1x1x5 10 1.00 1x1x7 7 1.00 1x1x6 6 39 $0.00 4.00 3/4x1x8 32 32 $0.00 2.00 3/4x1/2x5 10 10 $0.00 1.00 5/8x1 1/4x9 9 9 $0.00 7.00 3/16x1/2x6 42 7.00 3/16x1/2x4 28 70 $0.00 $0.00 Tail Group 4.00 1x4 3/4x14 56 56 $0.00 2.00 1x4 3/4x3 6 6 $0.00 4.00 1/2x3x7 28 28 $0.00 2.00 1/2x1 1/2x7 14 14 $0.00 4.00 3/4x3/4x5 20 20 $0.00 4.00 1/2x1/2x7 28 28 $0.00 1.00 1/4x1/2x500 500 500 $0.00 `$0.00 Wing Grand Total$0.00 If you have any questions or comments email me at tdmorgan(at)qg.com ormrfixit(at)accessunited.comTerry Morgan,Thomaston, Georgiaready to order wood when you guys say so...________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:00:02 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Extended Air Camper Hardwood List
Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Extended Air Camper Hardwood List
Original Posted By: "Morgan, Terry"
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Extended Air Camper Hardwood List
Original Posted By: walter evans [mailto:wbeevans(at)worldnet.att.net]
Mr. Walt, you did give me your list. I requested a list from AS as well. Thetwo lists were NOT even close, so it kinda scared me, seemed something waswrong. I spent about 36 hours going over their list along with your list andI come up with the difference that I sent out. Your list was about a closeas anyone has gotten. I therefore got in contact with Timothy Kreider fromAircraft Spruce-East, (I only live 20 miles from them) and inquired as whythe huge difference. Mr. Timothy and his team were and have been very eagerto help. I suggested they get a 'Official' wood list and I thought if anyonewould know it, you guys would. They encouraged me to do so and they wouldmake it official. They are using bits and pieces of different list now. I amasking you and the rest of the guys to put your stamp on this, if it is goodenough for us, then AS will use this list as a official fill list. Pleasemake any corrections necessary and let me know. One thing that bothered meto start with was AS's list had 1x5.75 and 1x4.75 spars and that threw me. Itold them the wood list I am working on will be for the Extended PietenpolAir Camper and that there were other versions as well.TerryThomaston, Ga-----Original Message-----
Mr. Walt, you did give me your list. I requested a list from AS as well. Thetwo lists were NOT even close, so it kinda scared me, seemed something waswrong. I spent about 36 hours going over their list along with your list andI come up with the difference that I sent out. Your list was about a closeas anyone has gotten. I therefore got in contact with Timothy Kreider fromAircraft Spruce-East, (I only live 20 miles from them) and inquired as whythe huge difference. Mr. Timothy and his team were and have been very eagerto help. I suggested they get a 'Official' wood list and I thought if anyonewould know it, you guys would. They encouraged me to do so and they wouldmake it official. They are using bits and pieces of different list now. I amasking you and the rest of the guys to put your stamp on this, if it is goodenough for us, then AS will use this list as a official fill list. Pleasemake any corrections necessary and let me know. One thing that bothered meto start with was AS's list had 1x5.75 and 1x4.75 spars and that threw me. Itold them the wood list I am working on will be for the Extended PietenpolAir Camper and that there were other versions as well.TerryThomaston, Ga-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Extended Air Camper Hardwood List
Original Posted By: "Morgan, Terry"
Terry,Great, it sounds like you're on a mission. Good luck. I just figured thatby this time, the wood list wasn't a problem.Now that I've thought more about it, as far as accuracy, keep in mind thatthe list doesn't include things like leading edge, trailing edge, stringersbehind the turtledeck, and the 1/4X1/4 stripping along the edges of thefuselage to fill out the fabric.I just went with the flow on the list for leading edge and trailing edge.Used Mike Cuy's idea on cuts (only I didn't use bannister) from pieces of5/4 clear pine for leading edge. And clear pine 1X2 cut on a diaganal toget both trailing edges. Stringers were ripped from pine also to a 1X1/4. These could be included on the list, but to a greater expense. Just a comment about getting started...for someone who becomeoverwhelmed by a project like this,,,for my first project, I bought a 10"band saw from Home Depot ( Delta brand), This is the mainstay of the wholeproject. Every part of the wood (and aluminum is cut with a wood bladealso) was cut with this.My point is that don't think that you have to aquire a "Bob Vela" workshopbefore you can build a plane.Get a bandsaw for about $130.00, some spruce, and some T-88, and you canbuild 90% of an airplane.That's my inspirational speech for today.waltps really shouldn't call it a hardwood list, spruce is far from hard.---------------------------------------------------------- Original Message -----
Terry,Great, it sounds like you're on a mission. Good luck. I just figured thatby this time, the wood list wasn't a problem.Now that I've thought more about it, as far as accuracy, keep in mind thatthe list doesn't include things like leading edge, trailing edge, stringersbehind the turtledeck, and the 1/4X1/4 stripping along the edges of thefuselage to fill out the fabric.I just went with the flow on the list for leading edge and trailing edge.Used Mike Cuy's idea on cuts (only I didn't use bannister) from pieces of5/4 clear pine for leading edge. And clear pine 1X2 cut on a diaganal toget both trailing edges. Stringers were ripped from pine also to a 1X1/4. These could be included on the list, but to a greater expense. Just a comment about getting started...for someone who becomeoverwhelmed by a project like this,,,for my first project, I bought a 10"band saw from Home Depot ( Delta brand), This is the mainstay of the wholeproject. Every part of the wood (and aluminum is cut with a wood bladealso) was cut with this.My point is that don't think that you have to aquire a "Bob Vela" workshopbefore you can build a plane.Get a bandsaw for about $130.00, some spruce, and some T-88, and you canbuild 90% of an airplane.That's my inspirational speech for today.waltps really shouldn't call it a hardwood list, spruce is far from hard.---------------------------------------------------------- Original Message -----