Original Posted By: "gbloud"
Hey builders! How much T-88 will it take for a Piet? Starting with my ribs first,then tail. I don't want to buy so much the shelf life expires, and I don'twant to buy every month either.Pint , quart, half-gallon?Kent________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
RE: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
A quart kit is about enough to do two sets of ribs. Hope that helps...Steve E.-----Original Message-----
A quart kit is about enough to do two sets of ribs. Hope that helps...Steve E.-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Original Posted By:> Steve Eldredge [mailto:steve(at)byu.edu]
Two sets of ribs, Steve? One set for one airplane is all I care to build.
Then I guess a quart should be enough for the ribs and tail parts. I mightbuy some of that weldwood at HD and check it out. The part I don't like isprecise cuts/joints, high clamp pressure, 24 hours at 70 degrees. My cutsmay not be the best, don't know yet, haven't cut anything but a steaklately. Keeping my garage at 70 degrees overnight for the gluing processrequires a bunch of kerosene for my heater! Maybe I need to build somekind of small hotbox to put the ribs in after gluing. Is that needed? Talking about ribs, the wood list mentions 500 ft of capstrip. Do youspecify a certain length, or take what they send you and just splice stripswhen you need it? Kent> -----Original Message-----
Two sets of ribs, Steve? One set for one airplane is all I care to build.
Then I guess a quart should be enough for the ribs and tail parts. I mightbuy some of that weldwood at HD and check it out. The part I don't like isprecise cuts/joints, high clamp pressure, 24 hours at 70 degrees. My cutsmay not be the best, don't know yet, haven't cut anything but a steaklately. Keeping my garage at 70 degrees overnight for the gluing processrequires a bunch of kerosene for my heater! Maybe I need to build somekind of small hotbox to put the ribs in after gluing. Is that needed? Talking about ribs, the wood list mentions 500 ft of capstrip. Do youspecify a certain length, or take what they send you and just splice stripswhen you need it? Kent> -----Original Message-----> RE: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Original Posted By: "Owen Davies"
Pint doesn't sound like much, but it will keep you busy and do all of the tail and lots of ribs (or all of the ribs and some tail). Should be around $16.95>From: Kent Hallsten > How much T-88 will it take for a Piet? Starting with my ribs >first,>then tail. I don't want to buy so much the shelf life expires, and I don't>want to buy every month either.>>Pint , quart, half-gallon?>>Kent>________________________________________________________________________________
Pint doesn't sound like much, but it will keep you busy and do all of the tail and lots of ribs (or all of the ribs and some tail). Should be around $16.95>From: Kent Hallsten > How much T-88 will it take for a Piet? Starting with my ribs >first,>then tail. I don't want to buy so much the shelf life expires, and I don't>want to buy every month either.>>Pint , quart, half-gallon?>>Kent>________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Original Posted By: john e fay
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Re: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Just my addition to this,,, I basically finished all of the wood work. Justone wing left to cover.I had bought my second Qt. Kit, and thats half gone. That means 1 1/2 qt.kits for the whole plane. ( This is my second project, and nothing everflew off of the first)I think the worst thing to do in using T-88 is to make too much. Thediscussion has been to use plastic cups to mix the glue. Only once did Iever use a cup to mix that much glue at one time. That was when I glued theply sides to the fuse sides. Everything was layed out and marked, and had toput alot of glue on alot of ply with a brush before setting the sides. My opinion on glues are...I only mix T-88 on a saucer, and make two equallines of equal thickness. When you're done , wipe the saucer with a papertowel, and let it dry for the next days ribs.Quantity of glue to buy=one qt kit, and when that gets low, get another.walt----- Original Message -----
Just my addition to this,,, I basically finished all of the wood work. Justone wing left to cover.I had bought my second Qt. Kit, and thats half gone. That means 1 1/2 qt.kits for the whole plane. ( This is my second project, and nothing everflew off of the first)I think the worst thing to do in using T-88 is to make too much. Thediscussion has been to use plastic cups to mix the glue. Only once did Iever use a cup to mix that much glue at one time. That was when I glued theply sides to the fuse sides. Everything was layed out and marked, and had toput alot of glue on alot of ply with a brush before setting the sides. My opinion on glues are...I only mix T-88 on a saucer, and make two equallines of equal thickness. When you're done , wipe the saucer with a papertowel, and let it dry for the next days ribs.Quantity of glue to buy=one qt kit, and when that gets low, get another.walt----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Original Posted By: Kent Hallsten
Boy, there are sure a lot of questions about glue.I went through a quart kit of T-88 on the ribs alone but I think that'sbecause I mixed too much and wasted a little every time. I've got moredixie cups with a popcicle stick stuck in them... My method for mixing isto draw equal circles in the bottom of the cup. It's similar to the equallines method but the cup allows me to still up the stuff "real good" (saidwith Southern Illinois accent). Just make sure the holes cut in the bottlesare the same size.My suggestions:1. Glue is cheap (relative to what it's holding together).2. Don't skimp on the glue.3. Using more glue than you need is much less an evil than using not enoughglue (oh no! the tail just fell off!)4. If you don't have confidence in old glue, use it to fix things on thehoney-do list or throw it away (see #1)Robert HainesMurphysboro, Illinois________________________________________________________________________________
Boy, there are sure a lot of questions about glue.I went through a quart kit of T-88 on the ribs alone but I think that'sbecause I mixed too much and wasted a little every time. I've got moredixie cups with a popcicle stick stuck in them... My method for mixing isto draw equal circles in the bottom of the cup. It's similar to the equallines method but the cup allows me to still up the stuff "real good" (saidwith Southern Illinois accent). Just make sure the holes cut in the bottlesare the same size.My suggestions:1. Glue is cheap (relative to what it's holding together).2. Don't skimp on the glue.3. Using more glue than you need is much less an evil than using not enoughglue (oh no! the tail just fell off!)4. If you don't have confidence in old glue, use it to fix things on thehoney-do list or throw it away (see #1)Robert HainesMurphysboro, Illinois________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Glue quantity to buy
Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
I can agree with that. I bought 4 gallons 25 years ago for a wood sailboat. Sold the boat before I could use it. Have been using it for variousprojects ever since. It still performs the way it did the day I got it.Great stuff.By the way. I have read a lot about how it might not stand up in humidconditions. I don't know where that is coming from. I can't imagine a morehumid climate than here in SW Florida. And I have used the epoxy inlocations that are always under water on my boats. Never had any failures.Ted Brousseau>> According to Kern Hendricks of System Three, the makers of T-88, the shelflife of T-88 is indefinite.________________________________________________________________________________
I can agree with that. I bought 4 gallons 25 years ago for a wood sailboat. Sold the boat before I could use it. Have been using it for variousprojects ever since. It still performs the way it did the day I got it.Great stuff.By the way. I have read a lot about how it might not stand up in humidconditions. I don't know where that is coming from. I can't imagine a morehumid climate than here in SW Florida. And I have used the epoxy inlocations that are always under water on my boats. Never had any failures.Ted Brousseau>> According to Kern Hendricks of System Three, the makers of T-88, the shelflife of T-88 is indefinite.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: spar design
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
"tom richmond" asked->ive been reading about this box spar for awile can anybody tell me>where i can get plans for one or picturesCheck out http://www.flyerworld.com/shenty/ukairc ... yprog2.htm for a picture (not that clear, but you get the idea). Also a good photo of the shoulder harness attach "bracket" for the front cockpit, as used by the UK builders.Oscar ZunigaMedford, Oregonmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
"tom richmond" asked->ive been reading about this box spar for awile can anybody tell me>where i can get plans for one or picturesCheck out http://www.flyerworld.com/shenty/ukairc ... yprog2.htm for a picture (not that clear, but you get the idea). Also a good photo of the shoulder harness attach "bracket" for the front cockpit, as used by the UK builders.Oscar ZunigaMedford, Oregonmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: spar design
Original Posted By: Kent Hallsten
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spar designOscar,Please give me your mailing address once more.Corky in La on the way to the Post Office to mail you something________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spar designOscar,Please give me your mailing address once more.Corky in La on the way to the Post Office to mail you something________________________________________________________________________________