Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Hey everyone...There's a fellow in Miami( someone on the list posted his ad) who took an A-65 off his Taylorcraft because his son nosed it over during a run-up ( supposedly at 800 rpm,s, don't know if that's possible).It was then totally disassembled and everything wrapped up. He has all logs, two cylinders have 100 hours on them and the mags have 100 hours. It has 1100 hours since major overhaul. If the crank and cases check out good would it be worth messing with and what would be a fair price for it. Ed G.MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide ... __________
Pietenpol-List: A-65 basket case
RE: Pietenpol-List: A-65 basket case
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hi Ed,Is he going to have the crankshaft magnafluxed? That would be prudent aftera propstrike.I'll tell you what I paid for mine, not that I got a great deal, but I thinkit is probably about average. I paid $1500 for it, sight unseen, buying itfrom an A&P who told me that when he disassembled it he found it to be in"good shape", with the cylinders not showing much wear. At that time Ididn't have sufficent gages to measure it accurately in my own shop, so whenI got the engine I piled the cylinders, crankshaft, connecting rods, rockerarms and gears into my Cessna 140 and flew the whole lot over to Burlington,NC and took them to Triad Aviation and asked them to inspect the cylinders,gears, and the crankshaft, and overhaul the connecting rods and the rockerarms. After paying the $974, I got all the parts back with nice new "yellowtags" on everything except the cylinders. The cylinders were right at theservice limits and they said by the time they honed them they would be outof spec. El Reno Aviation will rebuild A65 cylinders, but they want about$500 apiece to do it. I decided to bite the bullet and bought brand newMillenium cylinders for $800 apiece, which included new valves, new pistons,new rings, new piston pins and new rocker shafts, so everything in the topend of the engine will be brand new except the rocker arms and theconnecting rods, which I had overhauled, magnafluxed and re-bushed. Thecrankshaft also had to be ground down 0.010" undersized, which is allowable.I still need to buy a new camshaft. The one that came with the engine has abig chunk missing out of the front lobe, and one other lobe is badly worn.So much for "good shape".Anyway, getting your crankshaft inspected will cost you something. A newcrank is probably at least $1,000. If possible, I would have the owner getthe crank magnafluxed or not pay more than $1,000 for the engine if you'vegot to get it inspected yourself.What kind of mags does it have? If it has Slick mags, that would be worthmore than the old Bendix or (yuck!) Eisemann mags. Mine has Eisemanns and Iwould like to swap them out for Slicks. Those Eisemann mags on my engineweigh 5-1/2 lbs apiece! The Slicks are considerably lighter, and workbetter.Hope this helps.Jack -----Original Message-----
Hi Ed,Is he going to have the crankshaft magnafluxed? That would be prudent aftera propstrike.I'll tell you what I paid for mine, not that I got a great deal, but I thinkit is probably about average. I paid $1500 for it, sight unseen, buying itfrom an A&P who told me that when he disassembled it he found it to be in"good shape", with the cylinders not showing much wear. At that time Ididn't have sufficent gages to measure it accurately in my own shop, so whenI got the engine I piled the cylinders, crankshaft, connecting rods, rockerarms and gears into my Cessna 140 and flew the whole lot over to Burlington,NC and took them to Triad Aviation and asked them to inspect the cylinders,gears, and the crankshaft, and overhaul the connecting rods and the rockerarms. After paying the $974, I got all the parts back with nice new "yellowtags" on everything except the cylinders. The cylinders were right at theservice limits and they said by the time they honed them they would be outof spec. El Reno Aviation will rebuild A65 cylinders, but they want about$500 apiece to do it. I decided to bite the bullet and bought brand newMillenium cylinders for $800 apiece, which included new valves, new pistons,new rings, new piston pins and new rocker shafts, so everything in the topend of the engine will be brand new except the rocker arms and theconnecting rods, which I had overhauled, magnafluxed and re-bushed. Thecrankshaft also had to be ground down 0.010" undersized, which is allowable.I still need to buy a new camshaft. The one that came with the engine has abig chunk missing out of the front lobe, and one other lobe is badly worn.So much for "good shape".Anyway, getting your crankshaft inspected will cost you something. A newcrank is probably at least $1,000. If possible, I would have the owner getthe crank magnafluxed or not pay more than $1,000 for the engine if you'vegot to get it inspected yourself.What kind of mags does it have? If it has Slick mags, that would be worthmore than the old Bendix or (yuck!) Eisemann mags. Mine has Eisemanns and Iwould like to swap them out for Slicks. Those Eisemann mags on my engineweigh 5-1/2 lbs apiece! The Slicks are considerably lighter, and workbetter.Hope this helps.Jack -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 basket case
Original Posted By: "B F Dearinger"
Ed,Try to find out whether it was turning a metal prop or a wooden onewhen it nosed over.The crankshaft wouldn't likely be damaged if it was ("was" is the term here) a wooden prop. If it was a metal prop strike, there is a real possibility of damage to the crankshaft and engine.Magnafluxing the shaft, etc. before returning the engine to service is a good idea, regardless.Buying such an engine is a gamble. Let's hope you are lucky.Graham Hansen________________________________________________________________________________
Ed,Try to find out whether it was turning a metal prop or a wooden onewhen it nosed over.The crankshaft wouldn't likely be damaged if it was ("was" is the term here) a wooden prop. If it was a metal prop strike, there is a real possibility of damage to the crankshaft and engine.Magnafluxing the shaft, etc. before returning the engine to service is a good idea, regardless.Buying such an engine is a gamble. Let's hope you are lucky.Graham Hansen________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Lycoming
Original Posted By: "Larry Neal"
Also remember that a 65 lyc has 145 cubic inches and a 65 -66 corvair has164.----- Original Message -----
Also remember that a 65 lyc has 145 cubic inches and a 65 -66 corvair has164.----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: A-65 basket case
Original Posted By: "Steve Eldredge"
Re: Pietenpol-List: A-65 basket case
Original Posted By: Graham Hansen
I'm with the earlier person who responded, I do not think a Taylorcraft willnose over at 800 rpm. I'm not sure you could get a T-Craft over at any RPMunless it was rolling forward.----- Original Message -----
I'm with the earlier person who responded, I do not think a Taylorcraft willnose over at 800 rpm. I'm not sure you could get a T-Craft over at any RPMunless it was rolling forward.----- Original Message -----