Original Posted By: "LAWRENCE WILLIAMS"
Does anyone know if the Superflite dacron will work with the Poly-Fiberprocess?DickG.Ft. Myers, FL________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Covering Materials
RE: Pietenpol-List: New Piet
Original Posted By: "Steve Eldredge"
Yo, listers!The FAA officially told me that I have an airplane this morning. NX899LWexists!!!!I handed in my paperwork last Monday, got a call on Thursday to set the date andthis morning at 10:00 THE MAN showed up. He looked it all over for about 15minutes, said it looked wonderful and that he was envious andsat down with his stack of stuff. The pile of paperwork took over an hour to completeand he was gone. It was that simple. The reason it was thatsimple is because he's done about 400 homebuilts, absolutely KNOWS what he's doing,and doesn't have an ego that gets in the way. Ahh, that all beaurocrats werelike him.Anyway- the projected schedule looks like it's running along pretty well. Stepone was getting the airplane ready. Step two is to get me ready. That's movingalong, too although not as quickly as I want it to. I know, "patience", but mypatience is a little thin now that the Piet's sitting there ready to go andlooking all seductive...... Brodhead looks like a distinct possibility. But gee, that's what I said last year!Later-Larry________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New PietDate: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:14:27 -0600
Yo, listers!The FAA officially told me that I have an airplane this morning. NX899LWexists!!!!I handed in my paperwork last Monday, got a call on Thursday to set the date andthis morning at 10:00 THE MAN showed up. He looked it all over for about 15minutes, said it looked wonderful and that he was envious andsat down with his stack of stuff. The pile of paperwork took over an hour to completeand he was gone. It was that simple. The reason it was thatsimple is because he's done about 400 homebuilts, absolutely KNOWS what he's doing,and doesn't have an ego that gets in the way. Ahh, that all beaurocrats werelike him.Anyway- the projected schedule looks like it's running along pretty well. Stepone was getting the airplane ready. Step two is to get me ready. That's movingalong, too although not as quickly as I want it to. I know, "patience", but mypatience is a little thin now that the Piet's sitting there ready to go andlooking all seductive...... Brodhead looks like a distinct possibility. But gee, that's what I said last year!Later-Larry________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New PietDate: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:14:27 -0600
Re: Pietenpol-List: New Piet
Original Posted By: "Jeffrey Wilcox"
>> Yo, listers!>> The FAA officially told me that I have an airplane this morning. NX899LW> exists!!!!>My most heart-felt CONGRATULATIONS!!!Craig________________________________________________________________________________
>> Yo, listers!>> The FAA officially told me that I have an airplane this morning. NX899LW> exists!!!!>My most heart-felt CONGRATULATIONS!!!Craig________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Covering Materials
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Dick - ANY dacron will work with Polyfiber. Just need the PMA stamp if youare re-covering a store-bought airplane.Craig>> Does anyone know if the Superflite dacron will work with the Poly-Fiber> process?>> DickG.> Ft. Myers, FL________________________________________________________________________________
Dick - ANY dacron will work with Polyfiber. Just need the PMA stamp if youare re-covering a store-bought airplane.Craig>> Does anyone know if the Superflite dacron will work with the Poly-Fiber> process?>> DickG.> Ft. Myers, FL________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: New Piet
Original Posted By: johann
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New PietLarry,We are all happy for you. I would like to know you location in case my Fed man isn't as nice as your Fed man. I can trailer this project anywhere.Corky in La wanting to fly to Brodhead in 03________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New PietLarry,We are all happy for you. I would like to know you location in case my Fed man isn't as nice as your Fed man. I can trailer this project anywhere.Corky in La wanting to fly to Brodhead in 03________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Covering Materials
Original Posted By: "Dave Trainer"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering MaterialsPieters,A long time ago when I was beginning this Piet project I asked this net for advise on necessary materials to include wood, steel, aluminum, and covering materials. I will now say that the response was more than inadequate. I would frequently throw it back trying to figure the costs etc. Well, for what it may be worth to some ole Piet builder out there just beginning, I am listing all the materials I found necessary to cover and paint my Piet. I used the Poly system throughout. For an old style plane the Poly Tone looks OK. I'm such a dude and modern cat that I really like the wet shinny look but I can live with the other. I'm omitting any prices as I can't believe I spent that much money on a few gallons of paint. Depressing a'int it.NX41CCMaterials for covering to include 3 coats each of Brush, Spray and Tone. Practice kit from ASS40 yds 2.7 oz Dacron 72 in wide1 roll rib stitch cord2 rolls reinforcing tape2 rolls 2 in pinked tape1 roll 3 in pinked tape bias1 roll 4 in pinked tape4 Gal Poly Brush2 Gal Poly Spray2 Gal Poly Tone Yellow for Wings and Feathers1 Gal Poly Tone for Fuse3 Gal Reducers (65-75)(8500)(8600)2 Qts Poly TakAll other acrylics and materials bought locallyI hope this little missal may be of some benefit to someone. I know I would have liked this info earlier. However, let me say in all honestly that as I progressed I would just call the 800 number, tell them what I needed, give them my credit card number, use the materials when they arrived. If you keep too much of a count on the cost I assure you that you could take the pleasure out of your hobby.From the south on a beautiful Sat nite with a tall glass of mint julip and my beautiful bride beside me, nothing could be better except a flight in a Piet.Corky in La________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering MaterialsPieters,A long time ago when I was beginning this Piet project I asked this net for advise on necessary materials to include wood, steel, aluminum, and covering materials. I will now say that the response was more than inadequate. I would frequently throw it back trying to figure the costs etc. Well, for what it may be worth to some ole Piet builder out there just beginning, I am listing all the materials I found necessary to cover and paint my Piet. I used the Poly system throughout. For an old style plane the Poly Tone looks OK. I'm such a dude and modern cat that I really like the wet shinny look but I can live with the other. I'm omitting any prices as I can't believe I spent that much money on a few gallons of paint. Depressing a'int it.NX41CCMaterials for covering to include 3 coats each of Brush, Spray and Tone. Practice kit from ASS40 yds 2.7 oz Dacron 72 in wide1 roll rib stitch cord2 rolls reinforcing tape2 rolls 2 in pinked tape1 roll 3 in pinked tape bias1 roll 4 in pinked tape4 Gal Poly Brush2 Gal Poly Spray2 Gal Poly Tone Yellow for Wings and Feathers1 Gal Poly Tone for Fuse3 Gal Reducers (65-75)(8500)(8600)2 Qts Poly TakAll other acrylics and materials bought locallyI hope this little missal may be of some benefit to someone. I know I would have liked this info earlier. However, let me say in all honestly that as I progressed I would just call the 800 number, tell them what I needed, give them my credit card number, use the materials when they arrived. If you keep too much of a count on the cost I assure you that you could take the pleasure out of your hobby.From the south on a beautiful Sat nite with a tall glass of mint julip and my beautiful bride beside me, nothing could be better except a flight in a Piet.Corky in La________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Covering Materials
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Hi Corky,Thanks for the information. I'm just to the point now of needing to orderall the covering supplies and your list should help a lot. I'm like you andprefer the shinier look of Aerothane to PolyTone. I guess pretty soon I'mgoing to have to actually make a decision which one to go with. Did you getall your materials from ASS? I want to use the lighter 1.7 oz fabric, butASS only sells it in 60" widths. Barry Jay advertises it in 70" widths, soI will probably order it from him - I'll talk with them at OSH in a fewweeks.What colors are you using? Mine will be Forest Green fuselage and verticaltail, with Diana Cream wings and horizontal tail.Jack in North CarolinaBuilding up my engine this week - all structure complete except for theengine mount -----Original Message-----Pieters,A long time ago when I was beginning this Piet project I asked this net foradvise on necessary materials to include wood, steel, aluminum, and coveringmaterials. I will now say that the response was more than inadequate. Iwouldfrequently throw it back trying to figure the costs etc. Well, for what itmay be worth to some ole Piet builder out there just beginning, I am listingall the materials I found necessary to cover and paint my Piet. I used thePoly system throughout. For an old style plane the Poly Tone looks OK. I'msuch a dude and modern cat that I really like the wet shinny look but I canlive with the other. I'm omitting any prices as I can't believe I spent thatmuch money on a few gallons of paint. Depressing a'int it.NX41CCMaterials for covering to include 3 coats each of Brush, Spray and Tone. Practice kit from ASS40 yds 2.7 oz Dacron 72 in wide1 roll rib stitch cord2 rolls reinforcing tape2 rolls 2 in pinked tape1 roll 3 in pinked tape bias1 roll 4 in pinked tape4 Gal Poly Brush2 Gal Poly Spray2 Gal Poly Tone Yellow for Wings and Feathers1 Gal Poly Tone for Fuse3 Gal Reducers (65-75)(8500)(8600)2 Qts Poly TakAll other acrylics and materials bought locallyI hope this little missal may be of some benefit to someone. I know I wouldhave liked this info earlier. However, let me say in all honestly that as Iprogressed I would just call the 800 number, tell them what I needed, givethem my credit card number, use the materials when they arrived. If you keeptoo much of a count on the cost I assure you that you could take thepleasureout of your hobby.From the south on a beautiful Sat nite with a tall glass of mint julip andmybeautiful bride beside me, nothing could be better except a flight in aPiet.Corky in La________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Corky,Thanks for the information. I'm just to the point now of needing to orderall the covering supplies and your list should help a lot. I'm like you andprefer the shinier look of Aerothane to PolyTone. I guess pretty soon I'mgoing to have to actually make a decision which one to go with. Did you getall your materials from ASS? I want to use the lighter 1.7 oz fabric, butASS only sells it in 60" widths. Barry Jay advertises it in 70" widths, soI will probably order it from him - I'll talk with them at OSH in a fewweeks.What colors are you using? Mine will be Forest Green fuselage and verticaltail, with Diana Cream wings and horizontal tail.Jack in North CarolinaBuilding up my engine this week - all structure complete except for theengine mount -----Original Message-----Pieters,A long time ago when I was beginning this Piet project I asked this net foradvise on necessary materials to include wood, steel, aluminum, and coveringmaterials. I will now say that the response was more than inadequate. Iwouldfrequently throw it back trying to figure the costs etc. Well, for what itmay be worth to some ole Piet builder out there just beginning, I am listingall the materials I found necessary to cover and paint my Piet. I used thePoly system throughout. For an old style plane the Poly Tone looks OK. I'msuch a dude and modern cat that I really like the wet shinny look but I canlive with the other. I'm omitting any prices as I can't believe I spent thatmuch money on a few gallons of paint. Depressing a'int it.NX41CCMaterials for covering to include 3 coats each of Brush, Spray and Tone. Practice kit from ASS40 yds 2.7 oz Dacron 72 in wide1 roll rib stitch cord2 rolls reinforcing tape2 rolls 2 in pinked tape1 roll 3 in pinked tape bias1 roll 4 in pinked tape4 Gal Poly Brush2 Gal Poly Spray2 Gal Poly Tone Yellow for Wings and Feathers1 Gal Poly Tone for Fuse3 Gal Reducers (65-75)(8500)(8600)2 Qts Poly TakAll other acrylics and materials bought locallyI hope this little missal may be of some benefit to someone. I know I wouldhave liked this info earlier. However, let me say in all honestly that as Iprogressed I would just call the 800 number, tell them what I needed, givethem my credit card number, use the materials when they arrived. If you keeptoo much of a count on the cost I assure you that you could take thepleasureout of your hobby.From the south on a beautiful Sat nite with a tall glass of mint julip andmybeautiful bride beside me, nothing could be better except a flight in aPiet.Corky in La________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Covering Materials
Original Posted By: "Robert Haines"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Covering MaterialsJack,It's hard not to get in a hurry at this point. Slow down and enjoy the finishing up.I got my cloth and tapes from Superflite.com. I used 2.7 oz. 72 inch as I could get it for $ 3.25 per yard and I'm glad I used the heavier cloth. A little over 2 # for the entire plane compared to 1.7. I bought my Poly stuff from Wicks by the qts to save a little on the UPS hazard charge. It's still a big rip off. Colors are yellow wings and feathers, blue fuse, w/ red and white striped rudder. Old Air Corps thirties colors with the big white stars on the wingsCorky in La________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Covering MaterialsJack,It's hard not to get in a hurry at this point. Slow down and enjoy the finishing up.I got my cloth and tapes from Superflite.com. I used 2.7 oz. 72 inch as I could get it for $ 3.25 per yard and I'm glad I used the heavier cloth. A little over 2 # for the entire plane compared to 1.7. I bought my Poly stuff from Wicks by the qts to save a little on the UPS hazard charge. It's still a big rip off. Colors are yellow wings and feathers, blue fuse, w/ red and white striped rudder. Old Air Corps thirties colors with the big white stars on the wingsCorky in La________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Horse Power? was Fuel economy?
Original Posted By: "Robert Haines"
Theoretically, you could move the whole world if you had a long enoughlever, or had a Briggs and Stratton engine geared down low enough.Robert HainesDu Quoin, Illinois****I just cant imagine any 1 hp (or 5HP) Briggs andStraton engine (with a propulsion wheel of course)that could even MOVE the carriage by itself!!!*****________________________________________________________________________________
Theoretically, you could move the whole world if you had a long enoughlever, or had a Briggs and Stratton engine geared down low enough.Robert HainesDu Quoin, Illinois****I just cant imagine any 1 hp (or 5HP) Briggs andStraton engine (with a propulsion wheel of course)that could even MOVE the carriage by itself!!!*****________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Covering Materials
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Jack,I used the 1.8oz fabric in AS&S p/n 09-00100 pg 277 ( the catalog with theP51 on the front) Assuming my wing is the same width as yours, the fabricjust makes the top of the wing with the legal 1" wrap , and the bottom needsto be trimmed.It seems to be good looking stuff. And we've all heard the story that alldacron is made on the same machine. Don't know if it's true or not.Are your wings ready to cover? If so I have some of this fabric left over.If you want to try it on the wing for size, I can send you a piece.waltNX140DLstill putting togetherBlue fuse and Diana cream wing and tail----- Original Message -----
Jack,I used the 1.8oz fabric in AS&S p/n 09-00100 pg 277 ( the catalog with theP51 on the front) Assuming my wing is the same width as yours, the fabricjust makes the top of the wing with the legal 1" wrap , and the bottom needsto be trimmed.It seems to be good looking stuff. And we've all heard the story that alldacron is made on the same machine. Don't know if it's true or not.Are your wings ready to cover? If so I have some of this fabric left over.If you want to try it on the wing for size, I can send you a piece.waltNX140DLstill putting togetherBlue fuse and Diana cream wing and tail----- Original Message -----