Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
Original Posted By: rhartwig11(at)juno.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
Original Posted By: rhartwig11(at)juno.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
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Maybe they are metric?Bert----- Original Message -----
Maybe they are metric?Bert----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
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Sound like they are Number 12-24 which probably are old WW2 surplus. Theyare not very common anymore. The body size was 0.216 Ran across this with anold Funk.Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, OshkoshEditor, EAA Safety Programscgalley(at)qcbc.org or experimenter(at)eaa.orgAlways looking for articles for the Experimenter----- Original Message -----
Sound like they are Number 12-24 which probably are old WW2 surplus. Theyare not very common anymore. The body size was 0.216 Ran across this with anold Funk.Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, OshkoshEditor, EAA Safety Programscgalley(at)qcbc.org or experimenter(at)eaa.orgAlways looking for articles for the Experimenter----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Dick,These are 12-28 thread and are an ancient AN spec. If you notice both thecurrent -22 and the -32 turnbuckles use the 1/4-28 thread. The 12-28 wasthe old -22 (2200 lb strength) but since industry has pretty much abandonedthe 12-28, the 1/4-28 was the next size up with suitable strength to handlethis load. It is practically impossible to get even the cutting tools tomake anything 12-28. especially in LH thread.Since I have a lathe and can make custom barrels, I will offer to take themoff of your hands for a reasonable price. How many do you have, whatlength--shorts or longs?Chris Bobka-----Original Message-----
Dick,These are 12-28 thread and are an ancient AN spec. If you notice both thecurrent -22 and the -32 turnbuckles use the 1/4-28 thread. The 12-28 wasthe old -22 (2200 lb strength) but since industry has pretty much abandonedthe 12-28, the 1/4-28 was the next size up with suitable strength to handlethis load. It is practically impossible to get even the cutting tools tomake anything 12-28. especially in LH thread.Since I have a lathe and can make custom barrels, I will offer to take themoff of your hands for a reasonable price. How many do you have, whatlength--shorts or longs?Chris Bobka-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: Dennis Engelkenjohn
You guys amaze me. Someone comes up with a 60 to 70 year old piece of a turnbuckle and you have literature and specs on it!!??? Are you sure you're not making this stuff up:-) Now will someone tell Dennis what a 325SF and a 326SF turnbuckle is and not to braze 4130 steel. Just kidding, sort of. Ed G.>From: "Christian Bobka" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: more on the turnbuckle parts>Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:52:11 -0500>>>Cy and Dick,>>The standard was adopted by Army-Navy on November 1, 1924. Numbering was>different: AN44 through AN50: R- right hand thread, L- left hand thread, >S->short Barrel, L- long barrel, 44- cable eye, 45- fork, 46- pin eye, 47->barrel, 48- turnbuckle ass'y with two cable eyes, 49-turnbuckle ass'y with>cable eye and fork, 50- turnbuckle ass'y with cable eye and pin eye. Thus>AN-44-46LL is a Army-Navy standard long cable eye with a LH thread for a>cable strength of 4600 lbs.>>Indeed a .216 major diameter and a number 12. If there is a number 2 and a>number 4 and a number 6 and number 8 and a number 10, then why not a number>12?>>I also looked up the TPI and it is -28 not -24 per June 1928 Journal of the>SAE, Vol XXII, No. 6 page 707.>>chris bobka>>-----Original Message----->From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of>rhartwig11(at)juno.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02>>>I have some fork ends for turnbuckles that appear to be 7/32 X 28 thread.> In other words they won't fit into a 3/16 X 32 barrel and they slide>right through a 1/4 XI. B & B and AS&S don't have barrels to fit. Has>anyone else heard of this size or where I can get them.>Dick Hartwig>>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide ... ______Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 21:03:20 -0700
You guys amaze me. Someone comes up with a 60 to 70 year old piece of a turnbuckle and you have literature and specs on it!!??? Are you sure you're not making this stuff up:-) Now will someone tell Dennis what a 325SF and a 326SF turnbuckle is and not to braze 4130 steel. Just kidding, sort of. Ed G.>From: "Christian Bobka" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: more on the turnbuckle parts>Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:52:11 -0500>>>Cy and Dick,>>The standard was adopted by Army-Navy on November 1, 1924. Numbering was>different: AN44 through AN50: R- right hand thread, L- left hand thread, >S->short Barrel, L- long barrel, 44- cable eye, 45- fork, 46- pin eye, 47->barrel, 48- turnbuckle ass'y with two cable eyes, 49-turnbuckle ass'y with>cable eye and fork, 50- turnbuckle ass'y with cable eye and pin eye. Thus>AN-44-46LL is a Army-Navy standard long cable eye with a LH thread for a>cable strength of 4600 lbs.>>Indeed a .216 major diameter and a number 12. If there is a number 2 and a>number 4 and a number 6 and number 8 and a number 10, then why not a number>12?>>I also looked up the TPI and it is -28 not -24 per June 1928 Journal of the>SAE, Vol XXII, No. 6 page 707.>>chris bobka>>-----Original Message----->From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of>rhartwig11(at)juno.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 09/07/02>>>I have some fork ends for turnbuckles that appear to be 7/32 X 28 thread.> In other words they won't fit into a 3/16 X 32 barrel and they slide>right through a 1/4 XI. B & B and AS&S don't have barrels to fit. Has>anyone else heard of this size or where I can get them.>Dick Hartwig>>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide ... ______Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 21:03:20 -0700
Re: Pietenpol-List: metal parts
Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: metal partsMaybe I missed it ...but I didn't see anyone there with metal piet partsother than engine parts and Vi Kaplers hinges. Ed________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: metal partsMaybe I missed it ...but I didn't see anyone there with metal piet partsother than engine parts and Vi Kaplers hinges. Ed________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: metal parts
Original Posted By: Dennis Engelkenjohn
Yes, it was Lee Stenson selling the laser cut fittings.Gene Rambo----- Original Message -----
Yes, it was Lee Stenson selling the laser cut fittings.Gene Rambo----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: metal parts
Original Posted By:> "Gene Rambo"
What's the going rate for a set of laser cut parts from Stenson? $1,400from Replicraft sounds likes a lot especially when they don't deliver. Iwould hate to think that the "value add" of actual delivery would push theprice higher than that.Robert HainesDu Quoin, IllinoisP.S. - Nice aeroplane, Corky.
What's the going rate for a set of laser cut parts from Stenson? $1,400from Replicraft sounds likes a lot especially when they don't deliver. Iwould hate to think that the "value add" of actual delivery would push theprice higher than that.Robert HainesDu Quoin, IllinoisP.S. - Nice aeroplane, Corky.
Pietenpol-List: metal parts
Original Posted By: Dennis Engelkenjohn
> Pietenpol-List: metal parts
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy