Original Posted By: "Hubbard, Eugene"
I am new to the list and am looking for as much info as possible aboutchoosing between the Pietenpol and the GN-1.I have noticed that the plans for the GN-1 are only $50. Does thatinclude the wing or do you have to use J-3 wings?Also, a look at the wood kits for the Piet & GN-1 in AS&S has a pricedifference of about $300. What are the main differences in the in the two designs that are reflected in thoseprices?Thanks for all the help,Christopher W. E. Smith ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Help me decide
Re: Pietenpol-List: Help me decide
Original Posted By: Christopher Smith
Hi: ChrisI cant help you on all your requests but can on some things. The best wood Ihave seen and used is from wicks aircraft or western aircraft in Canada. Asfar as the difference between pietenpol and GN1 I can only say about thepietenpol is truly a very nice plane to fly I have 450hrs in a pietenpolwith 65 cont and enjoyed every bit of it even in the snow on skies. And nowI'm building my own. Bill Budgell----- Original Message -----
Hi: ChrisI cant help you on all your requests but can on some things. The best wood Ihave seen and used is from wicks aircraft or western aircraft in Canada. Asfar as the difference between pietenpol and GN1 I can only say about thepietenpol is truly a very nice plane to fly I have 450hrs in a pietenpolwith 65 cont and enjoyed every bit of it even in the snow on skies. And nowI'm building my own. Bill Budgell----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Help me decide
Original Posted By: "Christopher Smith"
yes the price includes plans for the wing. You may use clipped J-3 wings ifyou choose but there are no plans for that particular conversion (that Iknow of)I bought my wood kit from AS&S and I too saw the price difference betweenthe GN1 kit and the Piet. I'm not exactly sure why there is a differenceother than the GN-1 requires a few more board feet?? not really sure.The AS&S kit is not complete. You can plan on spending about another $300or so on more wood that for some reason they left out. I contacted themabout it 2 years ago but as of now they still have not corrected the missingpieces. I don't recall off hand exactly which pieces they are but I thinkthey were pieces used in the tail section and the wing rib cap strips.You will also need to get some plywood as this is not included in the kit. Iused BS1088 Okoume marine ply used for making canoes. I got it here:http://www.noahsmarine.com/United_State ... s-us.htmlI got all my 1/4" and 1/8" from there and the bill was like $220 shipped tomy door. It's about 500% cheaper than real MS aircraft ply and the quality is damnnear as good. In fact, it's got a Lloyd's approval#.In all honesty I would highly suggest getting your Spruce from Wick's.I've had it with AS&S. They have finally done it for me by "losing" myrefund for a defective CHT gauge I returned many many weeks ago. There's alist of ways they have done me wrong but that was the straw that broke thecamels back for me.anyways... don't mean to ramble on about AS&S.. use them if you like. Therequality of wood is excellent. If you go with AS&S be prepared to wait about8-10 weeks to get your wood. Wicks wood will get to you MUCH MUCH quicker.DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper----- Original Message -----
yes the price includes plans for the wing. You may use clipped J-3 wings ifyou choose but there are no plans for that particular conversion (that Iknow of)I bought my wood kit from AS&S and I too saw the price difference betweenthe GN1 kit and the Piet. I'm not exactly sure why there is a differenceother than the GN-1 requires a few more board feet?? not really sure.The AS&S kit is not complete. You can plan on spending about another $300or so on more wood that for some reason they left out. I contacted themabout it 2 years ago but as of now they still have not corrected the missingpieces. I don't recall off hand exactly which pieces they are but I thinkthey were pieces used in the tail section and the wing rib cap strips.You will also need to get some plywood as this is not included in the kit. Iused BS1088 Okoume marine ply used for making canoes. I got it here:http://www.noahsmarine.com/United_State ... s-us.htmlI got all my 1/4" and 1/8" from there and the bill was like $220 shipped tomy door. It's about 500% cheaper than real MS aircraft ply and the quality is damnnear as good. In fact, it's got a Lloyd's approval#.In all honesty I would highly suggest getting your Spruce from Wick's.I've had it with AS&S. They have finally done it for me by "losing" myrefund for a defective CHT gauge I returned many many weeks ago. There's alist of ways they have done me wrong but that was the straw that broke thecamels back for me.anyways... don't mean to ramble on about AS&S.. use them if you like. Therequality of wood is excellent. If you go with AS&S be prepared to wait about8-10 weeks to get your wood. Wicks wood will get to you MUCH MUCH quicker.DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Help me decide
Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
RE: Pietenpol-List: Help me decide
Original Posted By: DJ Vegh [mailto:djv(at)imagedv.com]
DJ,I did not find the quality of the AS&S wood to be excellent--there were toomany capstrips that I couldn't use because of the grain angle. I'm nottalking about boarderline 1:12 here--more like 1:4. I was much happier withWicks' wood, and had it shipped across country for spars and longerons. OTHO, I've found their service pretty good for everything else (except thatthey always seem to have tubing backordered.Gene-----Original Message-----
DJ,I did not find the quality of the AS&S wood to be excellent--there were toomany capstrips that I couldn't use because of the grain angle. I'm nottalking about boarderline 1:12 here--more like 1:4. I was much happier withWicks' wood, and had it shipped across country for spars and longerons. OTHO, I've found their service pretty good for everything else (except thatthey always seem to have tubing backordered.Gene-----Original Message-----