Original Posted By: Richard Navratil
Dick,Greg and Dale are putting stitts silver on right now. The airplane is down atStanton.We can get together after sunday.I'll try to drag Greg and/or Dale with me.Exactly where are you? Phone number? Best time? Are we in heated space or doI dress warm?chris ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: inspection
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: inspection
Original Posted By: "Christian Bobka"
ChrisI am leaving town for 10-12 days starting this Friday, going sailing. Ihave a heated hangar at Crystal Airport.I'll be in touch when I get bacl.Dick----- Original Message -----
ChrisI am leaving town for 10-12 days starting this Friday, going sailing. Ihave a heated hangar at Crystal Airport.I'll be in touch when I get bacl.Dick----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: "LAWRENCE WILLIAMS"
The FAA man told me to complete a search on any AD's for the Pietenpol or the contintalengine before my inspection on Saturday. Does anybody know where I wouldfind this info? I assume it is somewhere linked to the FAA site but I haventfound it yet.Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________
The FAA man told me to complete a search on any AD's for the Pietenpol or the contintalengine before my inspection on Saturday. Does anybody know where I wouldfind this info? I assume it is somewhere linked to the FAA site but I haventfound it yet.Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: BARNSTMR(at)aol.com
Cancel my last request for help finding AD's on FAA site . I found it.Dick________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:10:35 -0500
Cancel my last request for help finding AD's on FAA site . I found it.Dick________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:10:35 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: BARNSTMR(at)aol.com
Re: Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: Richard Navratil
Tell him to take a hike...... This is simply not required. You need a new inspectoror a good DAR.This guy is not doing you any good at all.Weav ----- Original Message -----
Tell him to take a hike...... This is simply not required. You need a new inspectoror a good DAR.This guy is not doing you any good at all.Weav ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: Richard Navratil
Dick,I know this has been answered already, but it's amazing what you go thru with theFAA. When I went for my repairmans cert. got an FAA guy (really nice guywho said he normally did the "big iron" the 777's.) He had to go and get a sheetto be able to go thru the criteria. He said that a builders log was required.Even gave me examples of a procedure to follow to create the log. The Photolog that I showed him only made him say "nice plane", but it wasn't enough.It happened I was flying to Fl. for 4 days to visit my mother. So got the bookhe suggested and started entering. In the airport, in the plane, in the airportagain, in the plane again, blah,blah.A week later called the number again , and he said he'd been "reassigned" , andto walk in and get the "duty guy". Another nice guy (really) and sat down withall the paperwork. He looked at all the stuff,,,,,glanced at the album and said "nice plane" , andthen said, "lets get to the paperwork!!!! there was the builders log overthere on the table,,and it was never brought up again. Now the builders log sitsat the bottom of my "stuff" doing nothing.It's a funny world!!A doctor (vet) friend of mine built a plane and was having it inspected by theFAA, with a mutual friend, my mentor, standing by. My mentor relates this storythat the inspector looked at the oil tank on the A65, and said "why would youuse such a small gas tank"???? They just looked at each other and bit theirtongues.They said nothing and the plane passed.true story.nuff said.Guess there's a million stories out there. This is just another.walt evansNX140DL ----- Original Message -----
Dick,I know this has been answered already, but it's amazing what you go thru with theFAA. When I went for my repairmans cert. got an FAA guy (really nice guywho said he normally did the "big iron" the 777's.) He had to go and get a sheetto be able to go thru the criteria. He said that a builders log was required.Even gave me examples of a procedure to follow to create the log. The Photolog that I showed him only made him say "nice plane", but it wasn't enough.It happened I was flying to Fl. for 4 days to visit my mother. So got the bookhe suggested and started entering. In the airport, in the plane, in the airportagain, in the plane again, blah,blah.A week later called the number again , and he said he'd been "reassigned" , andto walk in and get the "duty guy". Another nice guy (really) and sat down withall the paperwork. He looked at all the stuff,,,,,glanced at the album and said "nice plane" , andthen said, "lets get to the paperwork!!!! there was the builders log overthere on the table,,and it was never brought up again. Now the builders log sitsat the bottom of my "stuff" doing nothing.It's a funny world!!A doctor (vet) friend of mine built a plane and was having it inspected by theFAA, with a mutual friend, my mentor, standing by. My mentor relates this storythat the inspector looked at the oil tank on the A65, and said "why would youuse such a small gas tank"???? They just looked at each other and bit theirtongues.They said nothing and the plane passed.true story.nuff said.Guess there's a million stories out there. This is just another.walt evansNX140DL ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: Richard Navratil
Repeat after me... There aren't any AD for experimental aircraft. With that saidthere are ADs on components like engines, magnetos and the like. ----- Original Message -----
Repeat after me... There aren't any AD for experimental aircraft. With that saidthere are ADs on components like engines, magnetos and the like. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection 2
Original Posted By: "Richard Navratil"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection 2In a message dated 3/31/04 4:28:30 PM Central Standard Time, BARNSTMR(at)aol.com writes:>I still have them stored on my computer. I could e-mail it to anyone that is interested...just e-mail me directly with your request. I'll print out a copy to bring to Brodhead.Chuck GantzerNX770CGstill working some squawks...________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Inspection 2In a message dated 3/31/04 4:28:30 PM Central Standard Time, BARNSTMR(at)aol.com writes:>I still have them stored on my computer. I could e-mail it to anyone that is interested...just e-mail me directly with your request. I'll print out a copy to bring to Brodhead.Chuck GantzerNX770CGstill working some squawks...________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Way to go, Gardiner! I knew you had to be getting close. Will you have itat Sun 'n' Fun? If so, we should have a pretty good gathering of Pietenpolsthere.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Way to go, Gardiner! I knew you had to be getting close. Will you have itat Sun 'n' Fun? If so, we should have a pretty good gathering of Pietenpolsthere.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Gardiner,That's great news! What does 'passing the first go around' mean? Gary BootheCool, CAPietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear16 ribs done-----Original Message-----
Gardiner,That's great news! What does 'passing the first go around' mean? Gary BootheCool, CAPietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear16 ribs done-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: inspection
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
And a good CONGRATS to you Gardiner. Wear more warm cloths, get up there, shorthops help the winter blues.I have been up 3 times since the 31St January and nothing above 20 degrees F. Iguess when one gets into the 80,s there isn't any feelings anywhere.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:21:44 -0500
And a good CONGRATS to you Gardiner. Wear more warm cloths, get up there, shorthops help the winter blues.I have been up 3 times since the 31St January and nothing above 20 degrees F. Iguess when one gets into the 80,s there isn't any feelings anywhere.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:21:44 -0500
RE: Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Ben, Douwe, and Gardiner,Wow!!! Three new official Pietenpols, I'll bet there will be more work onPiet projects this week than any week in history.Way to go guys.Skip> > Hey listers, NX840LM got it's inspection two weeks ago and passed thefirst go around. I have not flown it as it is just too damn cold here inthe sunny south.. Even taxiiing around just freezes my you know what. Iwill have to put a cover over the front pit. Gardiner Mason________________________________________________________________________________
Ben, Douwe, and Gardiner,Wow!!! Three new official Pietenpols, I'll bet there will be more work onPiet projects this week than any week in history.Way to go guys.Skip> > Hey listers, NX840LM got it's inspection two weeks ago and passed thefirst go around. I have not flown it as it is just too damn cold here inthe sunny south.. Even taxiiing around just freezes my you know what. Iwill have to put a cover over the front pit. Gardiner Mason________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: airlion
RE: Pietenpol-List: formation flying
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Oscar,As usual, your Battle Contingency Plan is spot on. Maybe that's why WWIflights started out with everyone taking off at the same time from a bigfield!Gary BootheCool, CAPietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear16 ribs done-----Original Message-----
Oscar,As usual, your Battle Contingency Plan is spot on. Maybe that's why WWIflights started out with everyone taking off at the same time from a bigfield!Gary BootheCool, CAPietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear16 ribs done-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: formation flying
Original Posted By: airlion
> Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Pietenpol-List: Re: inspection
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Gardiner congratulations to you. There was no doubt that it would PASS. Guys Ihave been to his hangar and drooled on NX840LM. Nice Corvair install too. It hasa very nice cable operated trim tab.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs and tailfeathers doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Gardiner congratulations to you. There was no doubt that it would PASS. Guys Ihave been to his hangar and drooled on NX840LM. Nice Corvair install too. It hasa very nice cable operated trim tab.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs and tailfeathers doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
> Pietenpol-List: Re: inspection
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Subject: Pietenpol-List: photos from Gardiner and Air & Space update Gardiner-- any chance you could post some photos of your completed airplane forusto enjoy ? Very exciting news from all of you three, Douwe, Ben, and yourself.I'd love to see as many photos as any of you wish to post. Also it was really nice of Barry Davis to post those photos of some of the BigPietsin flight and on the ground. I have a feeling that EAA and Mary Jones will give you guys more press when yousurfaceat SNF again in Sport Aviation which will be great to see. Along those lines, I spoke with the photo and art editor of our upcoming SmithsonianAir & Space Pietenpol Air Camper article by former WWII AAF pilot veteran/ turnedauthorMarshall Lumbsden and we'll see that in the April issue ! Mike C. >-----Original Message----->From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol->list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:45 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: inspection>>>Gardiner congratulations to you. There was no doubt that it would PASS.>Guys I have been to his hangar and drooled on NX840LM. Nice Corvair>install too. It has a very nice cable operated trim tab.>>-------->Jerry Dotson>59 Daniel Johnson Rd>Baker, FL 32531>>Started building NX510JD July, 2009>Ribs and tailfeathers done>using Lycoming O-235>>>Read this topic online here:>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:11:58 -0500
Subject: Pietenpol-List: photos from Gardiner and Air & Space update Gardiner-- any chance you could post some photos of your completed airplane forusto enjoy ? Very exciting news from all of you three, Douwe, Ben, and yourself.I'd love to see as many photos as any of you wish to post. Also it was really nice of Barry Davis to post those photos of some of the BigPietsin flight and on the ground. I have a feeling that EAA and Mary Jones will give you guys more press when yousurfaceat SNF again in Sport Aviation which will be great to see. Along those lines, I spoke with the photo and art editor of our upcoming SmithsonianAir & Space Pietenpol Air Camper article by former WWII AAF pilot veteran/ turnedauthorMarshall Lumbsden and we'll see that in the April issue ! Mike C. >-----Original Message----->From: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol->list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Dotson>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:45 PM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: inspection>>>Gardiner congratulations to you. There was no doubt that it would PASS.>Guys I have been to his hangar and drooled on NX840LM. Nice Corvair>install too. It has a very nice cable operated trim tab.>>-------->Jerry Dotson>59 Daniel Johnson Rd>Baker, FL 32531>>Started building NX510JD July, 2009>Ribs and tailfeathers done>using Lycoming O-235>>>Read this topic online here:>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:11:58 -0500
Pietenpol-List: formation flying
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
> Pietenpol-List: formation flying
Original Posted By: Steve Ruse
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted> by: Oscar Zuniga > > > Jim wrote-> > >Piets are going to be so thick in the air soon> >that the RV's will be running for cover.> > Yeah... imagine replicating the historic 35-RV> formation flight (or the more recent 37-ship> formation flight that they made in Georgia), but> with Piets.> > Let's see: five minutes per Piet to get them> hand-propped and warmed up, then another two> minutes per Piet to get them off the ground and> in a holding pattern. Another ten or fifteen> minutes to marshal them into formation. Hmmm...> 90 minutes and by now some of them are running> low on fuel and a few others have pilots who are> getting cold from being in the air so long.> > Formation starts to come together, it's been> an hour and a half, and a dozen of us older> pilots are feeling the need to lighten our> bladders. Twenty planes in the formation now,> the others starting to come together, but now> a few planes are landing to refuel or relieve.> > After two plus hours in the air, even the best> of 'em starts to run low on fuel, seats and> backs are starting to ache, legs are crossing> and uncrossing, one or two planes drop out due> to snapped cranks (the Corvairs), and nobody> is very interested in completing the formation> flight. We want to go strafe trains or lay down> some insecticide on a field, not drone through> the air over and over.> > Somewhere in the formation Jeff stalls his Piet> and drops off on a wing since he wasn't holding> right rudder, so he has to climb back to pattern> altitude and get back in formation.> > And in all that time the airplanes have only> completed four circuits of the field since Piets> fly so slow. Wives and families have started to> leave the airport, the local newspaper reporter> left to get lunch hours ago, and even Markle has> gotten bored and gone home ;o)> > Nah... let's leave the huge formation flights> to the RV guys!!! > > Oscar Zuniga> Air Camper NX41CC> San Antonio, TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net> > > > > > Email Forum -> FAQ,> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> List Contribution Web Site -> -Matt> Dralle, List Admin.> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:49:03 -0500
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted> by: Oscar Zuniga > > > Jim wrote-> > >Piets are going to be so thick in the air soon> >that the RV's will be running for cover.> > Yeah... imagine replicating the historic 35-RV> formation flight (or the more recent 37-ship> formation flight that they made in Georgia), but> with Piets.> > Let's see: five minutes per Piet to get them> hand-propped and warmed up, then another two> minutes per Piet to get them off the ground and> in a holding pattern. Another ten or fifteen> minutes to marshal them into formation. Hmmm...> 90 minutes and by now some of them are running> low on fuel and a few others have pilots who are> getting cold from being in the air so long.> > Formation starts to come together, it's been> an hour and a half, and a dozen of us older> pilots are feeling the need to lighten our> bladders. Twenty planes in the formation now,> the others starting to come together, but now> a few planes are landing to refuel or relieve.> > After two plus hours in the air, even the best> of 'em starts to run low on fuel, seats and> backs are starting to ache, legs are crossing> and uncrossing, one or two planes drop out due> to snapped cranks (the Corvairs), and nobody> is very interested in completing the formation> flight. We want to go strafe trains or lay down> some insecticide on a field, not drone through> the air over and over.> > Somewhere in the formation Jeff stalls his Piet> and drops off on a wing since he wasn't holding> right rudder, so he has to climb back to pattern> altitude and get back in formation.> > And in all that time the airplanes have only> completed four circuits of the field since Piets> fly so slow. Wives and families have started to> leave the airport, the local newspaper reporter> left to get lunch hours ago, and even Markle has> gotten bored and gone home ;o)> > Nah... let's leave the huge formation flights> to the RV guys!!! > > Oscar Zuniga> Air Camper NX41CC> San Antonio, TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net> > > > > > Email Forum -> FAQ,> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> List Contribution Web Site -> -Matt> Dralle, List Admin.> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:49:03 -0500
> RE: Pietenpol-List: inspection
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted> by: "Jack Phillips" > > Way to go, Gardiner! I knew you had to be getting> close. Will you have it> at Sun 'n' Fun? If so, we should have a pretty good> gathering of Pietenpols> there.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Raleigh, NC> > -----Original Message-----
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted> by: "Jack Phillips" > > Way to go, Gardiner! I knew you had to be getting> close. Will you have it> at Sun 'n' Fun? If so, we should have a pretty good> gathering of Pietenpols> there.> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Raleigh, NC> > -----Original Message-----
> Pietenpol-List: Re: inspection
Original Posted By: Lawrence Williams
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted> by: "Jerry Dotson" > > Gardiner congratulations to you. There was no doubt that it> would PASS. Guys I have been to his hangar and drooled on> NX840LM. Nice Corvair install too. It has a very nice cable> operated trim tab.> > --------> Jerry Dotson> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd> Baker, FL 32531> > Started building NX510JD July, 2009> Ribs and tailfeathers done> using Lycoming O-235> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 184#286184> > > > > > > > Email Forum -> FAQ,> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> List Contribution Web Site -> -Matt> Dralle, List Admin.> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:46:26 -0800 (PST)
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted> by: "Jerry Dotson" > > Gardiner congratulations to you. There was no doubt that it> would PASS. Guys I have been to his hangar and drooled on> NX840LM. Nice Corvair install too. It has a very nice cable> operated trim tab.> > --------> Jerry Dotson> 59 Daniel Johnson Rd> Baker, FL 32531> > Started building NX510JD July, 2009> Ribs and tailfeathers done> using Lycoming O-235> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 184#286184> > > > > > > > Email Forum -> FAQ,> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> List Contribution Web Site -> -Matt> Dralle, List Admin.> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:46:26 -0800 (PST)