Original Posted By: "Eric Williams"
Give me a break...... When properly flying a Piet, you shouldn't be highenough to use a stupid BRS... 40 pounds of excess CRAP. And for pete'ssake, Just how many Piet's have had in flight structural failures???? ANDhow many will be flying into IFR conditions???AND, AND AND???????????????????Some people just have way too many thoughts or money and not enough flyingexperience.----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-& BRS)
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Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-& BRS)OK, I'm going to weigh in my opinion on this BRS.In effect, I agree with Fred, but I'll be a little less flamboyant.I don't need one, I don't want one, and would never suggest anyone building a Pietenpol to incorporate one. BRS is a crashworthy device. It seems to me, that 'Grounders' (folks who stay on the ground) always wish to have crashworthyness devices incorporated into aircraft, because a crash is what theyfear. Flyers will always opt for airworthyness. I've done extensive research on Pietenpol accidents, and have not yet found a structural failure caused by normal operation. If you build it to theplans, do a thorough pre-flight, stay within the envelope, the Pietenpol designis NOT going to come apart. Scud running is probably how a Pietenpol pilot will get into trouble. If you fly into IMC without instruments, there is a slimchance that you will survive...you are out of the envelope. An engine failure simply means it's time to land...a Pietenpol lands slow enough to put itin a very small area, and walk away. Just keep the nose down, and stay away fromroads...too many spider webs around (electric / telephone wires). Here are a couple of Quotes: "If an airplane is still in one piece, don't cheat on it; ride the bastard down." (Ernest K. Gann, author & aviator)"If you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the crash as possible." (Bob Hoover - renowned aerobatic and test pilot)"Always keep an 'out' in your hip pocket." - Bevo Howard"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." ~~ Albert Einstein ~~Chuck GantzerNX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:00:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-& BRS)OK, I'm going to weigh in my opinion on this BRS.In effect, I agree with Fred, but I'll be a little less flamboyant.I don't need one, I don't want one, and would never suggest anyone building a Pietenpol to incorporate one. BRS is a crashworthy device. It seems to me, that 'Grounders' (folks who stay on the ground) always wish to have crashworthyness devices incorporated into aircraft, because a crash is what theyfear. Flyers will always opt for airworthyness. I've done extensive research on Pietenpol accidents, and have not yet found a structural failure caused by normal operation. If you build it to theplans, do a thorough pre-flight, stay within the envelope, the Pietenpol designis NOT going to come apart. Scud running is probably how a Pietenpol pilot will get into trouble. If you fly into IMC without instruments, there is a slimchance that you will survive...you are out of the envelope. An engine failure simply means it's time to land...a Pietenpol lands slow enough to put itin a very small area, and walk away. Just keep the nose down, and stay away fromroads...too many spider webs around (electric / telephone wires). Here are a couple of Quotes: "If an airplane is still in one piece, don't cheat on it; ride the bastard down." (Ernest K. Gann, author & aviator)"If you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the crash as possible." (Bob Hoover - renowned aerobatic and test pilot)"Always keep an 'out' in your hip pocket." - Bevo Howard"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." ~~ Albert Einstein ~~Chuck GantzerNX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:00:46 -0700
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-& BRS)
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
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Original Posted By: "Jim Ash"
Jim,the descent rate is 23 fps (1380 fpm) Not a gentle touchdown but one thatmay only give you a sprained wrist or ankle.DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper----- Original Message -----
Jim,the descent rate is 23 fps (1380 fpm) Not a gentle touchdown but one thatmay only give you a sprained wrist or ankle.DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper----- Original Message -----