Original Posted By: Jim
The old saying - "those that have, and those that are going to..." Yes, you knowwhat I'm talking about (please don't make me utter the blasphemous words aloud),I successfully accomplished my first with the GN-1 tonight. Unfortunately,3/4 of the EAA chapter were out flying also - and not the quiet 3/4 either.There was much discussion/threats afterwords about painting a circle on theside of the nose. At least they helped cleaning the grass out of the wheelpants...No damage, didn't hit anything, wing didn't dip or touch ground, tires didn't skidor slide, only did a nice easy 90 degree attention catching turn, and endedup in the grass. So now, all I can say is "been there - done that". NOT to be repeated again...That much luck only happens once.What a gorgeous night to fly though!Lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:33:04 +0000 (GMT)
Pietenpol-List: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Re: Pietenpol-List: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Original Posted By: "ldmill"
Since this was "divulged" on the Piet site, I am assuming the Waiex is still pure and undefiled! See there, you get used to the nice ways of the Waiex, then you have to be made honest with the GN-1! But don't go to sleep with the Waiex, either!Thanks,Ray KrauseN51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop, Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 196 hrs.
Since this was "divulged" on the Piet site, I am assuming the Waiex is still pure and undefiled! See there, you get used to the nice ways of the Waiex, then you have to be made honest with the GN-1! But don't go to sleep with the Waiex, either!Thanks,Ray KrauseN51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop, Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 196 hrs.
Pietenpol-List: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Original Posted By: Matthew VanDervort
Hi Ray! Nice to hear from you. The Waiex is pristine still. Fortunately it hasn'thad an incident yet, otherwise my shop would be a horrendous mess...Just got panel back from powder coating and put it together. Bundling wiring rightnow - then cockpit is complete and off to cowling/windshield and canopy.--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hi Ray! Nice to hear from you. The Waiex is pristine still. Fortunately it hasn'thad an incident yet, otherwise my shop would be a horrendous mess...Just got panel back from powder coating and put it together. Bundling wiring rightnow - then cockpit is complete and off to cowling/windshield and canopy.--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Original Posted By: Matthew VanDervort
Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 16, 2010, at 10:52 PM, "ldmill" wrote:> >>> Hi Ray! Nice to hear from you. The Waiex is pristine still. > Fortunately it hasn't had an incident yet, otherwise my shop would > be a horrendous mess...>> Just got panel back from powder coating and put it together. > Bundling wiring right now - then cockpit is complete and off to > cowling/windshield and canopy.>> --------> Lorin Miller> Waiex N81YX> GN-1 N30PP>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 16, 2010, at 10:52 PM, "ldmill" wrote:> >>> Hi Ray! Nice to hear from you. The Waiex is pristine still. > Fortunately it hasn't had an incident yet, otherwise my shop would > be a horrendous mess...>> Just got panel back from powder coating and put it together. > Bundling wiring right now - then cockpit is complete and off to > cowling/windshield and canopy.>> --------> Lorin Miller> Waiex N81YX> GN-1 N30PP>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
"Ended in the grass"?!?? You're supposed to start in the grass (and end, too).Next your going to tell us you've got a radio installed in that antique homebuilt aircraft.It's a humbling experience. Glad it turned out for the best and nothing was damaged (other than pride).Dan-- yocum(at)gmail.com>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:57:33 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
"Ended in the grass"?!?? You're supposed to start in the grass (and end, too).Next your going to tell us you've got a radio installed in that antique homebuilt aircraft.It's a humbling experience. Glad it turned out for the best and nothing was damaged (other than pride).Dan-- yocum(at)gmail.com>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:57:33 -0400Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels
Original Posted By: "Catdesigns"
I think I'll go as Jim Markle this year. My hangar mate movedout with his Zenith and all his tools and I need to re-stockwith new tools ;o)But nahh.... Brodhead is not happening this year for me(again), although I did pull all my charts and route planningstuff out the other night and looked at it very longingly.My wife knows what it's all about now, and she just leavesthe room when the big VFR planning map, pencil, and straightedgecome out onto the kitchen table. I have slightly adjustedthe route and one or two stops based on invitations to stayovernight or stop for fuel, including new friends in CedarRapids, Iowa. I have enough invitations and friends aroundthe country now that I could probably fly cross-country allyear long and never have to pay for a motel or a meal!This is what Pietenpol Air Camping is all about ;o)Oscar "Light Fingers" ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels
I think I'll go as Jim Markle this year. My hangar mate movedout with his Zenith and all his tools and I need to re-stockwith new tools ;o)But nahh.... Brodhead is not happening this year for me(again), although I did pull all my charts and route planningstuff out the other night and looked at it very longingly.My wife knows what it's all about now, and she just leavesthe room when the big VFR planning map, pencil, and straightedgecome out onto the kitchen table. I have slightly adjustedthe route and one or two stops based on invitations to stayovernight or stop for fuel, including new friends in CedarRapids, Iowa. I have enough invitations and friends aroundthe country now that I could probably fly cross-country allyear long and never have to pay for a motel or a meal!This is what Pietenpol Air Camping is all about ;o)Oscar "Light Fingers" ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question for the West Coast Piet Infidels
Original Posted By: "Ray Krause"
I cant attend this year because I am afraid that with the huge budget deficit inCalifornia I might have to pay a large reintegration fee to get back into California.Fortunately, this will work in my favor as I need to use this time to build becauseGary Boothe seems to have committed the California group to flying our Pietenpolsto Brodhead in 2011 or 12, I cant remember the exact date. Given thecurrent state of completion of the California Pietenpols that I know of, it lookslike Mike Groah and his dad Vic will be the only ones who will easily makeit. Jim Boyer is cheating by getting his wonderful wife to help him so he mightmake the deadline too. The rest of us have a lot of work to do. For instanceI have built a whole wing panel and Gary hasnt even completed another wingrib. Given his lack of progress on the wing ribs, Im guessing he is secretly buildinga clipped wing Pietenpol. Perhaps it will be something like a Monocupebut with a crank snapping Corvair up front. How else can you explain his needingonly 18 wing ribs? Speaking of Corvairs, it seems that I am the only oneof the bunch using a real engine (A-75) so even if they do happen to get theirplanes finished they will only get halfway there before something snaps. I willprobably be the only one to make it all the way.So Mike to answer your REAL question, Yes it looks safe for you to attend Brodheadthis year as the riffraff from the west coast will not be there in mass.--------ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I cant attend this year because I am afraid that with the huge budget deficit inCalifornia I might have to pay a large reintegration fee to get back into California.Fortunately, this will work in my favor as I need to use this time to build becauseGary Boothe seems to have committed the California group to flying our Pietenpolsto Brodhead in 2011 or 12, I cant remember the exact date. Given thecurrent state of completion of the California Pietenpols that I know of, it lookslike Mike Groah and his dad Vic will be the only ones who will easily makeit. Jim Boyer is cheating by getting his wonderful wife to help him so he mightmake the deadline too. The rest of us have a lot of work to do. For instanceI have built a whole wing panel and Gary hasnt even completed another wingrib. Given his lack of progress on the wing ribs, Im guessing he is secretly buildinga clipped wing Pietenpol. Perhaps it will be something like a Monocupebut with a crank snapping Corvair up front. How else can you explain his needingonly 18 wing ribs? Speaking of Corvairs, it seems that I am the only oneof the bunch using a real engine (A-75) so even if they do happen to get theirplanes finished they will only get halfway there before something snaps. I willprobably be the only one to make it all the way.So Mike to answer your REAL question, Yes it looks safe for you to attend Brodheadthis year as the riffraff from the west coast will not be there in mass.--------ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Original Posted By: "ldmill"
You are making great progress! The fun part is about to begin.Ray Krause----- Original Message -----
You are making great progress! The fun part is about to begin.Ray Krause----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Tough choices
Original Posted By: Doug Dever
Okay, just got my plans and was anxious to start building the ribs. I "archived"ribs and found that there has been much discussion on 612, 613.5 and the original.If I told you I was going to go the ww corvair route what is the generalthoughts of which rib to build? Decisions, decisions!--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Okay, just got my plans and was anxious to start building the ribs. I "archived"ribs and found that there has been much discussion on 612, 613.5 and the original.If I told you I was going to go the ww corvair route what is the generalthoughts of which rib to build? Decisions, decisions!--------JohnRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Original Posted By: "ldmill"
Is Markle listening? You know he is. Ha ha! I had a great time seeing you, Jim and Coy too. Tyler had a great time at Markle'sdriving that 1949 Ford 8N around... and playing with his chickens and stufftoo. We are looking forward to seeing the Markle clan in a couple of weeksfor the 4th of July extravaganza. Ought to be fun. Hey, no pressure on the build (how much "serious money" are we talking about John?)...I won't say that the wings were easy, but it was basically just a bunchof the same steps over and over and over and, well, you get the point... lotsof little pieces, just a matter of mixing enough glue. I am studying the centersection now... not as easy as it looks at first glance. Definitely an orderto follow, not to mention that I hope to duplicate Mike Cuy's design and thattake a little more thought. Don't worry Jim, I've got a long way to go, butI still look forward to joining up on your wing some morning as the sun breaksover the trees and we point the props towards a stack of pancakes. Perhapsif you clean that shop a little you could find your airplane. Yeah, I know,that was bad... had to do it. Hey, the important thing is that you found a coolerfull of beer. John (or anyone else)... you give a holler any time you are in this neck of thewoods and we'll ice the beer and fire up the coals. I sure did enjoy your visit...kind of a Brodhead pre-game... we are ready for July!--------Mark ChouinardFinishing up Wings - Working on Center SectionRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Is Markle listening? You know he is. Ha ha! I had a great time seeing you, Jim and Coy too. Tyler had a great time at Markle'sdriving that 1949 Ford 8N around... and playing with his chickens and stufftoo. We are looking forward to seeing the Markle clan in a couple of weeksfor the 4th of July extravaganza. Ought to be fun. Hey, no pressure on the build (how much "serious money" are we talking about John?)...I won't say that the wings were easy, but it was basically just a bunchof the same steps over and over and over and, well, you get the point... lotsof little pieces, just a matter of mixing enough glue. I am studying the centersection now... not as easy as it looks at first glance. Definitely an orderto follow, not to mention that I hope to duplicate Mike Cuy's design and thattake a little more thought. Don't worry Jim, I've got a long way to go, butI still look forward to joining up on your wing some morning as the sun breaksover the trees and we point the props towards a stack of pancakes. Perhapsif you clean that shop a little you could find your airplane. Yeah, I know,that was bad... had to do it. Hey, the important thing is that you found a coolerfull of beer. John (or anyone else)... you give a holler any time you are in this neck of thewoods and we'll ice the beer and fire up the coals. I sure did enjoy your visit...kind of a Brodhead pre-game... we are ready for July!--------Mark ChouinardFinishing up Wings - Working on Center SectionRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Pietenpol-List: Re: Perseverance.Patience.Cutting Tools
Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
yea right... I've been married waaaay too long to try and bs my way out of situationslike that. I learned about that when trying to justify the 1972 Opel GTshe found stashed in the shed where the lawn mowers were... thought I was safeon that one cause she refused to mow the yard...--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Perseverance.Patience.Cutting Tools
yea right... I've been married waaaay too long to try and bs my way out of situationslike that. I learned about that when trying to justify the 1972 Opel GTshe found stashed in the shed where the lawn mowers were... thought I was safeon that one cause she refused to mow the yard...--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Perseverance.Patience.Cutting Tools
Original Posted By: Doug Dever
I sometimes use a hobby knife to score a mark instead of a pencil. That will takecare of splintering on one side of the sawblade. Back when building homes thoseveneer doors had to be cut off an inch or so to clear the carpet....thatis the way I did it.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs and tailfeathers doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I sometimes use a hobby knife to score a mark instead of a pencil. That will takecare of splintering on one side of the sawblade. Back when building homes thoseveneer doors had to be cut off an inch or so to clear the carpet....thatis the way I did it.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009Ribs and tailfeathers doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Original Posted By: "ldmill"
Sounds like you're ready to take to the air. It won't be long now!PS, I added the obligatory leather patches to the leading edges of my horizontalstabilizer after I had been flying it quite some time. One day while drivingto the airport I saw an old black shoe laying by the side of the road. I stoppedto check it out and it was leather and had some sections that were stillin very good condition so I picked it up and cut some nice patches out of itwith my pinking shears and glued them to the leading edges with contact cementright where the cables had been touching. Worked great and looks very professional;o)--------Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXAir Camper NX41CCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Sounds like you're ready to take to the air. It won't be long now!PS, I added the obligatory leather patches to the leading edges of my horizontalstabilizer after I had been flying it quite some time. One day while drivingto the airport I saw an old black shoe laying by the side of the road. I stoppedto check it out and it was leather and had some sections that were stillin very good condition so I picked it up and cut some nice patches out of itwith my pinking shears and glued them to the leading edges with contact cementright where the cables had been touching. Worked great and looks very professional;o)--------Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXAir Camper NX41CCRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Officially joined the "Oh sh$#@!" club tonight...
Original Posted By: "wayne(at)taildraggersinc.com"
Okay, I spent almost 2 hours last evening doing nothing but full stop landings.Lesson learned for me - I work best doing wheel landings on concrete keepinga tad bit of throttle on till tires are on the ground. Once the tail drops tothe ground - no rudder authority, only the tailwheel and brakes to keep her straight.Amazing, after more than a dozen full stop landings with nary a glitch, I wentback to the hanger - most of the same story tellers were around - but it appearedthat nobody was even watching...As I'm feeling this plane out, getting a better idea of performance. With the climbprop on, she gets to pattern altitude pretty quick. That being said - cruiseat 2350 rpm gives me an indicated airspeed of 83-85 mph. WOT shows a littleover 90 and 2550 rpm. I like this Continental A-75! Fresh overhall two yearsago, 50 hours on it now, and compressions are testing at 78/80 across the board.--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:44:42 -0400
Okay, I spent almost 2 hours last evening doing nothing but full stop landings.Lesson learned for me - I work best doing wheel landings on concrete keepinga tad bit of throttle on till tires are on the ground. Once the tail drops tothe ground - no rudder authority, only the tailwheel and brakes to keep her straight.Amazing, after more than a dozen full stop landings with nary a glitch, I wentback to the hanger - most of the same story tellers were around - but it appearedthat nobody was even watching...As I'm feeling this plane out, getting a better idea of performance. With the climbprop on, she gets to pattern altitude pretty quick. That being said - cruiseat 2350 rpm gives me an indicated airspeed of 83-85 mph. WOT shows a littleover 90 and 2550 rpm. I like this Continental A-75! Fresh overhall two yearsago, 50 hours on it now, and compressions are testing at 78/80 across the board.--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:44:42 -0400