Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
For what it's worth: my insurance company required 25 hours total in a Piet and10 hours with a CFI in a piet (or something along those lines - don't rememberexactly) for 1st flight coverage. I told her that was impossible. She apologizedand told me that's the way it was. I asked how many hours I needed beforeI checked back. She said 25. I called back when I had 50 hours and theyinsured me. I "self-insured" up to that point. The only reason I have insurance is to fly Young Eagles. Liability only.--------Kevin PurteeNX899KPAustin/Georgetown, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lycoming O-235 about ready
Pietenpol-List: Lycoming O-235 about ready
Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
My engine is almost ready to run. Several loose ends on it yet. I just hung themags and valve covers on it. I have been working on that thing for a month now.I got the wrong main bearings and had to exchange them but that didn't reallycost much time. I got my prop from Jay Anderson and it looks real good. Nowif I just had an airplane to hang all this stuff on............--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/o_23 ... ______Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:01:02 -0400
My engine is almost ready to run. Several loose ends on it yet. I just hung themags and valve covers on it. I have been working on that thing for a month now.I got the wrong main bearings and had to exchange them but that didn't reallycost much time. I got my prop from Jay Anderson and it looks real good. Nowif I just had an airplane to hang all this stuff on............--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers doneusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/o_23 ... ______Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:01:02 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Lycoming O-235 about ready
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Mark,I got my insurance through the EAA guys (Falcon). The requirements for me wereas follows: TW endorsement, 10hrs dual with a CFI in my aircraft (type mightbe acceptable, too), 10hrs solo in my aircraft, then I could take passengers.You, the CFI, and the plane are all covered during the period. Things have changed in the industry since the failure of the banks and bailoutof AIG. Dan-- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:01 PM, K5YAC wrote:> > I am a long way from transitioning to flight in my Piet, but I'm curious aboutthe need or requirements for transition training. I know that each insurancecompany is probably a little different on their requirements for coverage, buta friend of mine just finished his Zenair 640 and was surprised to learn thatthis particular agency (through the EAA) was requiring 5 hours of time in MAKE(not type) with a factory rep, and a signoff from the rep. He asked, "Can'tI just fly with a CFI in a Cherokee 180, or something similar?" They saidnope, it has to be in something that Zenair manufactured... either a 750, 601,etc. He said, "What? Those airplanes aren't even similar to what I'll be flying."They didn't seem to care, Factory airplane and factory rep. signoff...those are the criteria. He asked when this became a requirement and was toldthat it is becoming widely accepted practice with the insurance companies.
> > I started thinking... how in the world would I find someone who could be consideredto be the Pietenpol manufacturer? Even if I could, I am unable to ridein the front seat of one of these birds... how would I receive training or asign off? What about a Cassut or a Fly Baby? How does someone even get trainingin those types? Is my friend being misinformed? Surely there is some latitude,or similar training that would allow one to fly their new machine? > > This friend is somewhat well off with a nicely build airplane and 450+ hours.If it is this difficult for him, I dreading the day the I make the same call.> > --------> Mark Chouinard> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage> > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lycoming O-235 about ready
Mark,I got my insurance through the EAA guys (Falcon). The requirements for me wereas follows: TW endorsement, 10hrs dual with a CFI in my aircraft (type mightbe acceptable, too), 10hrs solo in my aircraft, then I could take passengers.You, the CFI, and the plane are all covered during the period. Things have changed in the industry since the failure of the banks and bailoutof AIG. Dan-- Dan Yocumyocum137(at)gmail.com"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:01 PM, K5YAC wrote:> > I am a long way from transitioning to flight in my Piet, but I'm curious aboutthe need or requirements for transition training. I know that each insurancecompany is probably a little different on their requirements for coverage, buta friend of mine just finished his Zenair 640 and was surprised to learn thatthis particular agency (through the EAA) was requiring 5 hours of time in MAKE(not type) with a factory rep, and a signoff from the rep. He asked, "Can'tI just fly with a CFI in a Cherokee 180, or something similar?" They saidnope, it has to be in something that Zenair manufactured... either a 750, 601,etc. He said, "What? Those airplanes aren't even similar to what I'll be flying."They didn't seem to care, Factory airplane and factory rep. signoff...those are the criteria. He asked when this became a requirement and was toldthat it is becoming widely accepted practice with the insurance companies.
> > I started thinking... how in the world would I find someone who could be consideredto be the Pietenpol manufacturer? Even if I could, I am unable to ridein the front seat of one of these birds... how would I receive training or asign off? What about a Cassut or a Fly Baby? How does someone even get trainingin those types? Is my friend being misinformed? Surely there is some latitude,or similar training that would allow one to fly their new machine? > > This friend is somewhat well off with a nicely build airplane and 450+ hours.If it is this difficult for him, I dreading the day the I make the same call.> > --------> Mark Chouinard> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage> > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Lycoming O-235 about ready