Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Whether your plane is kept inside or not, I'd still advise lubricating the cables.My motorcycle lives in a nice warm garage whenever it's not being ridden,and I still lube the cables every year. Last thing I want is a throttle stickingor a clutch that won't disengage while I'm out riding. Could lead to anunhappy ending for the day which could have been avoided by 5 or 10 minutes worthof preventative maintenance.If you ever fly from a dew-covered grass strip early in the morning (or a pavedstrip after a rain), you will get some water slinging up from your wheels, andthat water could potentially get to the brake cables. It doesn't take longto lube the cables, and it's well worth the time and effort to do so in my opinion.--------Billy McCaskillUrbana, ILtail section almost done, starting on ribs soonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pilot Height
Pietenpol-List: Pilot Height
Re: Pietenpol-List: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Just a thought on staples... Since epoxy won't stick to duct tape (the outsideof it) how about folding a strip of duct tape (sticky side together) and staplingthrough it? When the glue is cured it would make pulling the staples easier...--------Brad "DOMIT" SmithFirst rule of ground school: This is the ground... don't hit it going fast.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:46:39 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pilot Height
Just a thought on staples... Since epoxy won't stick to duct tape (the outsideof it) how about folding a strip of duct tape (sticky side together) and staplingthrough it? When the glue is cured it would make pulling the staples easier...--------Brad "DOMIT" SmithFirst rule of ground school: This is the ground... don't hit it going fast.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:46:39 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
Well... the fuse is built as per the plans. I was advised NOT to go changing thedimensions as it would just cause issues elsewhere. I can see how bendinga slightly deeper curve in the lower longerons at the rear seat might have helped,and probably wouldn't have caused much of an issue, but it is what it is...and I'm going to fly it. I just hope she is the gentle flier that everyonedescribes. Surely I'm not the first tall guy to try this... still waiting to hear from others.I know that I asked a similar question back when I first started buildingand nothing scared me off... I'm going to go look for that thread.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Well... the fuse is built as per the plans. I was advised NOT to go changing thedimensions as it would just cause issues elsewhere. I can see how bendinga slightly deeper curve in the lower longerons at the rear seat might have helped,and probably wouldn't have caused much of an issue, but it is what it is...and I'm going to fly it. I just hope she is the gentle flier that everyonedescribes. Surely I'm not the first tall guy to try this... still waiting to hear from others.I know that I asked a similar question back when I first started buildingand nothing scared me off... I'm going to go look for that thread.--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Just build it, Mark. You'll be fine.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Just build it, Mark. You'll be fine.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot HeightHow many Piets have you tried on at Brodhead Mark ?I'd side with Jack-- but build the long fuselage for your longer legs like youand Jack haveplus the instrument panel won't be smack-dab in front of you like the short fuselagefeels at first...butI got used to that in a hurry. I'm fine in the short fuselage version at 5' 9 1/2" tall. Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot HeightHow many Piets have you tried on at Brodhead Mark ?I'd side with Jack-- but build the long fuselage for your longer legs like youand Jack haveplus the instrument panel won't be smack-dab in front of you like the short fuselagefeels at first...butI got used to that in a hurry. I'm fine in the short fuselage version at 5' 9 1/2" tall. Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Thank you guys. I emailed Russ at D & G and he confirmed it can be converted soI will buy it! One more piece to the Corvair puzzle!Thanks guys!Scotty--------ScottyTamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Thank you guys. I emailed Russ at D & G and he confirmed it can be converted soI will buy it! One more piece to the Corvair puzzle!Thanks guys!Scotty--------ScottyTamworth, AustraliaBuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camperwww.scottyspietenpol.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: SENTUCHOWS(at)aol.com
Hey Mark...You really should have gotten yourself in mine. It's all in the technique. I'm6'3" long. I built it to the plans and I fit great. However, I've flown AllenRudolph's old Piet and had a little trouble. It has the shorter fuselageand my shins got a little marked up. As long as you are building the long fuselageyou'll be fine. As far as interference with the rudder, hmm...I think thatradiator up front on the Ford ships would be a problem long before a tallerhead would be. Never heard of a problem there, so... I sure wouldn't be worriedabout it. If you have any doubts you just need to meet Big Jim Vandervort!He would make you feel at ease!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hey Mark...You really should have gotten yourself in mine. It's all in the technique. I'm6'3" long. I built it to the plans and I fit great. However, I've flown AllenRudolph's old Piet and had a little trouble. It has the shorter fuselageand my shins got a little marked up. As long as you are building the long fuselageyou'll be fine. As far as interference with the rudder, hmm...I think thatradiator up front on the Ford ships would be a problem long before a tallerhead would be. Never heard of a problem there, so... I sure wouldn't be worriedabout it. If you have any doubts you just need to meet Big Jim Vandervort!He would make you feel at ease!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Richard's Piet on wire wheels for first time in his shopin IndianaOutstanding to see you're great winter progress and the photo update of your PietenpolRick ! Your wire wheels look great, yourlanding gear legs nice and streamlined and nose fuel tank all strapped down inplace. Center section done and tailfeathers. Sure looks inspiring to those of us who are flying, those who are still building,and even to those who have JUST started building. You've stuck in out year after year and keep plugging away and the fruits of yourlabor are really, really starting to show nicely. One you move your project to the hangar this spring expect lots and lots of curiousvisitors and be ready to answer a myriad of questions--but you'll enjoy it. Just tell them before you will answer any questionthey must bring a donation to help keep yourhangar fridge stocked with refreshments:) Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Richard's Piet on wire wheels for first time in his shopin IndianaOutstanding to see you're great winter progress and the photo update of your PietenpolRick ! Your wire wheels look great, yourlanding gear legs nice and streamlined and nose fuel tank all strapped down inplace. Center section done and tailfeathers. Sure looks inspiring to those of us who are flying, those who are still building,and even to those who have JUST started building. You've stuck in out year after year and keep plugging away and the fruits of yourlabor are really, really starting to show nicely. One you move your project to the hangar this spring expect lots and lots of curiousvisitors and be ready to answer a myriad of questions--but you'll enjoy it. Just tell them before you will answer any questionthey must bring a donation to help keep yourhangar fridge stocked with refreshments:) Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
Yep, grandpa "big Jim Vandervort is 6' 6" and he flew all the time, no wing flapeither, I'll check the plans and measure the cabanes tomorrow to see if theyare any longer then the plans Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2011, at 11:22 AM, "Don Emch" wrote:> > Hey Mark...> You really should have gotten yourself in mine. It's all in the technique. I'm 6'3" long. I built it to the plans and I fit great. However, I've flownAllen Rudolph's old Piet and had a little trouble. It has the shorter fuselageand my shins got a little marked up. As long as you are building the long fuselageyou'll be fine. As far as interference with the rudder, hmm...I thinkthat radiator up front on the Ford ships would be a problem long before a tallerhead would be. Never heard of a problem there, so... I sure wouldn't be worriedabout it. If you have any doubts you just need to meet Big Jim Vandervort!He would make you feel at ease!> > Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 888#330888> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Yep, grandpa "big Jim Vandervort is 6' 6" and he flew all the time, no wing flapeither, I'll check the plans and measure the cabanes tomorrow to see if theyare any longer then the plans Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2011, at 11:22 AM, "Don Emch" wrote:> > Hey Mark...> You really should have gotten yourself in mine. It's all in the technique. I'm 6'3" long. I built it to the plans and I fit great. However, I've flownAllen Rudolph's old Piet and had a little trouble. It has the shorter fuselageand my shins got a little marked up. As long as you are building the long fuselageyou'll be fine. As far as interference with the rudder, hmm...I thinkthat radiator up front on the Ford ships would be a problem long before a tallerhead would be. Never heard of a problem there, so... I sure wouldn't be worriedabout it. If you have any doubts you just need to meet Big Jim Vandervort!He would make you feel at ease!> > Don Emch> NX899DE> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 888#330888> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: "aerocarjake"
Jack,I LOVE IT.... I had a Thimble-Drome gas car when I was little. I parted with itfor a tidy sum on eBay about 12 years ago to pay my mortgage while I was laidoff. No regrets, it's all just stuff we own while we're visiting this planet.Now I get to own a Pietenpol for a while... :-)Thanks for sharing...!Jake--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Jack,I LOVE IT.... I had a Thimble-Drome gas car when I was little. I parted with itfor a tidy sum on eBay about 12 years ago to pay my mortgage while I was laidoff. No regrets, it's all just stuff we own while we're visiting this planet.Now I get to own a Pietenpol for a while... :-)Thanks for sharing...!Jake--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: Kimball Isaac
I posted a separate topic (making airplane sounds) and from the photo you can getsome idea of how well I fit. Mine is the Flying and Glider manual dimensions(steel tube but short fuselage) and I leaned the seat back to the bar 3 inchesaft of the top of the pilot seat. I also made my fuselage 2 inches widerand that made a BIG differencei in shin clearance...... I am 6 foot 1 inch inthe photo.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:34:45 -0800Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
I posted a separate topic (making airplane sounds) and from the photo you can getsome idea of how well I fit. Mine is the Flying and Glider manual dimensions(steel tube but short fuselage) and I leaned the seat back to the bar 3 inchesaft of the top of the pilot seat. I also made my fuselage 2 inches widerand that made a BIG differencei in shin clearance...... I am 6 foot 1 inch inthe photo.--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:34:45 -0800Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: "VanDy"
Reduced price to $650, well less than half what this cost new, and it is nearly in new condition:http://www.wotelectronics.com/propeller/Made by Prince Aircrafthttp://www.princeaircraft.com/They have a file on this propeller and can answer questions if needed. 68 x 42 (diameter x pitch). Wood Q-tip propeller, custom made for Continental A-75. Roughly 200hrs. Turns roughly 2,500 static RPM on my A-75. Good condition, a couple of minor nicks that could be painted (less than 1/4"). These props are wood, epoxy coated, with a small amount of fiberglass used to create the curved tip.Reduced price to $650 plus shipping. New these are more than double that amount.Steve RuseNorman, OK________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Reduced price to $650, well less than half what this cost new, and it is nearly in new condition:http://www.wotelectronics.com/propeller/Made by Prince Aircrafthttp://www.princeaircraft.com/They have a file on this propeller and can answer questions if needed. 68 x 42 (diameter x pitch). Wood Q-tip propeller, custom made for Continental A-75. Roughly 200hrs. Turns roughly 2,500 static RPM on my A-75. Good condition, a couple of minor nicks that could be painted (less than 1/4"). These props are wood, epoxy coated, with a small amount of fiberglass used to create the curved tip.Reduced price to $650 plus shipping. New these are more than double that amount.Steve RuseNorman, OK________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I just measured the length of the cabanes, and it came to 25.25, and from whati hear, Bernard said that +6 inches is the maximum alllowed. And I also knowthat grandpas Piet, had the wing 6" back, which helped his 275 lb CG but as anadded bonus kept the rain off the wing out of the cockpit!!but your result may vary!im trying to add a pic from the 1989 Pietenpol flyin at Brodhead!--------www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
I just measured the length of the cabanes, and it came to 25.25, and from whati hear, Bernard said that +6 inches is the maximum alllowed. And I also knowthat grandpas Piet, had the wing 6" back, which helped his 275 lb CG but as anadded bonus kept the rain off the wing out of the cockpit!!but your result may vary!im trying to add a pic from the 1989 Pietenpol flyin at Brodhead!--------www.vansaviation.com follow my Piet rebuild there!almost dissasembled, getting ready to order all AN hardware and SS cableRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Re: Pietenpol-List: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
>> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in>> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them>> >> > to an>> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He owns>> >> > a>> >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for his>> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!>> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to>> >> > perfection!">> >>>> >>>> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings,>> >> cabane>> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue about>> >> 1/2">> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made to>> >> the>> >> plans can create minor clearance issues.>> >>>> >>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?>> >>>> >>>> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this forum>> >> for>> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build time,>> >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an online>> >> version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and>> >> will>> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to>> >> see>> >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.>> >>>> >> -------->> >> Mark Chouinard>> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Read this topic online here:>> >>>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > >======================>> > &g===================>> >>>> >&=====>> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">> target="_blank">ht======>> http://forums.mle, List Admin.>> ====>>>>>>>>============================================>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:11:54 -0800Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pilot Height
>> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in>> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them>> >> > to an>> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He owns>> >> > a>> >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for his>> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!>> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to>> >> > perfection!">> >>>> >>>> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings,>> >> cabane>> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue about>> >> 1/2">> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made to>> >> the>> >> plans can create minor clearance issues.>> >>>> >>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?>> >>>> >>>> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this forum>> >> for>> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build time,>> >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an online>> >> version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and>> >> will>> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to>> >> see>> >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.>> >>>> >> -------->> >> Mark Chouinard>> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Read this topic online here:>> >>>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > >======================>> > &g===================>> >>>> >&=====>> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">> target="_blank">ht======>> http://forums.mle, List Admin.>> ====>>>>>>>>============================================>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:11:54 -0800Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pilot Height
Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
> >> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in> >> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them> >> >> > to an> >> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He> owns> >> >> > a> >> >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for his> >> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!> >> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to> >> >> > perfection!"> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings,> >> >> cabane> >> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue> about> >> >> 1/2"> >> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made> to> >> >> the> >> >> plans can create minor clearance issues.> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this> forum> >> >> for> >> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build> time,> >> >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an> online> >> >> version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and> >> >> will> >> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want> to> >> >> see> >> >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.> >> >>> >> >> --------> >> >> Mark Chouinard> >> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Read this topic online here:> >> >>> >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >======================> >> > &g===================> >> >>> >> >&=====> >> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,> >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"> >> target="_blank">ht======> >> http://forums.mle, List Admin.> >> ====> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ===========> ===========> ===========> ===========> >> >>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height
> >> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in> >> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them> >> >> > to an> >> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He> owns> >> >> > a> >> >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for his> >> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!> >> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to> >> >> > perfection!"> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings,> >> >> cabane> >> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue> about> >> >> 1/2"> >> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made> to> >> >> the> >> >> plans can create minor clearance issues.> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this> forum> >> >> for> >> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build> time,> >> >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an> online> >> >> version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and> >> >> will> >> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want> to> >> >> see> >> >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.> >> >>> >> >> --------> >> >> Mark Chouinard> >> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Read this topic online here:> >> >>> >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >======================> >> > &g===================> >> >>> >> >&=====> >> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,> >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"> >> target="_blank">ht======> >> http://forums.mle, List Admin.> >> ====> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ===========> ===========> ===========> ===========> >> >>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pilot Height