Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed
Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder bar and forward controls
Original Posted By: "Charles Campbell"
>One quick comment to Michael regarding the rudder bar.You write that you used "standard tubing - .035" wall SS".Just be aware that stainless steel tubing typically has only half the Yield Strength of 4130 - and in this case, the plans specifically mention to use chro-moly tubing for the rudder bar.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 5#332335le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________
>One quick comment to Michael regarding the rudder bar.You write that you used "standard tubing - .035" wall SS".Just be aware that stainless steel tubing typically has only half the Yield Strength of 4130 - and in this case, the plans specifically mention to use chro-moly tubing for the rudder bar.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 5#332335le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Centerburg OH, Piet Fly-In
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ah, the fly-in season is getting started. In anticipation of this we justheld "Brodhead South" this past weekend. No flying, just friends,fellowship and flatulence. Ryan Mueller, John Hofmann, Bill Church, GeneRambo, Rob Busch and Mike Cuy invaded my home in North Carolina. BySaturday morning my wife had had enough and we were forced to adjourn to myhangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia. At least there we could look at myPietenpol, but it was just a bit too cold to fly it (temps were only in theupper 50's). However we did eat the requisite meal of bratwursts (thanks toJohn shipping sausages down from Wisconsin) around the Pietenpol, and madeplans for Brodhead 2011.A good time was had by all.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC _____
Ah, the fly-in season is getting started. In anticipation of this we justheld "Brodhead South" this past weekend. No flying, just friends,fellowship and flatulence. Ryan Mueller, John Hofmann, Bill Church, GeneRambo, Rob Busch and Mike Cuy invaded my home in North Carolina. BySaturday morning my wife had had enough and we were forced to adjourn to myhangar at Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia. At least there we could look at myPietenpol, but it was just a bit too cold to fly it (temps were only in theupper 50's). However we did eat the requisite meal of bratwursts (thanks toJohn shipping sausages down from Wisconsin) around the Pietenpol, and madeplans for Brodhead 2011.A good time was had by all.Jack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea?
Original Posted By: "bender"
Tisk, Tisk.What would Bernard say!!???________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea?
Tisk, Tisk.What would Bernard say!!???________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea?
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Hey Dan ... do you have the FSI ignition parts in there ??they say it will work on 6-16 volts.. i can't imagine the current draw being veryhigh myself but i see this as a good backup...Maybe a good primary ignition with more of a power source.. wind or engine generator..i noticed the spark advance is wired in place...i can see another lever in thecockpit.... folks today don't get iti leave the keys in my 30 AA all the time.. only old guys know how to start it...fuelon... retard spark...open throttle..choke..step on the right button...funto drive but you gotta know howjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aa_1 ... ______Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:27:26 -0800 (PST)
Hey Dan ... do you have the FSI ignition parts in there ??they say it will work on 6-16 volts.. i can't imagine the current draw being veryhigh myself but i see this as a good backup...Maybe a good primary ignition with more of a power source.. wind or engine generator..i noticed the spark advance is wired in place...i can see another lever in thecockpit.... folks today don't get iti leave the keys in my 30 AA all the time.. only old guys know how to start it...fuelon... retard spark...open throttle..choke..step on the right button...funto drive but you gotta know howjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aa_1 ... ______Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:27:26 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Charles,It is not widely known, But GHW Bush was NOT the youngest WWII naval aviator. It is in fact my neighbor (still going strong) Capt. Chuck Downey of Poplar Grove, IL. http://www.meyersaircraftowners.org/ind ... owall=1Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:40:45 -0800 (PST)
Charles,It is not widely known, But GHW Bush was NOT the youngest WWII naval aviator. It is in fact my neighbor (still going strong) Capt. Chuck Downey of Poplar Grove, IL. http://www.meyersaircraftowners.org/ind ... owall=1Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:40:45 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Last WWI US Vet has passed
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Yeah, someone else told me about Mr. Downey. Hadn't heard of him before. Nice writeup even though there are some mistakes. Oh well, maybe his memory is getting a little fuzzy -- like mine! ----- Original Message -----
Yeah, someone else told me about Mr. Downey. Hadn't heard of him before. Nice writeup even though there are some mistakes. Oh well, maybe his memory is getting a little fuzzy -- like mine! ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea?
Original Posted By: "DOMIT"
Actually, the stresses induced on the rudder bar from the rudder are almost inconsequential.Since the ends of the rudder bar are only connected to the rudderby means of cables (if built to the plans), then only one end of the rudderbar (the end that is pulling on the rudder) can be loaded at a time (you can'tpush a rope).What you need to be aware of is the potential for the pilot to bend the rudderbar, by inadvertently pushing with both feet. The pilot will undoubtedly haveboth feet pressing against the rudder bar at all times, and a bit of uncoordinatedfootwork, or panic can result in an excessive amount of pushing on both sidesof the rudder bar at the same time.Probably what you should do is take a scrap piece of the tubing you're using, thesame length as the rudder bar, and duplicate the center pivot arrangement,and secure this bar to something solid. Then position yourself in a well securedseat located at the proper distance from the rudder bar, and see how difficultit is to bend the sample rudder bar. You may be surprised how little forceit takes to bend the tube.There are very few metal parts in the plans that actually call for cro-moly steel,but the rudder bar is one. Methinks it is specified that way for a reason.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea?
Actually, the stresses induced on the rudder bar from the rudder are almost inconsequential.Since the ends of the rudder bar are only connected to the rudderby means of cables (if built to the plans), then only one end of the rudderbar (the end that is pulling on the rudder) can be loaded at a time (you can'tpush a rope).What you need to be aware of is the potential for the pilot to bend the rudderbar, by inadvertently pushing with both feet. The pilot will undoubtedly haveboth feet pressing against the rudder bar at all times, and a bit of uncoordinatedfootwork, or panic can result in an excessive amount of pushing on both sidesof the rudder bar at the same time.Probably what you should do is take a scrap piece of the tubing you're using, thesame length as the rudder bar, and duplicate the center pivot arrangement,and secure this bar to something solid. Then position yourself in a well securedseat located at the proper distance from the rudder bar, and see how difficultit is to bend the sample rudder bar. You may be surprised how little forceit takes to bend the tube.There are very few metal parts in the plans that actually call for cro-moly steel,but the rudder bar is one. Methinks it is specified that way for a reason.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Slow list day.........How about this idea?
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
You know, "what would Bernard say" always comes up.He used the materials and methods commonly available to him... converted 2 differentauto engines when they were relatively new to the market...He was an innovator. I don't think he would exactly be one to frown on innovation...--------Brad "DOMIT" SmithFirst rule of ground school: This is the ground... don't hit it going fast.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:17:35 -0800 (PST)
You know, "what would Bernard say" always comes up.He used the materials and methods commonly available to him... converted 2 differentauto engines when they were relatively new to the market...He was an innovator. I don't think he would exactly be one to frown on innovation...--------Brad "DOMIT" SmithFirst rule of ground school: This is the ground... don't hit it going fast.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:17:35 -0800 (PST)