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Original Posted By: Mark Blackwell
MarkI see the point you are getting to, however, tanks that have the pickup on thetop will have a tube that goes down to the bottom of the tank internally. If theline is ruptured the whole tank wont drain instantly and how does that getyou closer to the runway? Don't get me wrong, these are all worthwile thingsto discuss.As for the point on condensation in the tank, a point well taken, just yesterdayi finished a complete going over of my entire fuel system that included removingthe main wing tank, cleaning installing finger strainer, replacing the fuelline to the nose header tank, cleaning out the header tank, removing and cleaningthe cascolator and carb bowl. I take the annual inspection seriously forfuel. It probably causes more engine failures than anything in flight.Dick N.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts?

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Original Posted By: "Dick Navratil"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts?In a message dated 4/10/2006 8:07:03 AM Central Standard Time, hvandervoo(at)aol.com writes:Keep in mind that engine vibration can be much more harmful than a plain static load.Engine mount should be inspected every change you get, I inspect it every time I have the cowling off.Another tip, paint the motor mount white, if a welding crack develops it will show better.Good advise here. I have a big magnifying glass that use to inspect my white engine mount, whenever I have the cowl off. Keep in mind, the white paint should be a very HARD Non-Flexible paint, when cured. If it is a flexible paint, it will streach over a crack, and the crack will never show up. If youhave ever seen paint in the welded area of crane type equipment that has required periodic inspection (sometimes it is silver), it is called 'Crack Paint'.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg Carb

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Original Posted By: Kenneth M. Heide
Will Wynne is probably at Sun n Fun this week and out of touch. It started onthe 3rd and goes for another day or two.Dick ----- Original Message -----
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Pietenpol-List: Stromberg Carb

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Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Ken asked->Can anyone tell me if I should jet and resize the venturi according to>the engine displacement? I was informed to jet the carb and replace>the venturi for the engine HP when rebuilding the carb.Well, you can check page 15 of the following .pdf file to see how the jetting and venturi on that carb were done on the small Continentals:http://www.aeronca.com/ServiceLetters/c ... 16.pdfNote that the larger venturi was used on the larger engines. The C-85 is a 188 cu. in. engine rated at a nominal 85 HP. Also, from William's FlyCorvair Q&A page: "In the interest of more power, I would suggest the larger 1 3/8" Stromberg venturi. The smaller one is effectively limited to 85 or 90hp on a Corvair." I don't believe the jetting will change.Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:13:27 -0400
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts?

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Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stress testing Corvair motor mounts?In a message dated 4/11/2006 3:17:55 PM Central Standard Time, bcharvet(at)bellsouth.net writes:I used a 2 part automotive type paint that hardens enough that you can color sand it and buff it out if you want. Hopefully that is hard enough. II believe Ben is correct, in that automotive epoxy paint is a Hard paint. Wouldn't be a good choice for a fabric airplane, unless a flex agent is used with it. I think the best way is to experiment with the paint you are planningon using, by painting a piece of sheet metal, and when it is cured, bend it and see if the paint cracks. Maybe someone else has done this research, or knows what type paint they use on the welds of crane equipment. (crack paint)Chuck G.Home Pietenpol NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Stromberg Carb

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Original Posted By: "Piet2112"
nice..! i'll toss em up you can knock em out Bill....i just walked out and looked... i think it may be better to add a spacer.... justabout a 1/6 and not shave... it looks like it would hit both gearsmy thought of dishing would make it hard to line up with the bottom piece on theoil panjeffi like double edge myselfRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg Carb
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Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
Does anyone know where to find any information on a NA-S3 (/B stamped)carburetor. The Upper Throttle Body has the NA-S3/B and the Main Bodyhas a parts list number of 380167-3.I have found lots of information for the NA-S3A1 carb like the OverhaulManual, Parts Manuals, but I cannot figure out what the difference isbetween the /B and the A1.I'm disassembling it to find out the venturi and jet sizes to make sure theyare correct for the C85.Don't worry Gary, If Jack replies today, It will be Corvair friendly.Thanks Y'all,Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:57:38 -0500
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Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
Jim,I hope to be there. The weather against the mountains is always iffy that timeof year. Last year was blowing 25 gusting to 30 knots when I left Fox Field.Thanks for the birthday wishes.Hope to see you in June.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago.....my DVD is again available

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Subject: Pietenpol-List: I announced a while ago.....my DVD is again availableI am back in FULL DVD production with a new DVD recorder. Sorry you missed that note Tom so Infidels, Countrymen, and fellow Pieters (as Corky calls us) can obtain one of my 2.5 hour DVD's for $25 which includes Priority Mail shipping. No Paypal. Checks, cash, money orders, first borns......only if I get the income tax deduction and you raise the child.Michael Cuy, PO Box 736, Berea, OH 44017Caution: This DVD may induce sleepiness, drowsiness to self or others nearby while viewing. Do not operate machinery, hand tools, or drive while watching this video. May induce nausea, cramping, gas, stomach upset, pregnancy, or bowel irritability.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: I announced a while ago.....my DVD is again available
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Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]"
Caution: This DVD may induce progress, motivation, inspiration, ah-ha's, smiles,and entertainment to self or others nearby while viewing. Do not forget to continue to operate machinery, hand tools, or shop equipment whilewatching this video. (Otherwise delays in Pietenpol progress are not theresponsibility of the film maker...)May induce project completion, pride, craftsmanship, and camaraderie...--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg Carb

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Original Posted By: "bradandlinda tds.net"
And while this thread has some lift left to it, I'll unashamedly pile-on to to do some self-promotion for myself, so I can selfishly profit from the momentum. My instructional prop-carving CD is still available from Aircraft Spruce http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/b ... arving.php. This must be a good, professional product, otherwise ACS would not be selling it, right?Dan HelsperPuryear, TN.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:29:43 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg Carb
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol

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Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
O'Keefe is owned by Molson now. I only drinkGranville Island Pale and a couple of other locals.Small family breweries that still have a real nameand face. So I'm not sure. My drinkin' buds don't drink iteither but they tell me they've seen it so I guessthe answer is yes. :-)Clif Cliff, I do not mean to get further off the topic, but do they still brew O'Keefe's Extra Old Stock? Joe Swithin, Morris, IL Just beginning wing ribs________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol
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Original Posted By: "Charles Campbell"
Shad I faced the same dilemma and embarked on a build your own aluminum tank. Ithas been a long process. I welded all the seams. Warped bad, but that's whathammers and oak blocks are for. I put the Wilson glove on it last night.--------Jerry Dotson59 Daniel Johnson RdBaker, FL 32531Started building NX510JD July, 2009wing, tailfeathers done, fuselage rollingusing Lycoming O-235Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Stromberg Carb

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Yeah! I'm planning to use an Aeroinjector, also. ----- Original Message -----
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol

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Original Posted By: "Jerry Dotson"
Jerry's post mentioning the O-235 made me remember to post the latest on "my" O-235. We decided yesterday that the engine is too old and probably cannot get parts for it and if the parts are available they would probably cost an arm and leg. It's a WW2 version (the engine - not my arm and leg. Although, come to think about it, my arms and legs are WW2 versions, also.) So I've decided to go a different route. Close your ears, Jack, probably a Corvair.----- Original Message -----
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol

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Original Posted By: shad bell
Shad, keep us posted on what you find out about the fiberglass/ethenol thing. I would be interested in finding out the answer to your question. Chuck ----- Original Message -----
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol

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Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
The weather should be good as long as you don't leave me in charge of it.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol
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Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Shad,Don't use fiberglass if you are planning on any auto gas. It will not be good.Dad has a glass tank in his KR-2 and while using auto gas the tank melted. Of coarse there were fumes in the cockpit first then came the leaks. It happenedto him twice. Mike Madrid also had it happen in his GN-1. He finally tookthe J-3 tank out of his Flybaby and put it in the Piet. A metal tank is theonly way to go if you are considering anything other then aircraft fuel. Rememberthat what ever replaces 100LL will need to be compatible with compositeairframes. There are too many production aircraft to do anything else. My nosetank is out of an Opal Kadet car and my center section tank is a Cessna 140wing tank. That gives me 22 gallons usable. My butt is not designed for thatmuch fuel, but it's nice to have it.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol

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I'll wait till tomorrow (when the moratorium is over) to replyJack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol

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GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GOCORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GOCORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GOCORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GOCORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GO CORVAIR! GOCORVAIR! GO CORVAIR!....Gary -----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: airlion
Gary,Is that the starting proceedure for the (what did you call it?) Corvair? I hadone once. It was a car. It didn't go fast enough to fly. Mostly just brokedown next to the highway. Hope yours runs better. All joking aside, There used to be a yellow Piet at Corona years ago with a Corvairin it. A gentleman named Alan owned and built it. That thing would outclimb my mine and sounded OK too. Alan moved to AZ when he retired and builtan "A" powered Piet. Now he has a pair of them. Lucky guy. Both of them builtto plans.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 06:29:59 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol

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Original Posted By: AircamperN11MS
Ha-ha! Don't encourage Jack! Hope mine runs better too...I'm betting my life onit!See you at Frazier Lake this year?Gary------Original Message------
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol

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Original Posted By: "carson"
I'll be there as long as the weather Gods are nice to me. It's possible that I'll bring friends with me to. They'll look like bugs in myteeth.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol
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Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Shad I have been tossing up about a fiberglass tank and think that I may go that way.A while ago I spoke to the people at the Jabaru factory in Bunderburg Australia all the Jab's have fiberglass tanks and a lot of people run them on unleaded,anywaythey use a sloshing compound in the tank that won't react withethenol.If you like I can call and get the name if you like CarsonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:19:02 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fiberglass fuel tanks and ethenol
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Stromberg Carb

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Original Posted By: Darrel Jones
Thanks Bill for the link. I haven't broken the carb down to check the jet or venturi size, but thisparticular one does have the mixture control like the NA-S3A1 has. I do like the simplicity of the Aeroinjector and the fact that it's cheaper thanoverhauling what I have. Once I disassemble the carb to inspect all the parts to see if and whatis serviceable, I'll decide if I'll use the Stromberg or an alternate.Curt MerdanFlower Mound, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:20:44 -0700
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