Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
RE: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: "Charles Campbell"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: airlion
Wow, what a mess! :(Not to make TOO light of the situation, but would that be a Pietenpile?I hope they are all repairable.--------Brad "DOMIT" SmithFirst rule of ground school: This is the ground... don't hit it going fast.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:10:55 -0700 (PDT)
Wow, what a mess! :(Not to make TOO light of the situation, but would that be a Pietenpile?I hope they are all repairable.--------Brad "DOMIT" SmithFirst rule of ground school: This is the ground... don't hit it going fast.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:10:55 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Pietenpol-List: Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
Hey allI hate to be the bearer of bad news from SnF, but I didnt see it posted by anyone else so here it is. There was a severe thundersorm that came thru SNF this morning. The campgrounds here are a mess. There were 3 Piets on the flight line that all were tossed into a pile. Photos later. Gardiner Masons piet and 2 big piets are all pretty much totaled out. All of us in the wood shop are fine. Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Hey allI hate to be the bearer of bad news from SnF, but I didnt see it posted by anyone else so here it is. There was a severe thundersorm that came thru SNF this morning. The campgrounds here are a mess. There were 3 Piets on the flight line that all were tossed into a pile. Photos later. Gardiner Masons piet and 2 big piets are all pretty much totaled out. All of us in the wood shop are fine. Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun
RE: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
After a day travelling in the mountains in Virginia with no internet, thiswas a horrible thing to wake up to. My heart goes out to all the pilots,especially our Pietenpol bunch. I'm just so glad no one was seriously hurt. _____
After a day travelling in the mountains in Virginia with no internet, thiswas a horrible thing to wake up to. My heart goes out to all the pilots,especially our Pietenpol bunch. I'm just so glad no one was seriously hurt. _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine advice
Original Posted By: hvandervoo(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine adviceCan anyone help me with this? I wanted to do something that would improve performancebut I did not want to spend too much money. It was recommended by a CessnaA&P to port and polish the intake and exhaust. We found out they used abrasivematerial to do it, like gritty sand. So I got with my Cessna A&P and we decidedto try it for ourselves. We got a bag of sandblasting sand and hooked upinto the intake and started the engine. We had to hold the throttle open soit would run. He wanted to let the engine suck in the sand through the intakeso it would port it out and then push it out the ehxaust so it would port theexhaust manifold. I was worried that it might cause problems but he figured it'dbe OK as long as we didn't get any in the oil compartment. After running theengine and letting it suck in sand we got about half way through a 25 lb bag.However, it made quite a mess out of the hangar and the engine was bucking andkicking and sounding really weird. We stopped and hooked the intake back upnormal and took off the sand supply. We tried to start it again and it was reallyhard. Once started, it couldn't idle and kept making weird noises. Insteadof running better, it was running worse. We took it out and flew it, and itstarted to make scraping and knocking noises. Help! Can anyone tell me what todo! Steve________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine advice
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine adviceCan anyone help me with this? I wanted to do something that would improve performancebut I did not want to spend too much money. It was recommended by a CessnaA&P to port and polish the intake and exhaust. We found out they used abrasivematerial to do it, like gritty sand. So I got with my Cessna A&P and we decidedto try it for ourselves. We got a bag of sandblasting sand and hooked upinto the intake and started the engine. We had to hold the throttle open soit would run. He wanted to let the engine suck in the sand through the intakeso it would port it out and then push it out the ehxaust so it would port theexhaust manifold. I was worried that it might cause problems but he figured it'dbe OK as long as we didn't get any in the oil compartment. After running theengine and letting it suck in sand we got about half way through a 25 lb bag.However, it made quite a mess out of the hangar and the engine was bucking andkicking and sounding really weird. We stopped and hooked the intake back upnormal and took off the sand supply. We tried to start it again and it was reallyhard. Once started, it couldn't idle and kept making weird noises. Insteadof running better, it was running worse. We took it out and flew it, and itstarted to make scraping and knocking noises. Help! Can anyone tell me what todo! Steve________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine advice
Re: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine advice
Original Posted By: "Jack"
You almost had me on this one...April fool?-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Apr 1, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM wrote:FORSCOM" > > Can anyone help me with this? I wanted to do something that would improve performance but I did not want to spend too much money. It was recommended by a Cessna A&P to port and polish the intake and exhaust. We found out they used abrasive material to do it, like gritty sand. So I got with my Cessna A&P and we decided to try it for ourselves. We got a bag of sandblasting sand and hooked up into the intake and started the engine. We had to hold the throttle open so it would run. He wanted to let the engine suck in the sand through the intake so it would port it out and then push it out the ehxaust so it would port the exhaust manifold. I was worried that it might cause problems but he figured it'd be OK as long as we didn't get any in the oil compartment. After running the engine and letting it suck in sand we got about half way through a 25 lb bag. However, it made quite a mess out of the hangar and the engine was bucking and kicking and sounding really weird. We stopped and!> hooked the intake back up normal and took off the sand supply. We tried to start it again and it was really hard. Once started, it couldn't idle and kept making weird noises. Instead of running better, it was running worse. We took it out and flew it, and it started to make scraping and knocking noises. Help! Can anyone tell me what to do! > > > Steve> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
You almost had me on this one...April fool?-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2424 American LaneMadison, WI 53704Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Apr 1, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM wrote:FORSCOM" > > Can anyone help me with this? I wanted to do something that would improve performance but I did not want to spend too much money. It was recommended by a Cessna A&P to port and polish the intake and exhaust. We found out they used abrasive material to do it, like gritty sand. So I got with my Cessna A&P and we decided to try it for ourselves. We got a bag of sandblasting sand and hooked up into the intake and started the engine. We had to hold the throttle open so it would run. He wanted to let the engine suck in the sand through the intake so it would port it out and then push it out the ehxaust so it would port the exhaust manifold. I was worried that it might cause problems but he figured it'd be OK as long as we didn't get any in the oil compartment. After running the engine and letting it suck in sand we got about half way through a 25 lb bag. However, it made quite a mess out of the hangar and the engine was bucking and kicking and sounding really weird. We stopped and!> hooked the intake back up normal and took off the sand supply. We tried to start it again and it was really hard. Once started, it couldn't idle and kept making weird noises. Instead of running better, it was running worse. We took it out and flew it, and it started to make scraping and knocking noises. Help! Can anyone tell me what to do! > > > Steve> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine advice
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hope it was a Corvair Steve, April Fools!JackDSM-----Original Message-----
Hope it was a Corvair Steve, April Fools!JackDSM-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine advice
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine adviceUh ok then! haha April fools!In a message dated 4/1/2011 1:15:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM" Can anyone help me with this? I wanted to do something that would improve performance but I did not want to spend too much money. It was recommended by a Cessna A&P to port and polish the intake and exhaust. We found out they used abrasive material to do it, like gritty sand. So I got with my Cessna A&P and we decided to try it for ourselves. We got a bag of sandblastingsand and hooked up into the intake and started the engine. We had to hold the throttle open so it would run. He wanted to let the engine suck in the sand through the intake so it would port it out and then push it out the ehxaust so it would port the exhaust manifold. I was worried that it might cause problems but he figured it'd be OK as long as we didn't get any in the oil compartment. After running the engine and letting it suck in sand we got about half way through a 25 lb bag. However, it made quite a mess out of the hangar and the engine was bucking and kicking and sounding really weird. We stopped and!hooked the intake back up normal and took off the sand supply. We tried to start it again and it was really hard. Once started, it couldn't idle and kept making weird noises. Instead of running better, it was running worse. We took it out and flew it, and it started to make scraping and knocking noises. Help! Can anyone tell me what to do! Steve________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:02:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Need some engine adviceUh ok then! haha April fools!In a message dated 4/1/2011 1:15:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steven.d.dortch(at)us.army.mil writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG FORSCOM" Can anyone help me with this? I wanted to do something that would improve performance but I did not want to spend too much money. It was recommended by a Cessna A&P to port and polish the intake and exhaust. We found out they used abrasive material to do it, like gritty sand. So I got with my Cessna A&P and we decided to try it for ourselves. We got a bag of sandblastingsand and hooked up into the intake and started the engine. We had to hold the throttle open so it would run. He wanted to let the engine suck in the sand through the intake so it would port it out and then push it out the ehxaust so it would port the exhaust manifold. I was worried that it might cause problems but he figured it'd be OK as long as we didn't get any in the oil compartment. After running the engine and letting it suck in sand we got about half way through a 25 lb bag. However, it made quite a mess out of the hangar and the engine was bucking and kicking and sounding really weird. We stopped and!hooked the intake back up normal and took off the sand supply. We tried to start it again and it was really hard. Once started, it couldn't idle and kept making weird noises. Instead of running better, it was running worse. We took it out and flew it, and it started to make scraping and knocking noises. Help! Can anyone tell me what to do! Steve________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 13:02:39 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
Jack, I'm having some trouble with the piet list -- I'm not receiving anything. I'm sending this as a test to see if it comes through. Do not archive. Chuck ----- Original Message -----
Jack, I'm having some trouble with the piet list -- I'm not receiving anything. I'm sending this as a test to see if it comes through. Do not archive. Chuck ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Came through for meJack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC _____
Came through for meJack PhillipsNX899JP "Icarus Plummet"Raleigh, NC _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: hvandervoo(at)aol.com
>>> To: >>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: S2S, S4S, or what?>>>>>> >>>>>> Well, my plans are on order, I am pricing wood (a painful endeavor), and >>> I>>> have come up with a question. I live in the South, so it is not very >>> easy>>> to purchase wood here locally (unless you want to build your airplane >>> with>>> pine. Not happenin'). So, trying to be the scrounger and cost conscious>>> builder, I am wondering the following->>>>>> 1. I am going to do the wing ribs first. A common place to start. Is it>>> necessary to use S4S, can you get by with S2S, or can I purchase lumber>>> and cut it to size myself? I am guessing the answer is that I need (at a>>> minimum) S2S, otherwise I need to take rougher lumber and either plane >>> it>>> myself, or have someone do it for me so that the strips are all the same>>> thickness.>>>>>> 2. Is there a reason for the capstrips to be finished on all four sides,>>> or can I cut them on my table saw the correct width, then lightly sand>>> them prior to varnishing them?>>>>>> My preference would be to ship larger pieces of spruce or fir, and then>>> plane and cut them myself. If you are telling me I absolutely need S4S >>> or>>> S2S then that is what I will do.>>>>>> Thanks in advance for the advice. Probably it is a silly question, but I>>> want to do things right. We used to say in the Marine Corps, "There is >>> no>>> such thing as a dumb question, although, there are some that come>>> extremely close." This may be on of those close questions.>>>>>> -------->>> Semper Fi,>>>>>> Terry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here:>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 566#335566>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
>>> To: >>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: S2S, S4S, or what?>>>>>> >>>>>> Well, my plans are on order, I am pricing wood (a painful endeavor), and >>> I>>> have come up with a question. I live in the South, so it is not very >>> easy>>> to purchase wood here locally (unless you want to build your airplane >>> with>>> pine. Not happenin'). So, trying to be the scrounger and cost conscious>>> builder, I am wondering the following->>>>>> 1. I am going to do the wing ribs first. A common place to start. Is it>>> necessary to use S4S, can you get by with S2S, or can I purchase lumber>>> and cut it to size myself? I am guessing the answer is that I need (at a>>> minimum) S2S, otherwise I need to take rougher lumber and either plane >>> it>>> myself, or have someone do it for me so that the strips are all the same>>> thickness.>>>>>> 2. Is there a reason for the capstrips to be finished on all four sides,>>> or can I cut them on my table saw the correct width, then lightly sand>>> them prior to varnishing them?>>>>>> My preference would be to ship larger pieces of spruce or fir, and then>>> plane and cut them myself. If you are telling me I absolutely need S4S >>> or>>> S2S then that is what I will do.>>>>>> Thanks in advance for the advice. Probably it is a silly question, but I>>> want to do things right. We used to say in the Marine Corps, "There is >>> no>>> such thing as a dumb question, although, there are some that come>>> extremely close." This may be on of those close questions.>>>>>> -------->>> Semper Fi,>>>>>> Terry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here:>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 566#335566>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Pietenpol-List: Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun
Original Posted By: "DOMIT"
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> Were praying for all our friends out at Sun n' Fun. We're seeing a lot of> bad weather down here, reports of a tornado, damaged buildings and> aircraft.>>> http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1>> Pictures;>> http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1>> *>> " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> p://forums.matronics.com> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution> *>>> *>> *>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> Were praying for all our friends out at Sun n' Fun. We're seeing a lot of> bad weather down here, reports of a tornado, damaged buildings and> aircraft.>>> http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1>> Pictures;>> http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Dato 110331&Kategori=PHOTOS51&Lopenr=331009999&Ref=PH&pl=1>> *>> " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> p://forums.matronics.com> blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution> *>>> *>> *>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Damage at Sun n' Fun