Original Posted By: "ldmill"
Anyone know what would be a fair price for a set of ribs ? These are originalPiet airfoil. Considering building a another set myself.DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls
Pietenpol-List: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls
Pietenpol-List: Re: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls
Original Posted By: airlion
Thanks guys! Jack - am going to have to slip down some time and see your project.lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 05:02:41 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks guys! Jack - am going to have to slip down some time and see your project.lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 05:02:41 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: update
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Pietenpol-List: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls
Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
Lorin:What airfoil does your GN-1 have? That power-off stall speedand abrupt nose-down don't sound like what my Piet does withthe stock Pietenpol undercambered airfoil.A tip of my hat to you for the x-wind landing though. Nicesave after one 'bolter'... it usually goes downhill after youmiss one and the pressure is on.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"San Antonio, TX (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:28:07 -0500
Lorin:What airfoil does your GN-1 have? That power-off stall speedand abrupt nose-down don't sound like what my Piet does withthe stock Pietenpol undercambered airfoil.A tip of my hat to you for the x-wind landing though. Nicesave after one 'bolter'... it usually goes downhill after youmiss one and the pressure is on.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"Flying Squirrel N2069Z "Rocket"San Antonio, TX (soon to be Eagle Point, Oregon)website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:28:07 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Tom's son on msnbc.com
Original Posted By: Steve Ruse
Pietenpol-List: Re: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls
Original Posted By: Dan Yocum
Hi Oscar, I think I've got the stock Grega airfoil on it. I didn't get a build log whenI purchased the plane, am fairly new to the Piet world - so am not for sure.That's one of the things that I'd like to look at on Jack's plane in Des Moines.Also - talking to my boss this morning (who is also a CFII), he said thatmoderate power on stalls tend to have the worst characteristics as it pulls intorque effect, etc. He highly recommended that I do a full power off stall nexttime up to get a true feel for how the plane responds. I've had time now to sit and mull over the whole landing sequence and pick itapart. I had to bolt on the first landing - just too much turbulence and couldn'tkeep the plane lined up on the runway. Could have possibly saved it - butit wasn't worth taking the chance. I realized that there was more crosswindthan I could handle with just full rudder and cross control. Second landing I had to approach in a huge crab, then at the last second fullcross control and slip down and slow wheel landing. Had the tail down in about3 seconds. It was amazing landing like that with the wind blasting me from theleft side. I'd never done it before. Very turbulent in an open cockpit plane... I've got 40 hours total tailwheel time now with one beautiful soft "off intothe grass" groundloop skid (right in front of my boss - of course). I wouldn'ttrade this type of flying for anything.Lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:18:50 -0500
Hi Oscar, I think I've got the stock Grega airfoil on it. I didn't get a build log whenI purchased the plane, am fairly new to the Piet world - so am not for sure.That's one of the things that I'd like to look at on Jack's plane in Des Moines.Also - talking to my boss this morning (who is also a CFII), he said thatmoderate power on stalls tend to have the worst characteristics as it pulls intorque effect, etc. He highly recommended that I do a full power off stall nexttime up to get a true feel for how the plane responds. I've had time now to sit and mull over the whole landing sequence and pick itapart. I had to bolt on the first landing - just too much turbulence and couldn'tkeep the plane lined up on the runway. Could have possibly saved it - butit wasn't worth taking the chance. I realized that there was more crosswindthan I could handle with just full rudder and cross control. Second landing I had to approach in a huge crab, then at the last second fullcross control and slip down and slow wheel landing. Had the tail down in about3 seconds. It was amazing landing like that with the wind blasting me from theleft side. I'd never done it before. Very turbulent in an open cockpit plane... I've got 40 hours total tailwheel time now with one beautiful soft "off intothe grass" groundloop skid (right in front of my boss - of course). I wouldn'ttrade this type of flying for anything.Lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:18:50 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: Tom's son on msnbc.com
Original Posted By: Woodflier(at)aol.com
That is awesome. Thanks Jim!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
That is awesome. Thanks Jim!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls
Original Posted By: "ldmill"
Having continued fun working on the Piet... The most recent few days have been spent fabricating a flip-down door for the forward"instrument board" (as Bernard called it) I am planning to use that spacefor storage, not instruments so the panel is attached via cabinet hinges witha veneer of "Bubinga" overlay (so that the fastener heads do not show.)Having a wonderful time.... I'm finally able to work in the shop with the door wide-open to the greenbelt -because the weather is so nice, yahooo...!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls
Having continued fun working on the Piet... The most recent few days have been spent fabricating a flip-down door for the forward"instrument board" (as Bernard called it) I am planning to use that spacefor storage, not instruments so the panel is attached via cabinet hinges witha veneer of "Bubinga" overlay (so that the fastener heads do not show.)Having a wonderful time.... I'm finally able to work in the shop with the door wide-open to the greenbelt -because the weather is so nice, yahooo...!--------Jake Schultz - curator,Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/_map ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Crosswind in a GN-1 and stalls
Original Posted By: "amsafetyc(at)aol.com"
Steve - thanks for the hints! I also have an A-75 in mine - so will try that techniquenext time. From landing to completed roll out was at most 200ft lastevening. The last full month here in central Iowa has been pretty much 15-20+mphalmost every day - so I understand what you're saying - either fly in it -or not much flying to be had.Your comment "After these landings, you have a combined feeling of "wow, that wasgreat", and "wow, that was stupid, don't do that again" and "wow, that wasgreat practice, I need to do this semi-regularly to keep my skills up" was a perfectsynopsis of how I was feeling last night!Dan, Yes, I do have gap seals on the ailerons. They are very responsive when moved,that's not an issue, it just takes quite a bit of stick movement to move theailerons very much.Lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Steve - thanks for the hints! I also have an A-75 in mine - so will try that techniquenext time. From landing to completed roll out was at most 200ft lastevening. The last full month here in central Iowa has been pretty much 15-20+mphalmost every day - so I understand what you're saying - either fly in it -or not much flying to be had.Your comment "After these landings, you have a combined feeling of "wow, that wasgreat", and "wow, that was stupid, don't do that again" and "wow, that wasgreat practice, I need to do this semi-regularly to keep my skills up" was a perfectsynopsis of how I was feeling last night!Dan, Yes, I do have gap seals on the ailerons. They are very responsive when moved,that's not an issue, it just takes quite a bit of stick movement to move theailerons very much.Lorin--------Lorin MillerWaiex N81YXGN-1 N30PPRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________