Original Posted By: "899PM"
This was a portion of an email I received from the TX Chapter of the AntiqueAirplane Association. I don't know this individual or other details. Cananyone verify what is going on here? Have any of y'all heard of situationslike this? Heads up from Dick Stephens:What you don't know could cost you $10,000 TSA FineTSA is policing Tyler airport and gave a person a $10,000 ticket. I was there on a cross country flight with a student and parked at the baseof the tower. The restaurant was closed at 2:00 in the afternoon. We decidedto walk around the static aircraft exhibit to Tyler Jet. When we enteredTyler Jet they were surprised and said "Where did you come from? We didn'tsee you taxi in." We told them and they asked if we had an airportclearance. They told us TSA had given a man a $10,000 fine and put him on ano fly list. There were no signs or warnings. We were told we had to stay inthe foot print of our plane or have an escort. Tyler Jet said they wouldtake us back to our plane when we were ready.That was a Big Surprise that could have cost us. Spread the word.Dick Stephens________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: 14 YEAR UPDATE
Pietenpol-List: 14 YEAR UPDATE
Pietenpol-List: Re: off topic but of interest to pilots
Original Posted By: "Catdesigns"
Had a great weekend. Got the wings mounted, struts cut and strut fittings drilled.While sitting back with a cold Porter and reflecting on the years, I couldswear I saw 899PM strain at the tail tiedown!--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: off topic but of interest to pilots
Had a great weekend. Got the wings mounted, struts cut and strut fittings drilled.While sitting back with a cold Porter and reflecting on the years, I couldswear I saw 899PM strain at the tail tiedown!--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: off topic but of interest to pilots
Re: Pietenpol-List: 14 YEAR UPDATE
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
According to AOPA Trler Tx airport is a commercial-service airport (has commercial passenger operations) http://www.aopa.org/airports/KTYR and is therefore subject to TSA Security Directive 1542-04-08G that went into effect in 2009. In a nutshell, at commercial airports TSA allows for transient pilots to move about for refueling, an emergency, direct access the FBO or exit. ( http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/security/brief_sd.html ) Several sources say walking unescorted is acceptable. Other than that you could be in trouble if your wandering around.TSA Airport Badging Program: Security Directive 1542-04-08Ghttp://www.nbaa.org/ops/security/airport-badges/May 29, 2009On May 28, 2009, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) issued SecurityDirective (SD) 1542-04-08G, which modifies security protocols for transientaircraft and after-hours operations at commercial-service airports. This newestrevision of the security directive "Version G" clarifies the TSA's initialsecurity directive, SD 1542-04-08F, and addresses some of the immediate, top-levelconcerns raised by NBAA and other general aviation groups about how theTSA's "badging" program would be implemented and what impact it might have onsecurity and safety.Note: Due to the sensitive nature of the information included in the directive,the TSA has not made the full content of the document widely available.TSA has provided additional clarification on the impact of the SD to general aviationoperations: As previously discussed, the purpose of the SD is to require background checksand identification for All PERSONS with UNESCORTED ACCESS to the SIDA andAOA at Commercial Airports. The affect of these badging SD's on General Aviationpilots will depend upon where they are operating: > For HOME-BASED PILOTS, the badging requirements will apply if you haveleased space or are part of a tenant program unless alternate measures have beenapproved by the airport operator. An example of an alternative measure wouldbe an escort program. > For TRANSIENT PILOTS, they will not be required to have airport badgesor background checks from any of the NON Home-Based airports they visit. Transientpilots are advised to remain in the footprint of their aircraft and to andfrom fixed-based operator, service provider or airport exit. Special allowancewill be given to transient pilot operators in the AOA who are fueling or inemergency status.--------ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 14 YEAR UPDATE
According to AOPA Trler Tx airport is a commercial-service airport (has commercial passenger operations) http://www.aopa.org/airports/KTYR and is therefore subject to TSA Security Directive 1542-04-08G that went into effect in 2009. In a nutshell, at commercial airports TSA allows for transient pilots to move about for refueling, an emergency, direct access the FBO or exit. ( http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/security/brief_sd.html ) Several sources say walking unescorted is acceptable. Other than that you could be in trouble if your wandering around.TSA Airport Badging Program: Security Directive 1542-04-08Ghttp://www.nbaa.org/ops/security/airport-badges/May 29, 2009On May 28, 2009, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) issued SecurityDirective (SD) 1542-04-08G, which modifies security protocols for transientaircraft and after-hours operations at commercial-service airports. This newestrevision of the security directive "Version G" clarifies the TSA's initialsecurity directive, SD 1542-04-08F, and addresses some of the immediate, top-levelconcerns raised by NBAA and other general aviation groups about how theTSA's "badging" program would be implemented and what impact it might have onsecurity and safety.Note: Due to the sensitive nature of the information included in the directive,the TSA has not made the full content of the document widely available.TSA has provided additional clarification on the impact of the SD to general aviationoperations: As previously discussed, the purpose of the SD is to require background checksand identification for All PERSONS with UNESCORTED ACCESS to the SIDA andAOA at Commercial Airports. The affect of these badging SD's on General Aviationpilots will depend upon where they are operating: > For HOME-BASED PILOTS, the badging requirements will apply if you haveleased space or are part of a tenant program unless alternate measures have beenapproved by the airport operator. An example of an alternative measure wouldbe an escort program. > For TRANSIENT PILOTS, they will not be required to have airport badgesor background checks from any of the NON Home-Based airports they visit. Transientpilots are advised to remain in the footprint of their aircraft and to andfrom fixed-based operator, service provider or airport exit. Special allowancewill be given to transient pilot operators in the AOA who are fueling or inemergency status.--------ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 14 YEAR UPDATE
Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic but of interest to pilots
Original Posted By: joe motis
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic but of interest to pilots
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic but of interest to pilots
Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic but of interest to pilots
Original Posted By: joe motis
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic but of interest to pilots
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic but of interest to pilots
Re: Pietenpol-List: off topic but of interest to pilots
Original Posted By: John Greenlee
I've read 3rd-hand information of a GA pilot who went through something similar after landing at KDAL. Bad deal...TSA/Homeland Security have been given far too much power. These are agencies that never should've been created and now they will never go away. Here are some more details on the incidents I've heard of:http://www.dfwpilots.com/board/index.ph ... 2546Google Scott Morse & Colorado Pilots Association for another similar story. Apparently pilots are being fined outrageous amounts for unknowingly being in the wrong place at towered airports.Sorry for the off-topic post. Then again, maybe it isn't off topic. There are plenty of these people who think we shouldn't be allowed to fly at all. Stuff like this puts us on a slippery slope. What I don't know is what I can do about it. Writing your representatives seems ineffective.Steve RuseNorman, OK
I've read 3rd-hand information of a GA pilot who went through something similar after landing at KDAL. Bad deal...TSA/Homeland Security have been given far too much power. These are agencies that never should've been created and now they will never go away. Here are some more details on the incidents I've heard of:http://www.dfwpilots.com/board/index.ph ... 2546Google Scott Morse & Colorado Pilots Association for another similar story. Apparently pilots are being fined outrageous amounts for unknowingly being in the wrong place at towered airports.Sorry for the off-topic post. Then again, maybe it isn't off topic. There are plenty of these people who think we shouldn't be allowed to fly at all. Stuff like this puts us on a slippery slope. What I don't know is what I can do about it. Writing your representatives seems ineffective.Steve RuseNorman, OK
Pietenpol-List: off topic but of interest to pilots
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: 14 YEAR UPDATE
Original Posted By: shad bell