Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
Hey Gene,I had to keep at least a 50/50 mix in my Ford during the winters. I oncecracked a block on a auto engine conversion project I had sitting in mystudio and it was a real bummer!Don't risk it!Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:59:27 +0000 (UTC)
Pietenpol-List: radiator fluid
Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
Original Posted By: "BYD"
Am using water with water pump lube added, Zerex product from NAPA, per Ken Perkins. I drain it when needed to protect from freezing.I would also like to get in line for the official fish scales. I am running a home carved propeller, copied from another, origin unknown. I am interested to see how it compares. Don LaneMinnesott Beach NC________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
Am using water with water pump lube added, Zerex product from NAPA, per Ken Perkins. I drain it when needed to protect from freezing.I would also like to get in line for the official fish scales. I am running a home carved propeller, copied from another, origin unknown. I am interested to see how it compares. Don LaneMinnesott Beach NC________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo
In seeking answers about the Model-A I look to those who went before me and thosewith experience. Those with experience would be the model-A clubs and theirpresence is abundant on the web. Some of those who went before me are on thislist, some are not. Both camps advocate a 50/50 mix of antifreeze and waterduring the winter so thats set. During the summer, some advocate pure water(distilled) and some the addition of WaterWetter to that distilled water. Thequestion is do you want the best, or whats adequate?Depending on your flying and location, a 50/50 mix could work year round. I flyin a low altitude and cool environment so Ill start by using the 50/50 mix andif my temps stay where I want them, Ill use it year round if I lived in Coloradoor the deep south I might need to run a different seasonal mix. I likethe KISS methodology and like to use products that can be found easily from multiplesources particularly if I plan on cross-country travel so I often askmyself, could I find this at a country store. Water alone can be had anywhere.Anti-freeze, just about. Redline WaterWetter, not so much.Read http://www.rockymountainmodelaclub.org/ ... _v2007.pdf for a dissertation about cooling fluids for the Model-A and search other Model-A websites.Another area for study will be engine oil. Ive found that newer oils are not bestfor the Model-A due to lack of zinc (an anti-pollution move). If you useoil with higher rating than SAE SF then adding ZDDPLUS will restore it to theSF levels. Using plain 30wt HD oil will prevent you from having to add an additiveand can be found in automotive, hardware and even some grocery stores (soit may pass my country store test).Half the fun of running these old time engines is learning the folklore that goeswith them, but be wary of falling into the trap of needing the absolute bestor scientifically the best. The most eloquent solutions are dirt simple andreadily available.Ill run a 50/50 mix and watch my temps. If I find myself in the southwest desertin a heat spell running high temps, I may drain it out and replace it withpure water knowing Ill find antifreeze by winter.Best of luck and enjoy the ride!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
In seeking answers about the Model-A I look to those who went before me and thosewith experience. Those with experience would be the model-A clubs and theirpresence is abundant on the web. Some of those who went before me are on thislist, some are not. Both camps advocate a 50/50 mix of antifreeze and waterduring the winter so thats set. During the summer, some advocate pure water(distilled) and some the addition of WaterWetter to that distilled water. Thequestion is do you want the best, or whats adequate?Depending on your flying and location, a 50/50 mix could work year round. I flyin a low altitude and cool environment so Ill start by using the 50/50 mix andif my temps stay where I want them, Ill use it year round if I lived in Coloradoor the deep south I might need to run a different seasonal mix. I likethe KISS methodology and like to use products that can be found easily from multiplesources particularly if I plan on cross-country travel so I often askmyself, could I find this at a country store. Water alone can be had anywhere.Anti-freeze, just about. Redline WaterWetter, not so much.Read http://www.rockymountainmodelaclub.org/ ... _v2007.pdf for a dissertation about cooling fluids for the Model-A and search other Model-A websites.Another area for study will be engine oil. Ive found that newer oils are not bestfor the Model-A due to lack of zinc (an anti-pollution move). If you useoil with higher rating than SAE SF then adding ZDDPLUS will restore it to theSF levels. Using plain 30wt HD oil will prevent you from having to add an additiveand can be found in automotive, hardware and even some grocery stores (soit may pass my country store test).Half the fun of running these old time engines is learning the folklore that goeswith them, but be wary of falling into the trap of needing the absolute bestor scientifically the best. The most eloquent solutions are dirt simple andreadily available.Ill run a 50/50 mix and watch my temps. If I find myself in the southwest desertin a heat spell running high temps, I may drain it out and replace it withpure water knowing Ill find antifreeze by winter.Best of luck and enjoy the ride!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
> Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
Original Posted By:> billsayre(at)ymail.com
the 50/50 mix may well work for cars=2C but you might find yourself lifting paint off of your aircraft or poisoning yourself or both as the aircraft application does leak from time to time. I think I'll stick with water and drain it after running. Gene > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
the 50/50 mix may well work for cars=2C but you might find yourself lifting paint off of your aircraft or poisoning yourself or both as the aircraft application does leak from time to time. I think I'll stick with water and drain it after running. Gene > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
Original Posted By: airlion
I did have leaks on the first run especially - loose clamps that hadn't set inwith the heat et cetera, but I didn't lose any paint (Latex) and I only have anoccasional facial twitch so far.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:07:06 -0700 (PDT)
I did have leaks on the first run especially - loose clamps that hadn't set inwith the heat et cetera, but I didn't lose any paint (Latex) and I only have anoccasional facial twitch so far.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:07:06 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
I've used pepper many times in car and truckrads. Strange how these things happen afteryour vehicle travels a few hundred thousandmiles. :-)Another trick is to use your lady's nylons toreplace a broken fan belt. I wonder if Waldoever had occasion to use that one on hisHisso.ClifThe Early Bird may get the worm but the secondmouse gets the cheese.> I have to reply to this one tho I am not a rariator man except in my car.. > Another suggestion was> if you had a radiator leak you should pour a cup of EGG white in and it > would> seal it. HAVE NOT HAD TO USE THAT ONE.> cHEERS, Gardiner Mason________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
I've used pepper many times in car and truckrads. Strange how these things happen afteryour vehicle travels a few hundred thousandmiles. :-)Another trick is to use your lady's nylons toreplace a broken fan belt. I wonder if Waldoever had occasion to use that one on hisHisso.ClifThe Early Bird may get the worm but the secondmouse gets the cheese.> I have to reply to this one tho I am not a rariator man except in my car.. > Another suggestion was> if you had a radiator leak you should pour a cup of EGG white in and it > would> seal it. HAVE NOT HAD TO USE THAT ONE.> cHEERS, Gardiner Mason________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: official fish scales
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
Original Posted By: Greg Bacon
My friend Kip Yearwood in Sanger, Texas has a Gullwing that he is restoring. Beforehe dismantled it he let me fly it from Texarkana to Justine,Texas one time,andit is one big sweet flying airplane. Once trimmed out it is surprising howlight the controls are considering how big the plane is. Only thing is, itis a costly plane to fly. With the 300 horsepower lycoming engine you better bringplenty oil with you.[/b]--------Building steel fuselage aircamper.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:37:48 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
My friend Kip Yearwood in Sanger, Texas has a Gullwing that he is restoring. Beforehe dismantled it he let me fly it from Texarkana to Justine,Texas one time,andit is one big sweet flying airplane. Once trimmed out it is surprising howlight the controls are considering how big the plane is. Only thing is, itis a costly plane to fly. With the 300 horsepower lycoming engine you better bringplenty oil with you.[/b]--------Building steel fuselage aircamper.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 07:37:48 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
Original Posted By: "BYD"
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > In seeking answers about the Model-A I look to those who went before me and those with experience. Those with experience would be the model-A clubs and their presence is abundant on the web. Some of those who went before me are on this list=2C some are not. Both camps advocate a 50/50 mix of antifreeze and water during the winter so that=99s set. During the summer=2C some advocate pure water (distilled) and some the addition of WaterWetter to that distilled water. The question is do you want the best=2C or what=99s adequate?> > Depending on your flying and location=2C a 50/50 mix could work year round. I fly in a low altitude and cool environment so I=99ll start by using the 50/50 mix and if my temps stay where I want them=2C I=99ll use it year round =93 if I lived in Colorado or the deep south I might need to run a different seasonal mix. I like the KISS methodology and like to use products that can be found easily from multiple sources particularly if I plan on cross-country travel so I often ask myself=2C could I find this at a country store. Water alone can be had anywhere. Anti-freeze=2C just about. Redline WaterWetter=2C not so much.> > Read http://www.rockymountainmodelaclub.org/ ... _v2007.pdf for a dissertation about cooling fluids for the Model-A and search other Model-A websites.> > Another area for study will be engine oil. I=99ve found that newer oils are not best for the Model-A due to lack of zinc (an anti-pollution move). If you use oil with higher rating than SAE SF then adding ZDDPLUS will restore it to the SF levels. Using plain 30wt HD oil will prevent you from having to add an additive and can be found in automotive=2C hardware and even some grocery stores (so it may pass my country store test).> > Half the fun of running these old time engines is learning the folklore that goes with them=2C but be wary of falling into the trap of needing the absolute best or scientifically the best. The most eloquent solutions are dirt simple and readily available.> > I=99ll run a 50/50 mix and watch my temps. If I find myself in the southwest desert in a heat spell running high temps=2C I may drain it out and replace it with pure water knowing I=99ll find antifreeze by winter.> > Best of luck and enjoy the ride!> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 253#385253> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > In seeking answers about the Model-A I look to those who went before me and those with experience. Those with experience would be the model-A clubs and their presence is abundant on the web. Some of those who went before me are on this list=2C some are not. Both camps advocate a 50/50 mix of antifreeze and water during the winter so that=99s set. During the summer=2C some advocate pure water (distilled) and some the addition of WaterWetter to that distilled water. The question is do you want the best=2C or what=99s adequate?> > Depending on your flying and location=2C a 50/50 mix could work year round. I fly in a low altitude and cool environment so I=99ll start by using the 50/50 mix and if my temps stay where I want them=2C I=99ll use it year round =93 if I lived in Colorado or the deep south I might need to run a different seasonal mix. I like the KISS methodology and like to use products that can be found easily from multiple sources particularly if I plan on cross-country travel so I often ask myself=2C could I find this at a country store. Water alone can be had anywhere. Anti-freeze=2C just about. Redline WaterWetter=2C not so much.> > Read http://www.rockymountainmodelaclub.org/ ... _v2007.pdf for a dissertation about cooling fluids for the Model-A and search other Model-A websites.> > Another area for study will be engine oil. I=99ve found that newer oils are not best for the Model-A due to lack of zinc (an anti-pollution move). If you use oil with higher rating than SAE SF then adding ZDDPLUS will restore it to the SF levels. Using plain 30wt HD oil will prevent you from having to add an additive and can be found in automotive=2C hardware and even some grocery stores (so it may pass my country store test).> > Half the fun of running these old time engines is learning the folklore that goes with them=2C but be wary of falling into the trap of needing the absolute best or scientifically the best. The most eloquent solutions are dirt simple and readily available.> > I=99ll run a 50/50 mix and watch my temps. If I find myself in the southwest desert in a heat spell running high temps=2C I may drain it out and replace it with pure water knowing I=99ll find antifreeze by winter.> > Best of luck and enjoy the ride!> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 253#385253> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: radiator fluid