Original Posted By: "bender"
That guy is clearly coming in a bit low, but levels off... all good. Then he suddenlypicks up quite a rate of descent and it looks to me as if he's clearlygoing to land short, and probably hard.Insofar as glide path angles and such, not sure how they come into play when you'reon a visual...My guess would be that the pilot DID see that car, and probably exactly at themoment he picked up that rate of descent. You tend to fly where you're looking.Seeing a car like that at the last minute would certainly draw my eyes rightthere!You could clearly put some causal factors either way. I would bet they're going to pin it on the pilot, because the flawed system thatallowed this to develop, while screwed up, was "legal". One of a billion gotchasout there. Roads at the ends of runways are BAD. Didn't a P51 hit a pickup truck at Brodhead?I know some airplane at Pioneer field clipped the top of the tram that goesfrom the museum to the airfield. I witnessed a crop duster take off (overweight)and would have hit a car if it were there. Got to be a million more cases,just not many on video...Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weight and balance
Pietenpol-List: Weight and balance
Pietenpol-List: Re: My first Pietenpoling adventure!!
Original Posted By: "bender"
So i weighed the piet today..I was a little scared because i have an electrical system..I'm running a small odyssey battery and an alternator because i need a radio andtransponder. I'm following the corvair guys ignition system with a dual pointdistributor with 2 coils...a simple backup...works good.so.. 665 lbs empty.... that includes water and oilmost extreme aft cg condition is 18.9 inches aft of the leading edgeand it moves only about an inch forward removing fuel and passenger weight if iloose a few lbs it'll be even better.ready to schedule a visit for an airworthiness certificatejeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My first Pietenpoling adventure!!
So i weighed the piet today..I was a little scared because i have an electrical system..I'm running a small odyssey battery and an alternator because i need a radio andtransponder. I'm following the corvair guys ignition system with a dual pointdistributor with 2 coils...a simple backup...works good.so.. 665 lbs empty.... that includes water and oilmost extreme aft cg condition is 18.9 inches aft of the leading edgeand it moves only about an inch forward removing fuel and passenger weight if iloose a few lbs it'll be even better.ready to schedule a visit for an airworthiness certificatejeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: My first Pietenpoling adventure!!
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Awesome Douwe..i can't wait to join you guysjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Awesome Douwe..i can't wait to join you guysjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Weight and balance
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
I've been getting some unhappy emails and I just want to go on record that Iby relating that story, I am not suggesting or condoning spinning yourPietenpol. I'm just reporting what I saw my plane do yesterday morning.I too have never heard of a modern Piet being spun and since he didn't getkilled, I find it an interesting "first" as people over the years havewondered about what would happen. Now I know.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Weight and balance
I've been getting some unhappy emails and I just want to go on record that Iby relating that story, I am not suggesting or condoning spinning yourPietenpol. I'm just reporting what I saw my plane do yesterday morning.I too have never heard of a modern Piet being spun and since he didn't getkilled, I find it an interesting "first" as people over the years havewondered about what would happen. Now I know.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Weight and balance
Pietenpol-List: My first Pietenpoling adventure!!
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: My first Pietenpoling adventure!!Douwe-- I for one would LOVE to hear your instructors complete description of thespin he did and his thoughtson the recovery. Having spun Champs and Cubs I've always wanted to see howthe Piet would spin but haven'tso would love to hear what your instructor's impressions were. You've got the long fuselage or short?Thank you!All great info---Mike C.(and spinning or not spinning your Piet is a personal choice just as much as usingmogas or cargas, a 1 pce or 3 pce wing, wheel landingsor three pointers...do it your way.) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: My first Pietenpoling adventure!!Douwe-- I for one would LOVE to hear your instructors complete description of thespin he did and his thoughtson the recovery. Having spun Champs and Cubs I've always wanted to see howthe Piet would spin but haven'tso would love to hear what your instructor's impressions were. You've got the long fuselage or short?Thank you!All great info---Mike C.(and spinning or not spinning your Piet is a personal choice just as much as usingmogas or cargas, a 1 pce or 3 pce wing, wheel landingsor three pointers...do it your way.) ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: flying in the Navy
Original Posted By: "tools"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying in the NavyTools.....so you flew in the NAVY?________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying in the Navy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying in the NavyTools.....so you flew in the NAVY?________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying in the Navy
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Yep. Graduated at the very TOP (of the bottom ten percent) of my class at USNAand was awarded the coveted position of Anti Submarine Warfare Officer on theUSS Meyerkord... wups. Turns out the culpable result of going to the Naval Academyis driving a ship....However, managed to find a way into flight school from that job and flew T-34Cs,T-2Cs then TA-4J's in flight school.Flew S-3Bs in the fleet off the USS Carl Vinson. Fun jet, just a little like amoped, lots of fun, just don't want your friends to see you flying it! Only claim to fame there is that when Bush went out to the carrier some years ago,that was my old squadron. The guy flying him was one of my former instructorsin the RAG. While a jet and I dropped as many live 500 lb bombs as all my F18 buddies (anda lot more torpedos), it's kind of a bastard step child in the airwing. Nicesafe jet around the boat though.Then all got good when my last tour was in TA-4Js in Meridian (my dad was a planecaptain on A-4s in 1960 and I was an instructor in them in 1999!). Taughtkids how to do all the fun stuff, dropping bombs, shooting the gun, tactical formation,night formation (ok, kind of like sticking pencils in your eyes), lowlevel formation, dogfighting, landing on the carrier in good weather and showingoff for your family on cross countries!Came out with 1800 hrs and 200 traps (about 80 at night, those suck). At airshowspeople would thank me for my service, to which I would promptly thank THEMfor participating on April 15. Tax Day. Thanks to all the good tax payers inthe country, I got ONE HELL of a good ride!Tools is a desparate hang on to the glory days, it was my callsign. Hell, stillhave a bunch of friends that don't even know my real name. That and there'salways a half dozen of us Mikes in the crowd anyway. Had some sort of nick namemy entire life.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:18:31 -0800 (PST)
Yep. Graduated at the very TOP (of the bottom ten percent) of my class at USNAand was awarded the coveted position of Anti Submarine Warfare Officer on theUSS Meyerkord... wups. Turns out the culpable result of going to the Naval Academyis driving a ship....However, managed to find a way into flight school from that job and flew T-34Cs,T-2Cs then TA-4J's in flight school.Flew S-3Bs in the fleet off the USS Carl Vinson. Fun jet, just a little like amoped, lots of fun, just don't want your friends to see you flying it! Only claim to fame there is that when Bush went out to the carrier some years ago,that was my old squadron. The guy flying him was one of my former instructorsin the RAG. While a jet and I dropped as many live 500 lb bombs as all my F18 buddies (anda lot more torpedos), it's kind of a bastard step child in the airwing. Nicesafe jet around the boat though.Then all got good when my last tour was in TA-4Js in Meridian (my dad was a planecaptain on A-4s in 1960 and I was an instructor in them in 1999!). Taughtkids how to do all the fun stuff, dropping bombs, shooting the gun, tactical formation,night formation (ok, kind of like sticking pencils in your eyes), lowlevel formation, dogfighting, landing on the carrier in good weather and showingoff for your family on cross countries!Came out with 1800 hrs and 200 traps (about 80 at night, those suck). At airshowspeople would thank me for my service, to which I would promptly thank THEMfor participating on April 15. Tax Day. Thanks to all the good tax payers inthe country, I got ONE HELL of a good ride!Tools is a desparate hang on to the glory days, it was my callsign. Hell, stillhave a bunch of friends that don't even know my real name. That and there'salways a half dozen of us Mikes in the crowd anyway. Had some sort of nick namemy entire life.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:18:31 -0800 (PST)