Original Posted By: Ryan M
Harvey;This has been discussed off and on here and in the print Newsletter for years, but I don't know if any Piets have ever flown with a VW engine.- A couple of years ago there was an article in the BPA News (the print newsletter) about that very thing, and I believe Doc Mosher wrote the article.- The conclusion was, "why not VW power?"One issue that I see with the VW is that it is very light, and Piets already tend to be tail-heavy.- As you know, there are many, many Piets flying with the 6-cylinder Corvair engine of similar configuration as the VW but it weighs more and puts out more power than a 4-cylinder VW.- Also as you probably know, the converse of this situation is that there are Sonexes powered by Corvairs but they have been very carefully designed and installed to keep the engine as tight to the firewall as possible, for CG reasons I guess.- The Piet has the opposite condition.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 2#388542le, List Admin.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:17:01 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By: "Harvey Plummer"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gauges> > I'm way ahead of myself here but a friend gave me this panel. Are these gaugesthe size, voltage, etc. that I could use in my Pietenpol? If > so would it be best to have them looked at by a rebuild shop to > verify that they work? Just asking.....> > John> > --------> John Francis> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 518#388518> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07777_809.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07776_123.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Gauges> > I'm way ahead of myself here but a friend gave me this panel. Are these gaugesthe size, voltage, etc. that I could use in my Pietenpol? If > so would it be best to have them looked at by a rebuild shop to > verify that they work? Just asking.....> > John> > --------> John Francis> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 518#388518> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07777_809.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07776_123.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Pietenpol-List: Re: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Has anyone built and flown a Piet with a VW or more specifically an Aerovee Conversionsengine? What type prop did you use? What are your climb, cruise and approachRPMs?I just finished a Sonex with an Aerovee and I am thinking maybe a Pietenpol mightbe the next project.Thanks.--------Harv, 485PBRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aerovee Engine
Has anyone built and flown a Piet with a VW or more specifically an Aerovee Conversionsengine? What type prop did you use? What are your climb, cruise and approachRPMs?I just finished a Sonex with an Aerovee and I am thinking maybe a Pietenpol mightbe the next project.Thanks.--------Harv, 485PBRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]"
Harvey;This has been discussed off and on here and in the print Newsletter for years,but I don't know if any Piets have ever flown with a VW engine. A couple of yearsago there was an article in the BPA News (the print newsletter) about thatvery thing, and I believe Doc Mosher wrote the article. The conclusion was,"why not VW power?"One issue that I see with the VW is that it is very light, and Piets already tendto be tail-heavy. As you know, there are many, many Piets flying with the6-cylinder Corvair engine of similar configuration as the VW but it weighs moreand puts out more power than a 4-cylinder VW. Also as you probably know, theconverse of this situation is that there are Sonexes powered by Corvairs butthey have been very carefully designed and installed to keep the engine as tightto the firewall as possible, for CG reasons I guess. The Piet has the oppositecondition.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Harvey;This has been discussed off and on here and in the print Newsletter for years,but I don't know if any Piets have ever flown with a VW engine. A couple of yearsago there was an article in the BPA News (the print newsletter) about thatvery thing, and I believe Doc Mosher wrote the article. The conclusion was,"why not VW power?"One issue that I see with the VW is that it is very light, and Piets already tendto be tail-heavy. As you know, there are many, many Piets flying with the6-cylinder Corvair engine of similar configuration as the VW but it weighs moreand puts out more power than a 4-cylinder VW. Also as you probably know, theconverse of this situation is that there are Sonexes powered by Corvairs butthey have been very carefully designed and installed to keep the engine as tightto the firewall as possible, for CG reasons I guess. The Piet has the oppositecondition.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: $7,000 for an Aerovee from Sonex (assembly required)
Original Posted By: Gmail
Subject: Pietenpol-List: $7,000 for an Aerovee from Sonex (assembly required)Harvey,Congratulations on finishing your Sonex! What a great little go-fast airplane. The Aerovee is a perfect engine forthat plane but there are better, more proven engines that have flown for years on the Pietenpol that are less costly,and much more suitable to the speed of the airframe and passenger-carrying desires. After seeing how expensivea new Aerovee Conversion is I would just go out and buy a low time A-65 Continental or if money is not an issueyou could probably get a pretty nice 0-200 and have all kinds of power.Like Oscar said, there have been Piets built with VW engines but I have not heard of any that flew, let alone givenany information that would be helpful in answering your questions.The best way to get in the air quickly is just to purchase a flying Pietenpol for only a few thousand more than the Aeroveecosts.All the best,Mike C.Ohio[cid:image001.png(at)01CDC7F2.749928E0]1994 Pietenpol by Bill Rewey1994 PIETENPOL BY BILL REWEY * $12,000 * FOR SALE BY BUILDER * 550TT, A65 with electric start 608-833-5839 For photos, search web for NX17WR or "Bill Rewey" * Contact Chris W. Rewey, Friend of Owner - located Verona, WI USA * Telephone: 6088331001 * Posted November 4, 2012 * Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser * Recommend This Ad to a Friend * Email Advertiser * Save to Watchlist * Report This Ad * Finance New Lower Rates!________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: $7,000 for an Aerovee from Sonex (assembly required)
Subject: Pietenpol-List: $7,000 for an Aerovee from Sonex (assembly required)Harvey,Congratulations on finishing your Sonex! What a great little go-fast airplane. The Aerovee is a perfect engine forthat plane but there are better, more proven engines that have flown for years on the Pietenpol that are less costly,and much more suitable to the speed of the airframe and passenger-carrying desires. After seeing how expensivea new Aerovee Conversion is I would just go out and buy a low time A-65 Continental or if money is not an issueyou could probably get a pretty nice 0-200 and have all kinds of power.Like Oscar said, there have been Piets built with VW engines but I have not heard of any that flew, let alone givenany information that would be helpful in answering your questions.The best way to get in the air quickly is just to purchase a flying Pietenpol for only a few thousand more than the Aeroveecosts.All the best,Mike C.Ohio[cid:image001.png(at)01CDC7F2.749928E0]1994 Pietenpol by Bill Rewey1994 PIETENPOL BY BILL REWEY * $12,000 * FOR SALE BY BUILDER * 550TT, A65 with electric start 608-833-5839 For photos, search web for NX17WR or "Bill Rewey" * Contact Chris W. Rewey, Friend of Owner - located Verona, WI USA * Telephone: 6088331001 * Posted November 4, 2012 * Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser * Recommend This Ad to a Friend * Email Advertiser * Save to Watchlist * Report This Ad * Finance New Lower Rates!________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: $7,000 for an Aerovee from Sonex (assembly required)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By: Greg Bacon
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
RE: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hey Corvair guys, what static thrust did you measure?300 lbs, and that was before I reconfigured the prop to be more efficient. Gary BootheNX308MB
Hey Corvair guys, what static thrust did you measure?300 lbs, and that was before I reconfigured the prop to be more efficient. Gary BootheNX308MB
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
Actually Greg, most Model A props are 76", not 72", so the area would 31.5 square feet, or nearly 100% greater. Gene RamboOn Nov 22, 2012, at 10:34 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> Hey Corvair guys, what static thrust did you measure?> > 300 lbs, and that was before I reconfigured the prop to be more efficient.> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB>
Actually Greg, most Model A props are 76", not 72", so the area would 31.5 square feet, or nearly 100% greater. Gene RamboOn Nov 22, 2012, at 10:34 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> Hey Corvair guys, what static thrust did you measure?> > 300 lbs, and that was before I reconfigured the prop to be more efficient.> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB>
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Re: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
Dang Gary! You're the thrust Master! What is you're prop diameter?Greg BaconGarratt Callahangbacon@g-c.com(573)489-4795On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:34 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> Hey Corvair guys, what static thrust did you measure?> > 300 lbs, and that was before I reconfigured the prop to be more efficient.> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB>
Dang Gary! You're the thrust Master! What is you're prop diameter?Greg BaconGarratt Callahangbacon@g-c.com(573)489-4795On Nov 22, 2012, at 9:34 AM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> Hey Corvair guys, what static thrust did you measure?> > 300 lbs, and that was before I reconfigured the prop to be more efficient.> > Gary Boothe> NX308MB>
RE: Pietenpol-List: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
That prop was 66x34. After a little more work, it went from 62mph cruise to 75 at 2700 rpm. The new prop cruises 75 at 2400, but suffers on the climb. I=99ll most likely re-pitch it before Summer.Gary BootheNX308MB
That prop was 66x34. After a little more work, it went from 62mph cruise to 75 at 2700 rpm. The new prop cruises 75 at 2400, but suffers on the climb. I=99ll most likely re-pitch it before Summer.Gary BootheNX308MB
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aerovee Engine
Original Posted By: Michael Conkling
Wednesday, November 21, 2012, 1:38 PM=0A>=0A>=0A>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "taildrags" =0A>=0A>Harvey;=0A>=0A>This has been discussed off and on here and in the print Newsletter for years, but I don't know if any Piets have ever flown with a VW engine.- A couple of years ago there was an article in=0A the BPA News (the print newsletter) about that very thing, and I believe Doc Mosher wrote the article.- The conclusion was, "why not VW power?"=0A>=0A>One issue that I see with the VW is that it is very light, and Piets already tend to be tail-heavy.- As you know, there are many, many Piets flying with the 6-cylinder Corvair engine of similar configuration as the VW but it weighs more and puts out more power than a 4-cylinder VW.- Also as you probably know, the converse of this situation is that there are Sonexes powered by Corvairs but they have been very carefully designed and installed to keep the engine as tight to the firewall as possible, for CG reasons I guess.- The Piet has the opposite condition.=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Oscar Zuniga=0A>Medford, OR=0A>Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"=0A>A75 power=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... http://ww- - - - - - - - - - -======================== http://www.matronics.c-> http://foru=============================================0A===================== ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:56:12 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aerovee Engine
Wednesday, November 21, 2012, 1:38 PM=0A>=0A>=0A>--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "taildrags" =0A>=0A>Harvey;=0A>=0A>This has been discussed off and on here and in the print Newsletter for years, but I don't know if any Piets have ever flown with a VW engine.- A couple of years ago there was an article in=0A the BPA News (the print newsletter) about that very thing, and I believe Doc Mosher wrote the article.- The conclusion was, "why not VW power?"=0A>=0A>One issue that I see with the VW is that it is very light, and Piets already tend to be tail-heavy.- As you know, there are many, many Piets flying with the 6-cylinder Corvair engine of similar configuration as the VW but it weighs more and puts out more power than a 4-cylinder VW.- Also as you probably know, the converse of this situation is that there are Sonexes powered by Corvairs but they have been very carefully designed and installed to keep the engine as tight to the firewall as possible, for CG reasons I guess.- The Piet has the opposite condition.=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Oscar Zuniga=0A>Medford, OR=0A>Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"=0A>A75 power=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... http://ww- - - - - - - - - - -======================== http://www.matronics.c-> http://foru=============================================0A===================== ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:56:12 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Aerovee Engine