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Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:35 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
John; for the cost of a set of the tail hinges, you should be able to buy enoughpiano hinge material (either rolled or extruded ) to do your ailerons. Withthe piano hinges, you get the added benefits of gap sealing and not having tofuss with small cotter pins on clevis pins in fairly tight spaces. A singlepiece of rod/wire holds the two halves of the piano hinge together and you'redone.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:48 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Yeah Mark!! Just don't make a mess in the living room...you owe her BIG! Whata girl will do for a night out! Honey,my mother's going to visit for awhile,ok? I could go on... Glad your not selling it. GlenSent from my iPhone> On Dec 22, 2014, at 8:34 PM, "Mark Roberts" wrote:> > > Hey Tools!> > Looks like the Angels of the Air have smiled on me, and I have the truck andresources to move the piet project. I load the truck next Monday,and I am buildinga crate to move it in. I expect to unload it into my living room of the apartmentI am renting in Nashville, and then drive it down soon after that. Mywife is supportive spouse, but a 15 foot fuse in the living room is pushing myluck [Shocked] :D > > I have your phone number, and here is mine in TN: 615-487-9784.> > Woo Hoo! Many thanks for your kindness, and I look forward to meeting the Tennesseecontingent of the Piet Fliers :D> > Mark Roberts> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 030#436030> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 23:04:15 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:27 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
What is emotionally fun about kindred spirits like what is on this list, is thatothers will revel in other's good fortune: A first flight of a 10 year longbuild, a shared tear from the passing of someone many of us know only from thelist like Vi (I DID buy some hinges a while back fearing they would one day beunavailable... YEAH Oscar!), the rejoicing others share when someone can keepand move a loved project like mine.Oh, AND a guy I don't even know off of this list offers to store my project atno cost in his hanger till I can get on my "building feet" again. Thanks Tools!!And thanks to the rest of ya'll for hollerin' support for me! I sure appreciateit!MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:17 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark, show her how an airplane can be part of the d=E9cor.Here is a picture of my dining room, with my Pietenpol wing when I was justgetting started on the project. Of course, I was recently divorced and hadno one to consult with about furniture placement options:Note the bandsaw sitting in the dining room. Who could object to that?Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia-----Original Message-----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:49 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Charles N. Campbell"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:18 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "tools"
Wow, that's great news. Odds of me being there are slim, but someone will andwill get ya hooked up. Also, my son has been running loads of vanities and granite tops from chatt toNashville, coming home empty. May be able to get him to grab it there for youand bring it back.By the way, merry Christmas to all! As for this favor, just passing it along...Have been helped like this many times in the past. I'm currently storing anotherPiet project up here in wisconsin as it turns out! It all works out inthe end... I'll give ya call so we can get a plan to deviate from in motion.ToolsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:25 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Boatright, Jeffrey"
Wow, that's cool. We got a slug of our dc9's back with the merger... Who knows.Will have to look into that.We've got "the spirit of delta" our first and employee bought 767 in our museum.I got to fly it a couple of times. Really like those sorts of things. Our l1011's were known as puds. Pan am, uniteddelta. When the wind would kick over the rudder full travel, you could stillsee part of the pan am globe painted on them.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:44 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jim Boyer
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Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:21 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Mark Roberts"
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:46 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
How Funny Jack!Yes, I have thought about the "furniture" idea before, but realized I married awoman smarter than myself, and she'd catch on pretty fast... We are gettingrid of the couch, so I thought, hey! A cockpit has a seat, we'll just put theTV where the Radiator would be on a Model A powered piet... Use it for a livingroom couch! The look on her face still keeps me sleeping with one eye open.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:13 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
Hey Jack,So, you got to keep the PIET project, the bad saw, old rifle, puny antlers, reloading "horn" , two sawhorses and one chair? And of course, the dinning room!Congratulations on the decor and surviving!Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Jack Phillips wrote:> > Mark, show her how an airplane can be part of the d=C3=A9cor.> > Here is a picture of my dining room, with my Pietenpol wing when I was just getting started on the project. Of course, I was recently divorced and had no one to consult with about furniture placement options:> > > > Note the bandsaw sitting in the dining room. Who could object to that?> > Jack Phillips> NX899JP> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia> > -----Original Message-----

Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:41 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Mark Roberts"
Sometimes you see something that really strikes you, and just a few minutes ago,I did. I was on Chris Tracy's Westcoastpiet site looking for pictures of theAerial biplane and was scrolling down the list of names and tail numbers onthe Photos page when I got to the M's and noticed 'Miscellaneous', which I clickedon. Two pages of Piet pictures in there, and a builder could do a lot worsethan to spend a rainy afternoon looking at almost any of the pictures on Westcoastpietto get ideas on how to do things. Sure, you can start with the onesthat are familiar and are standouts in the fleet, but some of the offbeatones are interesting too. "Der Faker Fokker" comes to mind (check out the TexasAir Museum link on the Photos page).Then there was the image that caught my attention (see attached). This is theembodiment of what it means to be a builder, a dreamer, an experimenter. Someonewho has little more than the dream, the beginnings of an airplane, a helper,and a thin silver strand of a vision holding it all together. This says itall.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/drea ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:42 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Well, an update for any who are following my saga (and if you are, what a sad lifeyou lead!!) I got a call today from Tools (AKA Mike) and what a great guy. Ever since I decidedto build a Piet, I have met nothing but great guys and gals. I know otherhobbyists and car clubs, Gun enthusiasts, Ham Radio guys (I am one of thosetoo), etc... All those mutual interests have great people that participate. And I am sure they have their fair share of good folks too. But...I am and have been members of various "hobby" clubs (including Model Airplane clubsmost frequently over many locations) and I have NEVER met as nice and generouspeople as I have in the Piet community.Mike Cuy befriended me once with a DVD, and he knows me not. Gary Boothe visited me and bought my dinner when I had first ordered my plans (andstill checks in occasionally to see if I am still breathing Piets...AND recentlyoffered to store my project for me if I couldn't find a suitable solutionwhen I move...)Jim Boyer always made me feel important and was a great conversationalist at theWest Coast Piet June gatherings, and ...Mike and Vic Groah welcomed me to their home and let me sit in their yet to befinished project when I was just getting excited about the potential build. Iwas too fat and large to fit in, but the wooden shoe horn and Vic pushing onmy head got me sucked into the seat long enough for a picture...And... a man that I met on the first West Coast Piet gathering I attended, JimMarkle, offered to let me stay at his house as I traversed the country on my firsttrip to Nashville when I was relocating... I met him ONCE, and even thenthat was not why he offered to let me stay... He was just a member of this list!Good Lord......AND, this list, did a fundraiser for that same Jim when he was going to sellhis project to raise cash... (Good Grief folks: What group does THAT for anotherperson that many will never meet!!)...All of these memories (and many more: Charlie Miller giving my wife her first ride in a Piet and setting the "Hook" forme ;o) and it was a bumpy, windy day at that!)... AND all the food Charlieand his beautiful wife provided..., my friend Jorge in Hanford visiting a few times and sharing with me so many ideasand hours visiting about my build), being "inducted" into the Great Waldo Pepper phraseology club by watching a DVDof the movie given to me by Gary Boothe so I'd understand the inside jokes onthe list, AND, the patience poor Gary had when first meeting me as I babbledon INCESSANTLY at that free dinner he took me to.. Poor man hasn't recovered yetfrom the earful of non-stop talking I did that night...).... 4 years of West Coast Piet gatherings where I met and fellowshipped with MANY agood person,Yes, all of these memories are special to me, and at 54 (OMG... Why do I look 76??),I am glad I can continue to make more memories with this group, as I cankeep my project, thanks to more friends I have yet to meet face to face, butoffering to house my project for me until I can get settled, and even then wheneverI am ready to pick it up.Now, shouldn't our own FAMILY operate that way? As we gather this Christmas/Chanukkah season, or whatever you celebrate, I hopeyou remember that THIS group, is different.Different than most people that you will pass walking down the street, who lookdown and don't say hi,>From a Civic Club like Rotary/kiwanis that gathers once a week and fines eachother for various newsworthy activities,Different than various hobby clubs that meet and share ideas and techniquesPiet People are seemingly joined by a project, values and time that ties them somehowto 1930. A time when people were neighborly, trusting and helpful.Somehow, inconceivably, the elements of the project attracts the person who seemsto resonate with the era of Americana values: to help others when others needhelp--- Remember the stories of Bernard Pietenpol himself leaving gas in theplane's tank so he could fly others to get help if needed in an emergency---Seems that sentiment follows the set of plans... or.. somehow those people areattracted to the plane itself.It's a mystery that will continue to follow the future generations of Piet builders.Merry Christmas.MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:08:20 +0000 (UTC)

Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 3:44 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Mark,Sure glad you can keep your PIET. And I hope you will be able to come back to CAsomeday to finish it. We need people like you in our State! If you ever needa contact in the northern part of the State, let me know and I will help inany way possible.Hope you can just continue building in TN, not just use your fuselage as a pieceof furniture.Hope to see you sometime and hear more from you,Ray KrauseBuilding SkyScoutSent from my iPad> On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:> > > Well, an update for any who are following my saga (and if you are, what a sadlife you lead!!) > > I got a call today from Tools (AKA Mike) and what a great guy. Ever since Idecided to build a Piet, I have met nothing but great guys and gals. I know otherhobbyists and car clubs, Gun enthusiasts, Ham Radio guys (I am one of thosetoo), etc... All those mutual interests have great people that participate.And I am sure they have their fair share of good folks too. But...> > I am and have been members of various "hobby" clubs (including Model Airplaneclubs most frequently over many locations) and I have NEVER met as nice and generouspeople as I have in the Piet community.> > Mike Cuy befriended me once with a DVD, and he knows me not. > > Gary Boothe visited me and bought my dinner when I had first ordered my plans(and still checks in occasionally to see if I am still breathing Piets...ANDrecently offered to store my project for me if I couldn't find a suitable solutionwhen I move...)> > Jim Boyer always made me feel important and was a great conversationalist atthe West Coast Piet June gatherings, and ...> > Mike and Vic Groah welcomed me to their home and let me sit in their yet to befinished project when I was just getting excited about the potential build.I was too fat and large to fit in, but the wooden shoe horn and Vic pushing onmy head got me sucked into the seat long enough for a picture...> > And... a man that I met on the first West Coast Piet gathering I attended, JimMarkle, offered to let me stay at his house as I traversed the country on myfirst trip to Nashville when I was relocating... I met him ONCE, and even thenthat was not why he offered to let me stay... He was just a member of this list!Good Lord...> > ...AND, this list, did a fundraiser for that same Jim when he was going to sellhis project to raise cash... (Good Grief folks: What group does THAT for anotherperson that many will never meet!!)...> > All of these memories (and many more: > > Charlie Miller giving my wife her first ride in a Piet and setting the "Hook"for me ;o) and it was a bumpy, windy day at that!)... AND all the food Charlieand his beautiful wife provided..., > > my friend Jorge in Hanford visiting a few times and sharing with me so many ideasand hours visiting about my build), > > being "inducted" into the Great Waldo Pepper phraseology club by watching a DVDof the movie given to me by Gary Boothe so I'd understand the inside jokeson the list, AND, the patience poor Gary had when first meeting me as I babbledon INCESSANTLY at that free dinner he took me to.. Poor man hasn't recoveredyet from the earful of non-stop talking I did that night...).... > > 4 years of West Coast Piet gatherings where I met and fellowshipped with MANYa good person,> > Yes, all of these memories are special to me, and at 54 (OMG... Why do I look76??), I am glad I can continue to make more memories with this group, as I cankeep my project, thanks to more friends I have yet to meet face to face, butoffering to house my project for me until I can get settled, and even then wheneverI am ready to pick it up.> > Now, shouldn't our own FAMILY operate that way? > > As we gather this Christmas/Chanukkah season, or whatever you celebrate, I hopeyou remember that THIS group, is different.> > Different than most people that you will pass walking down the street, who lookdown and don't say hi,> >> From a Civic Club like Rotary/kiwanis that gathers once a week and fines eachother for various newsworthy activities,> > Different than various hobby clubs that meet and share ideas and techniques> > Piet People are seemingly joined by a project, values and time that ties themsomehow to 1930. A time when people were neighborly, trusting and helpful.> > Somehow, inconceivably, the elements of the project attracts the person who seemsto resonate with the era of Americana values: to help others when othersneed help--- Remember the stories of Bernard Pietenpol himself leaving gas inthe plane's tank so he could fly others to get help if needed in an emergency---> > Seems that sentiment follows the set of plans... or.. somehow those people areattracted to the plane itself.> > It's a mystery that will continue to follow the future generations of Piet builders.> > Merry Christmas.> > Mark> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 072#436072> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:33 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: gliderx5(at)comcast.net
Malcolm;That is really interesting, and you make it look very easy to get a nice smoothfinish and a great shine! I'm sure it ends up requiring a lot of hours of workto do all of those steps for an entire airplane, but then again if you paintas you build (tail, fuselage, wings), it spreads the work out somewhat. Also,many Piet builders go for less of a shine and polish since the early Air Camperswere built for simple and low-cost building and flying. A little bit oforange peel and a little less shine would be perfectly acceptable if you wereflying your Piet off a grass pasture down on the farm and there were no judgeslooking at the paint job.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 02:56:21 +0000 (UTC)

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:01 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By:> "taildrags"
Oscar,Gary Booth used the Stewart System on his PIET but went right to a latex primer, then latex finishing coats, all with roller (I think). It is absolutely beautiful! It looks very Period like, not at all glossy. There are pictures on Westcoast Pietenpol. I'm going to follow his lead and go Stewart's covering then right to latex, no EkoFill. I also plan on using some clear coats of latex so it really looks semi transparent like the old planes.Thanks,Ray KrauseSkyScoutSent from my iPad> On Dec 26, 2014, at 6:56 PM, gliderx5(at)comcast.net wrote:> > Oscar> > You are quite correct on all counts. The process is not especially hard, but applying to an entire airplane does require a bit of time and elbow grease. Of course, it pales in comparison to how long it takes to build an entire airplane. I didn't say it on the last video but I have on some of the others, that the painted finish before sanding and polishing looks just fine as it is for some applications, vintage aircraft like Piets included. As you know, un-polished latex has been used on several Piets in the past and they look great. The hi-gloss, wet look would be truly out of place on such aircraft. That's great news for those looking for a flat or semi-gloss look. In fact, brush strokes in the paint might even be appropriate to give it more of an antique look. Either way, latex is simple and low cost, whether polished or not.> > I think I may have been a crow in a past life, I'm irresistibly attracted to shinny things!> > Malcolm Morrison> www.wienerdogaero.com>

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:46 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:54 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: glenschweizer(at)yahoo.com
So it is officially on its way to Nashville!!Thanks to Tools for offering to house it for me until I can find a place to buildit in Nashville. Anyone else building one without a garage? My wife supportsthe project, but refuses to let me build it in the living room... :(Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imag ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:19 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Time to replace her! A guy's gotta set priorities. Only kidding good luck in yournew home. Happy new year! GlenSent from my iPhone> On Dec 31, 2014, at 6:54 PM, "Mark Roberts" wrote:> > > So it is officially on its way to Nashville!!> > Thanks to Tools for offering to house it for me until I can find a place to buildit in Nashville. Anyone else building one without a garage? My wife supportsthe project, but refuses to let me build it in the living room... :(> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 475#436475> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_278.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_297.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_158.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_314.jpg> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:40 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Sure glad you did not have to sell it, Congratulations!Just yesterday I got my SkyScout all put together, rigged and ready to cover. Gary Boothe, Chris Tracy, Brian Reiger, his Dad, Mark, Merle Reppart, and a few others gathered for an inspection and critique.Gary even came back today to give me some guidance on covering the rudder, my first attempt at covering (may be seen in the picture).Thanks, everyone, for all the good advice! And Gary, thanks for the covering pointers and for the supplies. I should have the rudder done tomorrow. What a way to start the New Year!Thanks, everyone,Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Dec 31, 2014, at 6:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:> m>> > So it is officially on its way to Nashville!!> > Thanks to Tools for offering to house it for me until I can find a place to build it in Nashville. Anyone else building one without a garage? My wife supports the project, but refuses to let me build it in the living room... :(> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 475#436475> > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_278.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_297.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_158.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_314.jpg> > > > ============================================================================================================================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:07 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
It looks great Ray. What a great bunch of guys we can call our friends. Good luckin the new year.--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:11 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Mark Roberts"
Mark, have a safe trip. It has been a pleasure knowing you. Please.come back andjoin us in June. Best regards,--------Scott LiefeldFlying N11MS since March 1972Steel TubeC-85-12Wire WheelsBrodhead in 1996Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:28 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ray,It is a privilege to acquaint with such fine people as those who populatethe "Pietenpol Community." One can easily see that you are well-respected inyour town...for reasons including, and other than, those related to yourability to build flying machines. I hope 2015 is a good year for you...Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----

RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:31 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark,Best wishes to you and your wife in Tennessee. It's a brave thing to pick upand move all that distance. May 2015, and TN, be everything you are hopingfor...Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:55 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steven Dortch
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:53 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Mark Roberts"
Yes, I saw that video, very impressive. Would that we could all live such a wonderful and active life. My he rest in peace.Ray KrauseSent from my iPad> On Jan 2, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Boatright, Jeffrey wrote:> > That is sad news indeed. Graham and I corresponded several times over the years. Just last night I re-watched the youtube video of his maiden flight in his Pietenpol. He was active and "with it" right up to the end. > > =94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94=94> Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO> Professor of Ophthalmology> Emory University School of Medicine> Sent from an iPad with a spelling problem> > On Jan 2, 2015, at 9:52 PM, "John Woods" wrote:> >> Friends,>> >> It is with a heavy heart that I convey the sad news of the passing of our Australian Piet builder and pilot, Graham Hewitt, aged 86.>> >> Graham passed away just before Christmas after suffering a stroke.>> His funeral was today.>> >> Attached is a news article link from his home town in New Zealand.>> >> At 86, he was still performing aerobatics, wow! (Not in the Air Camper!)>> >> http://i.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news ... us-pioneer>> >> JohnW>> Perth, Australia>> >> >> ectric.com>> ">www.buildersbooks.com>> builthelp.com>> lotstore.com>> m>> .matronics.com/contribution>> ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>> ics.com>> > > > This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of> the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged> information. If the reader of this message is not the intended> recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution> or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly> prohibited.> > If you have received this message in error, please contact> the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the> original message (including attachments).> > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D> ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :(

RE: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:34 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael Hardaway
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88>rospace Corporation]" >> I have heard that you should NEVER mix T-88 during a full moon or> or if your dog is in heat.>> Otherwise, you just mix them 50/50 parts per volume and that is it.>> Wow-- I'm getting nauseated. Where is my Milk of Magnesia ?>> Mike C.>=====================>======>>=====================________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:07:51 -0700Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: special note about T-88