Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: shad bell

Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench

Original Posted By: "Gboothe5"
> now add levelers on each cross piece under the top! Or, just put some leg levellers under each leg, like a normal table.Here's an idea for some nice homemade ones.http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip010608sn.htmlI just drove a lag bolt vertically into the bottom of my table legs. Just screwthem in or out to level.Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
I made mine out of steel studs. They where relativelycheap, dead straight and don't warp. It is 14' X 4' by 24" high.Crossmembers each 24". Eight adjustable leg bolts.Because of all the existing tools, benches and stuff I hadto put it against a wall. Screwing it to that meant nobracing required. Lots of shelving underneath and space forthe compressor, extra airtank, planer and other importantstuff. Did I mention dead straight and level? Thank yousteel studs and threaded feet. :-)Clif> Or, just put some leg levellers under each leg, like a normal table.> Here's an idea for some nice homemade ones.> http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip010608sn.html>>> I just drove a lag bolt vertically into the bottom of my table legs. Just > screw them in or out to level.>> Bill C.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By:> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench

Original Posted By:orkbench=0A> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com=0A> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.c

Original Posted By: Kenneth Bickers
> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > > > mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> > Oh=2C one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to an old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He owns a steel fabrication company=2C and has a laser cutting machine for his fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"> > > One word of advice=2C be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings=2C cabane strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue about 1/2" longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made to the plans can create minor clearance issues. > > > mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?> > > www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this forum for us. I think the program is $50=2C but it allows you to track build time=2C photos and details=2C expense items=2C vendors=2C etc. You can post an online version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and will make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to see an example=2C check out my kitlog link in my signature below.> > --------> Mark Chouinard> Wings=2C Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage> > > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465> > > > > > > ============================================> > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:56:14 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Band Type Brake Cable

Original Posted By:> Michael Perez
> > > > > > Micheal,> > > > > > Look at Westcoastpiet under Dennis Hall. I took those> pictures myself at Brodhead. I basically used his set-up for> inspiration for mine. A picture is worth......you> know.> > > > > > Dan Helsper> > > Poplar Grove, IL.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original> Message----->

Original Posted By: Mike Tunnicliffe
>> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>>>>>>>> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in>> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to an>> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He owns a>> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for his>> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!>> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!">>>>>> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings, cabane>> strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue about 1/2">> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made to the>> plans can create minor clearance issues.>>>>>> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?>>>>>> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this forum for>> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build time,>> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an online>> version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and will>> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to see>> an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.>>>> -------->> Mark Chouinard>> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage>>>>>>>>>>>> Read this topic online here:>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465>>>>>>>>> &gt======================> &g===================>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:14:31 +1300

Original Posted By:> >> hangar10(at)cox.net
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted> by: Mark Roberts > > Well, at the risk of getting flamed, or worse yet, branded> as a Piet> Heretic, I am building my virtual Piet in Google Sketch Up> because of> some of the design elements I am changing to meet my> particular needs.> > At 6'4" and almost as big around, I am needing the extra> width to the> fuse (28" wide at the back seat) and I am lengthening the> nose a bit> (Per Bernard's suggestion due to a lighter motor), AND I am> using the> GA-30-613.5 airfoil. One last thing is the extra> bay's I am adding to> the wing tips and deepening the spars (keeping them at 1"> thick,> carefully routed for lightness) and moving the strut> connection points> out one bay to support the extra bays, and I felt I needed> to insure> the changes all fit when I hit the shop.> > I know that sounds like lots of changes, but the design> elements all> take the same Piet form, and I am building an airplane that> will be> mine until I decide I don't want it anymore, or can't fly,> so I felt> I'd build it to fit ME, not Bernard )> > I drew the metal parts (not fully completed) to fit the> changes, and> that included adding the 1/2" to the strut attachments all> around to> make the connections easier. I had read comments here about> that> already.> > Again, heresy I know, but it's gonna be mine when I'm done> )> > Sketchup allowed me to measure the proper distances, and to> correct> the tail sections to be the proper area to match the wing> changes,> etc. I know, one change creates a hundred others, but it's> kept my> head into the dream for a year and a half when I couldn't> buy spit.> So, it was accomplishing something for me and now I can> begin the> build proper...> > Thanks for all the feedback on the table. My first thing> I'll be doing> (after taking a trip to the Groah's with my camera) is to> build the> table. Once that is over I will feel as though I am really> gonna build> me a plane!> > Mark> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM, V Groah > wrote:> > Correctgood idea. Vic> >> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse> workbench

Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >>> > >>> >>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing> the metal parts up in> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program> so I can deliver them to an> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a> relationship with. He owns a> >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser> cutting machine for his> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the> parts? NO problem!> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those> parts for you to perfection!"> >>> >>> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut> attach fittings, cabane> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a> clearance issue about 1/2"> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that> some fittings made to the> >> plans can create minor clearance issues.> >>> >>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the> build log online?> >>> >>> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that> provide this forum for> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you> to track build time,> >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc.> You can post an online> >> version to the web and the print version is> formatted very nicely and will> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick> tool. If you want to see> >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my> signature below.> >>> >> --------> >> Mark Chouinard> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up -> Working on Fuselage> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Read this topic online here:> >>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465> >>> >>> >>> >>> > &gt======================> > &g===================> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > Email Forum -> FAQ,> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> List Contribution Web Site -> -Matt> Dralle, List Admin.> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:40:46 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench

Original Posted By:> > >> hangar10(at)cox.net
> > --> Pietenpol-List message posted> > by: Mark Roberts > >> > Well, at the risk of getting flamed, or worse yet, branded> > as a Piet> > Heretic, I am building my virtual Piet in Google Sketch Up> > because of> > some of the design elements I am changing to meet my> > particular needs.> >> > At 6'4" and almost as big around, I am needing the extra> > width to the> > fuse (28" wide at the back seat) and I am lengthening the> > nose a bit> > (Per Bernard's suggestion due to a lighter motor), AND I am> > using the> > GA-30-613.5 airfoil. One last thing is the extra> > bay's I am adding to> > the wing tips and deepening the spars (keeping them at 1"> > thick,> > carefully routed for lightness) and moving the strut> > connection points> > out one bay to support the extra bays, and I felt I needed> > to insure> > the changes all fit when I hit the shop.> >> > I know that sounds like lots of changes, but the design> > elements all> > take the same Piet form, and I am building an airplane that> > will be> > mine until I decide I don't want it anymore, or can't fly,> > so I felt> > I'd build it to fit ME, not Bernard )> >> > I drew the metal parts (not fully completed) to fit the> > changes, and> > that included adding the 1/2" to the strut attachments all> > around to> > make the connections easier. I had read comments here about> > that> > already.> >> > Again, heresy I know, but it's gonna be mine when I'm done> > )> >> > Sketchup allowed me to measure the proper distances, and to> > correct> > the tail sections to be the proper area to match the wing> > changes,> > etc. I know, one change creates a hundred others, but it's> > kept my> > head into the dream for a year and a half when I couldn't> > buy spit.> > So, it was accomplishing something for me and now I can> > begin the> > build proper...> >> > Thanks for all the feedback on the table. My first thing> > I'll be doing> > (after taking a trip to the Groah's with my camera) is to> > build the> > table. Once that is over I will feel as though I am really> > gonna build> > me a plane!> >> > Mark> >> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM, V Groah > > wrote:> > > Correct good idea. Vic> > >> > >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse> > workbench

Original Posted By: Charles Waldo
> > >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> > >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing> > the metal parts up in> > >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program> > so I can deliver them to an> > >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a> > relationship with. He owns a> > >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser> > cutting machine for his> > >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the> > parts? NO problem!> > >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those> > parts for you to perfection!"> > >>> > >>> > >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut> > attach fittings, cabane> > >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a> > clearance issue about 1/2"> > >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that> > some fittings made to the> > >> plans can create minor clearance issues.> > >>> > >>> > >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> > >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the> > build log online?> > >>> > >>> > >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that> > provide this forum for> > >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you> > to track build time,> > >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc.> > You can post an online> > >> version to the web and the print version is> > formatted very nicely and will> > >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick> > tool. If you want to see> > >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my> > signature below.> > >>> > >> --------> > >> Mark Chouinard> > >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up -> > Working on Fuselage> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Read this topic online here:> > >>> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > &gt======================> > > &g===================> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > Email Forum -> > FAQ,> > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -> > List Contribution Web Site -> > -Matt> > Dralle, List Admin.> >> >> >> >>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:50:09 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench

Original Posted By: airlion
> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >>> >>> >>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up in> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver them to> an> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He owns> a> >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for his> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to perfection!"> >>> >>> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings,> cabane> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue about> 1/2"> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made to> the> >> plans can create minor clearance issues.> >>> >>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?> >>> >>> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this forum> for> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build time,> >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an online> >> version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely and> will> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to> see> >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.> >>> >> --------> >> Mark Chouinard> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Read this topic online here:> >>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465> >>> >>> >>> >>> > &gt======================> > &g===================> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:50:53 -0800 (PST)

Original Posted By:>> >> hangar10(at)cox.net
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted>>> by: Mark Roberts >>>> Well, at the risk of getting flamed, or worse yet, branded>> as a Piet>> Heretic, I am building my virtual Piet in Google Sketch Up>> because of>> some of the design elements I am changing to meet my>> particular needs.>>>>> At 6'4" and almost as big around, I am needing the extra>> width to the>> fuse (28" wide at the back seat) and I am lengthening the>> nose a bit>> (Per Bernard's suggestion due to a lighter motor), AND I am>> using the>> GA-30-613.5 airfoil. One last thing is the extra>> bay's I am adding to>> the wing tips and deepening the spars (keeping them at 1">> thick,>> carefully routed for lightness) and moving the strut>> connection points>> out one bay to support the extra bays, and I felt I needed>> to insure>> the changes all fit when I hit the shop.>>>> I know that sounds like lots of changes, but the design>> elements all>> take the same Piet form, and I am building an airplane that>> will be>> mine until I decide I don't want it anymore, or can't fly,>> so I felt>> I'd build it to fit ME, not Bernard )>>>> I drew the metal parts (not fully completed) to fit the>> changes, and>> that included adding the 1/2" to the strut attachments all>> around to>> make the connections easier. I had read comments here about>> that>> already.>>>> Again, heresy I know, but it's gonna be mine when I'm done>> )>>>> Sketchup allowed me to measure the proper distances, and to>> correct>> the tail sections to be the proper area to match the wing>> changes,>> etc. I know, one change creates a hundred others, but it's>> kept my>> head into the dream for a year and a half when I couldn't>> buy spit.>> So, it was accomplishing something for me and now I can>> begin the>> build proper...>>>> Thanks for all the feedback on the table. My first thing>> I'll be doing>> (after taking a trip to the Groah's with my camera) is to>> build the>> table. Once that is over I will feel as though I am really>>> gonna build>> me a plane!>>>> Mark>>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM, V Groah >> wrote:>> > Correct good idea. Vic>> >>> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse>> workbench

Original Posted By: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP
>>> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> >>>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>>> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing>> the metal parts up in>> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program>> so I can deliver them to an>> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a>> relationship with. He owns a>> >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser>> cutting machine for his>> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the>> parts? NO problem!>> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those>> parts for you to perfection!">> >>>> >>>>> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut>> attach fittings, cabane>> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a>> clearance issue about 1/2">> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that>> some fittings made to the>> >> plans can create minor clearance issues.>> >>>> >>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>>> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the>> build log online?>> >>>> >>>>> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that>> provide this forum for>> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you>> to track build time,>> >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc.>> You can post an online>> >> version to the web and the print version is>> formatted very nicely and will>> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick>> tool. If you want to see>> >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my>> signature below.>> >>>> >> -------->>> >> Mark Chouinard>> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up ->> Working on Fuselage>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >> Read this topic online here:>> >>>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > &gt======================>> > &g===================>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> Email Forum ->> FAQ,>> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS ->> List Contribution Web Site ->> -Matt>> Dralle, List Admin.>>>>>>>>>>>>==========>st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... =======>le, List Admin.>="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution>= ... ______Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:51:24 -0800 (PST)

Original Posted By:> >> hangar10(at)cox.net
> Mark> > Could you post a Jpg of your piet model in> sketchup? Just wanted to see what yourmodel looks like and> how far along you are on it.....> > Chuck> > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011> at 10:47 PM, Mark Roberts > wrote:> > --> Pietenpol-List> message posted by: Mark Roberts > > > Well, at the risk of getting flamed, or worse yet, branded> as a Piet> Heretic, I am building my virtual Piet in Google Sketch Up> because of> some of the design elements I am changing to meet my> particular needs.> > > At 6'4" and almost as big around, I am needing the> extra width to the> fuse (28" wide at the back seat) and I am lengthening> the nose a bit> (Per Bernard's suggestion due to a lighter motor), AND> I am using the> > GA-30-613.5 airfoil. One last thing is the extra> bay's I am adding to> the wing tips and deepening the spars (keeping them at> 1" thick,> carefully routed for lightness) and moving the strut> connection points> > out one bay to support the extra bays, and I felt I needed> to insure> the changes all fit when I hit the shop.> > I know that sounds like lots of changes, but the design> elements all> take the same Piet form, and I am building an airplane that> will be> > mine until I decide I don't want it anymore, or> can't fly, so I felt> I'd build it to fit ME, not Bernard )> > I drew the metal parts (not fully completed) to fit the> changes, and> that included adding the 1/2" to the strut attachments> all around to> > make the connections easier. I had read comments here about> that> already.> > Again, heresy I know, but it's gonna be mine when> I'm done )> > Sketchup allowed me to measure the proper distances, and to> correct> > the tail sections to be the proper area to match the wing> changes,> etc. I know, one change creates a hundred others, but> it's kept my> head into the dream for a year and a half when I> couldn't buy spit.> So, it was accomplishing something for me and now I can> begin the> > build proper...> > Thanks for all the feedback on the table. My first thing> I'll be doing> (after taking a trip to the Groah's with my camera) is> to build the> table. Once that is over I will feel as though I am really> gonna build> > me a plane!> > Mark> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM, V Groah > wrote:> > Correctgood idea. Vic> >> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse> workbench>

Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >>> > "K5YAC" > >>> >>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> > >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing> the metal parts up in> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program> so I can deliver them to an> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a> relationship with. He owns a> > >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser> cutting machine for his> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick> are the parts? NO problem!> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those> parts for you to perfection!"> > >>> >>> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut> attach fittings, cabane> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a> clearance issue about 1/2"> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that> some fittings made to the> > >> plans can create minor clearance issues.> >>> >>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the> build log online?> > >>> >>> >> www.mykitlog.com is> powered by the same fella that provide this forum for> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you> to track build time,> > >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc.> You can post an online> >> version to the web and the print version is> formatted very nicely and will> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick> tool. If you want to see> > >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my> signature below.> >>> >> --------> >> Mark Chouinard> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up -> Working on Fuselage> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Read this topic online here:> >>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > &gt======================> > &g===================> >>> >&=====> > -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,> > ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"> target="_blank">ht======> > http://forums.mle, List> Admin.> > ====> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Band Type Brake Cable

Original Posted By:>> >> hangar10(at)cox.net
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted>> by: Mark Roberts >>>> Well, at the risk of getting flamed, or worse yet, branded>> as a Piet>> Heretic, I am building my virtual Piet in Google Sketch Up>> because of>> some of the design elements I am changing to meet my>> particular needs.>>>> At 6'4" and almost as big around, I am needing the extra>> width to the>> fuse (28" wide at the back seat) and I am lengthening the>> nose a bit>> (Per Bernard's suggestion due to a lighter motor), AND I am>> using the>> GA-30-613.5 airfoil. One last thing is the extra>> bay's I am adding to>> the wing tips and deepening the spars (keeping them at 1">> thick,>> carefully routed for lightness) and moving the strut>> connection points>> out one bay to support the extra bays, and I felt I needed>> to insure>> the changes all fit when I hit the shop.>>>> I know that sounds like lots of changes, but the design>> elements all>> take the same Piet form, and I am building an airplane that>> will be>> mine until I decide I don't want it anymore, or can't fly,>> so I felt>> I'd build it to fit ME, not Bernard )>>>> I drew the metal parts (not fully completed) to fit the>> changes, and>> that included adding the 1/2" to the strut attachments all>> around to>> make the connections easier. I had read comments here about>> that>> already.>>>> Again, heresy I know, but it's gonna be mine when I'm done>> )>>>> Sketchup allowed me to measure the proper distances, and to>> correct>> the tail sections to be the proper area to match the wing>> changes,>> etc. I know, one change creates a hundred others, but it's>> kept my>> head into the dream for a year and a half when I couldn't>> buy spit.>> So, it was accomplishing something for me and now I can>> begin the>> build proper...>>>> Thanks for all the feedback on the table. My first thing>> I'll be doing>> (after taking a trip to the Groah's with my camera) is to>> build the>> table. Once that is over I will feel as though I am really>> gonna build>> me a plane!>>>> Mark>>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM, V Groah >> wrote:>> > Correctgood idea. Vic>> >>> >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse>> workbench

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
>> >> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> >> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up>> >> >> > in>> >> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver>> >> >> > them>> >> >> > to an>> >> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He>> >> >> > owns>> >> >> > a>> >> >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for his>> >> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!>> >> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to>> >> >> > perfection!">> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach fittings,>> >> >> cabane>> >> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue>> >> >> about>> >> >> 1/2">> >> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings made>> >> >> to>> >> >> the>> >> >> plans can create minor clearance issues.>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> >> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this>> >> >> forum>> >> >> for>> >> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build>> >> >> time,>> >> >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an>> >> >> online>> >> >> version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely>> >> >> and>> >> >> will>> >> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you want>> >> >> to>> >> >> see>> >> >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.>> >> >>>> >> >> -------->> >> >> Mark Chouinard>> >> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> >>>> >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> > &gt======================>> >> > &g===================>> >> >>>> >> >&=====>> >> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,>> >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">> >> target="_blank">ht======>> >> http://forums.mle, List Admin.>> >> ====>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ===========>> ===========>> ===========>> ===========>> >>> >>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Charles Waldo
> >> >> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> >> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up> >> >> >> > in> >> >> >> > Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can deliver> >> >> >> > them> >> >> >> > to an> >> >> >> > old acquaintance I have recently renewed a relationship with. He> >> >> >> > owns> >> >> >> > a> >> >> >> > steel fabrication company, and has a laser cutting machine for> his> >> >> >> > fabrication plant. He said "How thick are the parts? NO problem!> >> >> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to> >> >> >> > perfection!"> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach> fittings,> >> >> >> cabane> >> >> >> strut fittings and anything else that might be a clearance issue> >> >> >> about> >> >> >> 1/2"> >> >> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings> made> >> >> >> to> >> >> >> the> >> >> >> plans can create minor clearance issues.> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> >> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this> >> >> >> forum> >> >> >> for> >> >> >> us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to track build> >> >> >> time,> >> >> >> photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. You can post an> >> >> >> online> >> >> >> version to the web and the print version is formatted very nicely> >> >> >> and> >> >> >> will> >> >> >> make a nice hardcopy of the log book. Pretty slick tool. If you> want> >> >> >> to> >> >> >> see> >> >> >> an example, check out my kitlog link in my signature below.> >> >> >>> >> >> >> --------> >> >> >> Mark Chouinard> >> >> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on> Fuselage> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:> >> >> >>> >> >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > &gt======================> >> >> > &g===================> >> >> >>> >> >> >&=====> >> >> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,> >> >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"> >> >> target="_blank">ht======> >> >> http://forums.mle, List Admin.> >> >> ====> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ===========> >> ===========> >> ===========> >> ===========> >> >> >> >> >> >>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:17:25 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
>> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up >> >> > in Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can >> >> > deliver them to an old acquaintance I have recently renewed a >> >> > relationship with. He owns a steel fabrication company, and has >> >> > a laser cutting machine for his fabrication plant. He said "How >> >> > thick are the parts? NO problem!>> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to >> >> > perfection!">> >>>> >>>> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach >> >> fittings, cabane strut fittings and anything else that might be a >> >> clearance issue about 1/2">> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings >> >> made to the plans can create minor clearance issues.>> >>>> >>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?>> >>>> >>>> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this >> >> forum for us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to >> >> track build time, photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc. >> >> You can post an online version to the web and the print version is >> >> formatted very nicely and will make a nice hardcopy of the log >> >> book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to see an example, check out >> >> my kitlog link in my signature below.>> >>>> >> -------->> >> Mark Chouinard>> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on >> >> Fuselage>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Read this topic online here:>> >>>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > &gt======================>> > &g===================>> >>>> >&=====>> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">> target="_blank">ht======>> http://forums.mle, List Admin.>> ====>>>>>>>>============================================>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
>>> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>>> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up>>> >> > in Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can>>> >> > deliver them to an old acquaintance I have recently renewed a>>> >> > relationship with. He owns a steel fabrication company, and has>>> >> > a laser cutting machine for his fabrication plant. He said "How>>> >> > thick are the parts? NO problem!>>> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to>>> >> > perfection!">>> >>>>> >>>>> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach>>> >> fittings, cabane strut fittings and anything else that might be a>>> >> clearance issue about 1/2">>> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings>>> >> made to the plans can create minor clearance issues.>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:>>> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this>>> >> forum for us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to>>> >> track build time, photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc.>>> >> You can post an online version to the web and the print version is>>> >> formatted very nicely and will make a nice hardcopy of the log>>> >> book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to see an example, check out>>> >> my kitlog link in my signature below.>>> >>>>> >> -------->>> >> Mark Chouinard>>> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on>>> >> Fuselage>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> Read this topic online here:>>> >>>>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > &gt======================>>> > &g===================>>> >>>>> >&=====>>> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,>>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">>> target="_blank">ht======>>> http://forums.mle, List Admin.>>> ====>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===========> ===========> ===========> ===========>>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Richard's Piet on wire wheels for first time inhis shop in Indiana>AEROSPACE CORP]" >>> Outstanding to see you're great winter progress and the photo update ofyour Pietenpol Rick ! Your wire wheels look great, your> landing gear legs nice and streamlined and nose fuel tank all strappeddown in place. Center section done and tailfeathers. >> Sure looks inspiring to those of us who are flying, those who are stillbuilding, and even to those who have JUST started building. > You've stuck in out year after year and keep plugging away and the fruitsof your labor are really, really starting to show nicely. >> One you move your project to the hangar this spring expect lots and lotsof curious visitors and be ready to answer a myriad of > questions--but you'll enjoy it. Just tell them before you will answerany question they must bring a donation to help keep your> hangar fridge stocked with refreshments:) >> Mike C.>>> -----> No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:07:09 -0800Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Plans for a good fuse workbench

Original Posted By: "Billy McCaskill"
> >> >> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> >> > Oh, one other really cool thing: I am drawing the metal parts up> >> >> > in Sketch Up and cleaning them in my CAD program so I can> >> >> > deliver them to an old acquaintance I have recently renewed a> >> >> > relationship with. He owns a steel fabrication company, and has> >> >> > a laser cutting machine for his fabrication plant. He said "How> >> >> > thick are the parts? NO problem!> >> >> > Bring me the pans and I'll cut all those parts for you to> >> >> > perfection!"> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> One word of advice, be sure to make the lift strut attach> >> >> fittings, cabane strut fittings and anything else that might be a> >> >> clearance issue about 1/2"> >> >> longer (perhaps others can chime in). I know that some fittings> >> >> made to the plans can create minor clearance issues.> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> mark.rbrts1(at)gmail.com wrote:> >> >> > Any suggestions on programs to use for the build log online?> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> www.mykitlog.com is powered by the same fella that provide this> >> >> forum for us. I think the program is $50, but it allows you to> >> >> track build time, photos and details, expense items, vendors, etc.> >> >> You can post an online version to the web and the print version is> >> >> formatted very nicely and will make a nice hardcopy of the log> >> >> book. Pretty slick tool. If you want to see an example, check out> >> >> my kitlog link in my signature below.> >> >>> >> >> --------> >> >> Mark Chouinard> >> >> Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on> >> >> Fuselage> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Read this topic online here:> >> >>> >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 465#330465> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > &gt======================> >> > &g===================> >> >>> >> >&=====> >> -Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,> >> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"> >> target="_blank">ht======> >> http://forums.mle, List Admin.> >> ====> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ===========> ===========> ===========> ===========> >> >>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Posting photos