Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Has anybody ever designed a set of metal spars for the Piet/Gregafor those who may have trouble getting spar grade spruce planks?John Kahn________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: ehagness(at)mail.interconnect.net (Ernest Hagness)
Hi John,Quite a few years back, I recall reading that someone used extrudedaluminum spars identical to those used on the Piper J-3... except forlength, of course. I believe he also used the USA 35 B airfoil thatwas used on many Pipers instead of the Pietenpol airfoil.There was a Pietenpol with shortened Cub wings in Saskatchewan ad-vertised for sale 2 or 3 years ago, but I don't know whether the spars were of spruce or aluminum.Piper spar extrusions were, and probably still are, available fromUnivair. Likely, they are no more expensive than aircraft qualityspruce.You can get spar grade spruce from Western Aircraft Supplies inCalgary. I have seen his spruce and it is excellent. Not cheap,though. Cheers,Graham Hansen On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, John Kahn wrote:> Has anybody ever designed a set of metal spars for the Piet/Grega> for those who may have trouble getting spar grade spruce planks?> > > > John Kahn> ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By:> grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
I purchased thw spar and package from Western Spruce. No problems, and cutto dimension. Saved me a lot of time. On time delivery and flawless!

Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
IanIf I may ask, how much was the spruce package you gotfrom Western? Was that all the longerons, cap stripsand spars cut to dimension? Also what was the shipping cost?There are local suppliers here in Ontario, but theavailability of lumber seems spotty.ThanksJohn KahnBombardier Inc.Toronto________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By:> > grhans(at)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Hi,I have to agree here, Western Aircraft Supplies here in Calgary is a goodplace to look. Thier number is (403)275-3513. > I purchased thw spar and package from Western Spruce. No problems, and cut> to dimension. Saved me a lot of time. On time delivery and flawless!> > ----------

Original Posted By:> John Kahn
The package ran about $1700 US as I recall. It included all wood except plyand the white ash required. Capstrips were cut to dimension, as werelongerons and leadind/trailing edges. Only a light planing was required onthe larger members. i did not touch the capstrips other than to cut tolength. Spars were dimensioned and cut to length, but not routed. 3/4 "thick and three piece wing only option. Shipping cost from Calgary toThunder Bay was $100 plus change. Whole thing was packaged in two saunatubes 12 feet long and 14feet long.Delivery from order placement to arrivalwas about 2 weeks. Any thing else, you can come at me atIholland@microage_tb.com, or continue on the open line.

Original Posted By: Ian Holland
> > Hi John,> > Quite a few years back, I recall reading that someone used extruded> aluminum spars identical to those used on the Piper J-3... except for> length, of course. I believe he also used the USA 35 B airfoil that> was used on many Pipers instead of the Pietenpol airfoil.> > There was a Pietenpol with shortened Cub wings in Saskatchewan ad-> vertised for sale 2 or 3 years ago, but I don't know whether the > spars were of spruce or aluminum.> > Piper spar extrusions were, and probably still are, available from> Univair. Likely, they are no more expensive than aircraft quality> spruce.> > You can get spar grade spruce from Western Aircraft Supplies in> Calgary. I have seen his spruce and it is excellent. Not cheap,> though. Cheers,> > Graham Hansen> > > On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, John Kahn wrote:> > > Has anybody ever designed a set of metal spars for the Piet/Grega> > for those who may have trouble getting spar grade spruce planks?> > > > > > > > John Kahn> > > ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: dswagler(at)cobkf.ang.af.mil
> > > > You can get spar grade spruce from Western Aircraft Supplies in> > Calgary. I have seen his spruce and it is excellent. Not cheap,> > though. Cheers,> > > > Graham Hansen> > > > > > On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, John Kahn wrote:> > > > > Has anybody ever designed a set of metal spars for the Piet/Grega> > > for those who may have trouble getting spar grade spruce planks?> > > > > > > > > > > > John Kahn> > > > > Hope this helps,Ken________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: ehagness(at)mail.interconnect.net (Ernest Hagness)
> > Ian> > If I may ask, how much was the spruce package you got> from Western? Was that all the longerons, cap strips> and spars cut to dimension? Also what was the > shipping cost?> > > There are local suppliers here in Ontario, but the> availability of lumber seems spotty.> > Thanks> > John Kahn> Bombardier Inc.> Toronto________________________________________________________________________________