Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Barry Davis
Just started seriously stitching my wings.One thing to say.Anyone who has successfully rib laced a whole wing by themself is now myhero.Stevee.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: adamson@add-inc.com (Adamson, Arden)
writes:> Just started seriously stitching my wings.>>One thing to say.>>Anyone who has successfully rib laced a whole wing by themself is now >my>hero.>>Stevee.Are you using the old elastic strap trick?Pre-poke the holes?Light on the other side?Wing on edge?While you are doing it, remember that mice like to chew on dacronthread!!!!T'craft martin fabric wire is nice !!!JimV.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: JRoss10612(at)aol.com
> Just started seriously stitching my wings.>>One thing to say.>>Anyone who has successfully rib laced a whole wing by themself is now my>hero.>>Stevee.masking tape on critical parts of the hands which can get bloody quickly from the lacing. By the way, congratulations on running your engine ! Isn't it great tofeel the prop wash, smell the av gas burning, and feel the rumblingthrough the fuselage ? It is alive ! MC________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
>O.K. Jim,I can tell you are chomping at the bit to share some of your wisdom of theages. Please, oh sage, enlighten us regarding the intricacies of ribstitching!!!!John________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
JGreenlee(at)aol.com wrote:>> Pre-poke the holes?>Yep> Light on the other side?yep> Wing on edge?yep> While you are doing it, remember that mice like to chew on dacron> thread!!!!>Rather not hear about it.> T'craft martin fabric wire is nice !!!>What is fabric wire?-Steve e.PS. One wing down, one left to go! Thanks to my wife for learning thefiner points of rib stitching while on the job with me. I took Fridayoff (my birthday) and worked till my fingers hurt. ONe wing panel readyfor paint and other ready for stitches!Later,steve________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Dean Dayton
Hi,> -Steve e.> > PS. One wing down, one left to go! Thanks to my wife for learning the> finer points of rib stitching while on the job with me. I took Friday> off (my birthday) and worked till my fingers hurt. ONe wing panel ready> for paint and other ready for stitches!> > Later,> > steve> Just curious, how many hours has it taken so far to fabric the wings? I havethe same process to look forward to in a month or so.Thanks,Ken________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: arkiesacres(at)juno.com
>Doug,> Do the rib stitching together. Passing those needles back and>forth is a great social activity, you'll have quality time together and>she will have more "ownership" in your plane.>TomDoug- Tom is right about this. Personally, once I figured out howto rib stitch I really, really enjoyed it. Karen did two or three ribs andloves to point them out at fly-in's to people !! Now I wouldn't wantto do a Beech Staggerwing where the knots are about 1" apart though !!!Mike C. Doug, Do the rib stitching together.Passing those needles back andforth is a great social activity, you'll have quality time togetherandshe will have more ownership in your plane.TomDoug- Tom is right about this. Personally, once I figuredout howto rib stitch I really, really enjoyed it. Karen did two or threeribs andloves to point them out at fly-in's to people !! Now Iwouldn't wantto do a Beech Staggerwing where the knots are about 1 apart though!!!Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "David B. Schober"
Another thought. Get as many needles as you can. Start as many ribs asyou have needles and pass them through on one side then walk around andpass them back. Saves a lot of foot work! With 4 needles, I could do aTriPacer wing in about 4 hours.Michael Cuy wrote:>> >Doug,> > Do the rib stitching together. Passing those needles back and> >forth is a great social activity, you'll have quality time together> and> >she will have more "ownership" in your plane.> >Tom>> Doug- Tom is right about this. Personally, once I figured out how> to rib stitch I really, really enjoyed it. Karen did two or three> ribs and> loves to point them out at fly-in's to people !! Now I wouldn't want>> to do a Beech Staggerwing where the knots are about 1" apart though> !!!> Mike C.--David B.Schober, CPEInstructor, Aviation MaintenanceFairmont State CollegeNational Aerospace Education CenterRt. 3 Box 13Bridgeport, WV 26330-9503(304) 842-8300Another thought. Get as many needles as you can. Start as many ribs asyou have needles and pass them through on one side then walk around andpass them back. Saves a lot of foot work! With 4 needles, I could do aTriPacer wing in about 4 hours.Michael Cuy wrote:>Doug,> Do the rib stitching together.Passing those needles back and>forth is a great social activity, you'll have quality time togetherand>she will have more "ownership" in your plane.>TomDoug- Tom is right about this. Personally, once I figuredout howto rib stitch I really, really enjoyed it. Karen did two orthree ribs andloves to point them out at fly-in's to people !!Now I wouldn't wantto do a Beech Staggerwing where the knots are about 1" apart though!!!Mike C.--David B.Schober, CPEInstructor, Aviation MaintenanceFairmont State CollegeNational Aerospace Education CenterRt. 3 Box 13Bridgeport, WV 26330-9503(304) 842-8300________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Patrick Panzera
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Stitching>When you are getting ready to stitch, buy as many long needles as you can>afford. Mark all the holes, punch them with a needle, then start each>needle on a different rib. Pass all of them through to the other side,>walk around and pass them back. For each needle you use, multiply that by>how many stitches per rib and you save that many trips back and forth!>The last airplane I did, Icould stitch a wing panel in about 4 hours>alone.>>Michael D Cuy wrote:>>> Anyone going to Oshkosh can learn to ribstitch for free at the>> Polyfiber tent. They have a tutor there who will guide you thru>> the right way to do this process. We took a video camera and>> recorded this so by the time it came to do the plane we could>> refresh our memory. They also lecture and demonstrate the other>> fabric covering steps. I really liked covering best of all the other>> parts of building the Piet. (had never covered before). Maybe it>> was the fumes from the MEK and buterayte dope, I dunno.>>>> Mike C.>>>-->**>>David B.Schober, CPE>Instructor, Aviation Maintenance>Fairmont State College>National Aerospace Education Center>1050 East Benedum Industrial Drive>Bridgeport, WV 26330-9503>(304) 842-8300>>________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Randall Reihing
Anyone going to Oshkosh can learn to ribstitch for free at thePolyfiber tent. They have a tutor there who will guide you thruthe right way to do this process. We took a video camera andrecorded this so by the time it came to do the plane we couldrefresh our memory. They also lecture and demonstrate the otherfabric covering steps. I really liked covering best of all the otherparts of building the Piet. (had never covered before). Maybe itwas the fumes from the MEK and buterayte dope, I dunno.Mike C. ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Earl Myers
When you are getting ready to stitch, buy as many long needles as you canafford. Mark all the holes, punch them with a needle, then start eachneedle on a different rib. Pass all of them through to the other side,walk around and pass them back. For each needle you use, multiply that byhow many stitches per rib and you save that many trips back and forth!The last airplane I did, Icould stitch a wing panel in about 4 hoursalone.Michael D Cuy wrote:> Anyone going to Oshkosh can learn to ribstitch for free at the> Polyfiber tent. They have a tutor there who will guide you thru> the right way to do this process. We took a video camera and> recorded this so by the time it came to do the plane we could> refresh our memory. They also lecture and demonstrate the other> fabric covering steps. I really liked covering best of all the other> parts of building the Piet. (had never covered before). Maybe it> was the fumes from the MEK and buterayte dope, I dunno.>> Mike C.--David B.Schober, CPEInstructor, Aviation MaintenanceFairmont State CollegeNational Aerospace Education Center1050 East Benedum Industrial DriveBridgeport, WV 26330-9503(304) 842-8300________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Oh, esxpusure tooo theee fummmes frooom thhhe chemmicals wooont efffectyooou, likke mmmakinnng yyyyou fforget what kkkeys yyyou hhavve tttyped iin.Get a resperator, even to watch a demo of this stuff. Nitrate, Butrate, MEK(Methel Ethel Keytone- which is also used as a composite hardener) are someof the worst commonly available chemicals known, and they are cumulative ineffect. You can get sensitized to them, and once you do your airplanefinishing/ repairing career is over for life. I personally insist on "full"gear (resperator, gloves and tyveks), but then I used to work withcomposites full time so already have a good dose of them.Mike----- Original Message -----________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Mike Lund
Michael D Cuy wrote:> > Anyone going to Oshkosh can learn to ribstitch for free at the> Polyfiber tent. They have a tutor there who will guide you thru> the right way to do this process. We took a video camera and> recorded this so by the time it came to do the plane we could> refresh our memory. They also lecture and demonstrate the other> fabric covering steps. I really liked covering best of all the other> parts of building the Piet. (had never covered before). Maybe it> was the fumes from the MEK and buterayte dope, I dunno.> > Mike C.Mike,For those of us way down south or out west that may not be able to makeOshkosh, Polyfiber goes to Sun N Fun with a tent and workshop , too. That'll be in April.Bert________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: David B. Schober
OR......Take a welding rod, cut to appropriate length, pound one end flat, drill alittle hole in it, and shape the other end on your belt sander. Maybe bendthe pointed end to the appropriate shape for as well.....Cheap needles.John-----Original Message-----________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Dave Nielsen
HONK..if you have ever experienced rib-stitching a wing solo! Stitches only,excluding marking and re-enforcing tape, 8 hrs 40 minutes. That wasn't sobad, considering that I have 10 times that much in my cowling.or 5 timesthat much in the wind screens!Gary BootheNX308MB________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib Stitching

Original Posted By: Gary Boothe
Hey man, nice picture, good job. HONK HONK "Bat Cave" Dave-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: airlion

Original Posted By: Ben Charvet
Hello Hans,I am building an Avid Flyer and wanted to check the place you sourced your floorboard? I wanted to install a wood grain floor board pattern for my aircraft,just like yours!Your pictures look good! Thanks!MaheshUtahRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib Stitching

Original Posted By: Michael Groah
That sounds very similar to my experience. The wing rotator helps alot. I had a similar setup. After a few ribs i figured out how much cord it took to do the whole rib with one piece. Lots more fun than i thought it would beBen CharvetNX966BCSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 29, 2011, at 5:55 PM, "Gary Boothe" wrote:> HONK.if you have ever experienced rib-stitching a wing solo! Stitches only, excluding marking and re-enforcing tape, 8 hrs 40 minutes. That wasn=99t so bad, considering that I have 10 times that much in my cowlingor 5 times that much in the wind screens!> > > > Gary Boothe> NX308MB> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:52:34 -0800 (PST)

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I did mine laying flat, without a wing rotator. Took about 12 hours perwing, which is a lot of trips under the wing. My back was sore for weeks.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
5 arm stretches per rib. 4 for the short ones.Gary BootheNX308MB

Original Posted By: Jim Boyer

Original Posted By: Jim Boyer

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Awesome Gary... you are really getting it together!--------Mark ChouinardWings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on FuselageRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Just say the Word, Jim!Gary BootheNX308MB

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Nuthin' there, Dan-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
...still nuthin'...Gary BootheNX308MB-----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Rib stitching is to be rejoiced! It's a rite of passage!...and it's not allthat bad. My son helped with wing #1, but the 2nd wing I did by myself.8hrs!...a good opportunity to reflect on the slowy goodness of Pietenpols.Gary BootheNX308MB

Original Posted By: Matt Dralle

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Working by myself it took me about 12 hours per wing to rib-lace. I did thefirst wing in one day. On the second wing I spaced it out over 3 days. Ifound it very satisfying.Jack PhillipsNX899JPSmith Mountain Lake, Virginia _____

Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
I thought it was kinda fun...my wife would say the whole time i was building.. " I'm gonna help stitch"well.. i showed her a few stitches and she replied.."uhh...i can't do that.."I assured here she could but she wouldn't ..so i did it all.It was a kinda zen couple of daysjeffRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:14:48 -0800