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Pietenpol-List: 29R flies again.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 1998 11:06 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: joe czaplicki
Yesterday morning I took to the skies again after the gear rebuild. Awhopping six minute flight, but Iearned a great deal about my gear change.I am very please with the modification to my gear second time around. Ibuild my first set to gear legs to the plans except for moving the axlesforward three inches (on account of the addition of brakes.) On this newset I increased the length of the gear legs 2.5 inches, keeping the sameangle from the fuse (50 degrees) This raised the fuse, increasing the deckangle slightly, and also widening the gear track. I also moved the axlesback 1.5 inches, changing the moment of the aircraft on the ground. Thenoticable result was a lighter tail on take off and landing, and greatlyimproved directional stability. I had a great time on landing. Toucheddown and then since I had a long taxi, I lifted the tail and wheeled it for3000' without a wiggle. CoolSteve back in the saddle (bucket) E.________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: 29R flies again.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 1998 12:49 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: steve(at)byu.edu
steve-e thnx for the gear update, very usefull info as I too am building aA65 powered short fuse Piet. don't remember if I asked you in the past butwhatdistance did you end up with between firewall and engine mounts???happy landings &keep the round side up joe czion, ill>>Yesterday morning I took to the skies again after the gear rebuild. A>whopping six minute flight, but Iearned a great deal about my gear change.>I am very please with the modification to my gear second time around. I>build my first set to gear legs to the plans except for moving the axles>forward three inches (on account of the addition of brakes.) On this new>set I increased the length of the gear legs 2.5 inches, keeping the same>angle from the fuse (50 degrees) This raised the fuse, increasing the deck>angle slightly, and also widening the gear track. I also moved the axles>back 1.5 inches, changing the moment of the aircraft on the ground. The>noticable result was a lighter tail on take off and landing, and greatly>improved directional stability. I had a great time on landing. Touched>down and then since I had a long taxi, I lifted the tail and wheeled it for>3000' without a wiggle. Cool>>Steve back in the saddle (bucket) E.>>________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: 29R flies again.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 1998 1:17 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: michael list
12.5 INCHES, but I depending on your (pilot) weight I would add moredistance. A sample weight and balance is the only way to go if you want toavoid the headache of depending *solely* on adjusting the CG by moving thewing. (I did't include adjusting the weight of the pilot, because I amfinding that much more diffucult....)Steve E.-----Original Message-----czaplickiSent: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 11:50 AMSubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 29R flies again.steve-e thnx for the gear update, very usefull info as I too am building aA65 powered short fuse Piet. don't remember if I asked you in the past butwhatdistance did you end up with between firewall and engine mounts???happy landings &keep the round side upjoe czion, ill>>Yesterday morning I took to the skies again after the gear rebuild. A>whopping six minute flight, but Iearned a great deal about my gear change.>I am very please with the modification to my gear second time around. I>build my first set to gear legs to the plans except for moving the axles>forward three inches (on account of the addition of brakes.) On this new>set I increased the length of the gear legs 2.5 inches, keeping the same>angle from the fuse (50 degrees) This raised the fuse, increasing the deck>angle slightly, and also widening the gear track. I also moved the axles>back 1.5 inches, changing the moment of the aircraft on the ground. The>noticable result was a lighter tail on take off and landing, and greatly>improved directional stability. I had a great time on landing. Touched>down and then since I had a long taxi, I lifted the tail and wheeled it for>3000' without a wiggle. Cool>>Steve back in the saddle (bucket) E.>>________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: 29R flies again.

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 1998 10:24 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: pilot00(at)earthlink.net
Steve,You must be a wild man with that torch to get a new gear made up soquick! Thanks for your updates!Mike Liststeve(at)byu.edu wrote:> > Yesterday morning I took to the skies again after the gear rebuild. A> whopping six minute flight, but Iearned a great deal about my gear change.> I am very please with the modification to my gear second time around. I> build my first set to gear legs to the plans except for moving the axles> forward three inches (on account of the addition of brakes.) On this new> set I increased the length of the gear legs 2.5 inches, keeping the same> angle from the fuse (50 degrees) This raised the fuse, increasing the deck> angle slightly, and also widening the gear track. I also moved the axles> back 1.5 inches, changing the moment of the aircraft on the ground. The> noticable result was a lighter tail on take off and landing, and greatly> improved directional stability. I had a great time on landing. Touched> down and then since I had a long taxi, I lifted the tail and wheeled it for> 3000' without a wiggle. Cool> > Steve back in the saddle (bucket) E.________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: 29R flies again.

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 1998 2:48 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: ADonJr(at)aol.com
just started my piet. please send more details about the gear with brakes.am planning to possibly use cessna type 600x6 with brakes.and what engine did you use??thanks>>Yesterday morning I took to the skies again after the gear rebuild. A>whopping six minute flight, but Iearned a great deal about my gear change.>I am very please with the modification to my gear second time around. I>build my first set to gear legs to the plans except for moving the axles>forward three inches (on account of the addition of brakes.) On this new>set I increased the length of the gear legs 2.5 inches, keeping the same>angle from the fuse (50 degrees) This raised the fuse, increasing the deck>angle slightly, and also widening the gear track. I also moved the axles>back 1.5 inches, changing the moment of the aircraft on the ground. The>noticable result was a lighter tail on take off and landing, and greatly>improved directional stability. I had a great time on landing. Touched>down and then since I had a long taxi, I lifted the tail and wheeled it for>3000' without a wiggle. Cool>>Steve back in the saddle (bucket) E.>>________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: 29R flies again.

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 1998 6:54 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: rdecosta(at)autoeurope.com (Richard DeCosta)
Steve,I know you gave this data before, but I must not have been paying attention.What is 29R's empty weight? How far back did you move your wing? After a lot of delay, I'm back to the construction of my Aircamper, (theMissus gave me the best argument against the Sky Scout - "It's only got oneseat!"). I'll be starting the vertical tail this week. Tanx for all yourinfo and inspiration!Don________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Re: 29R flies again.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 1998 9:59 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Craig Lawler
29R is 626lbs before the gear change. I imagin about a 5lb gain there.wing moved back 5-3/4" from vertical.SteveePS first long cross country planned for Monday. 200mile trip to Green RiverUt.-----Original Message-----ADonJr(at)aol.comSent: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 5:54 AMSubject: Pietenpol-List: Re: 29R flies again.Steve,I know you gave this data before, but I must not have been paying attention.What is 29R's empty weight? How far back did you move your wing?After a lot of delay, I'm back to the construction of my Aircamper, (theMissus gave me the best argument against the Sky Scout - "It's only got oneseat!"). I'll be starting the vertical tail this week. Tanx for all yourinfo and inspiration!Don________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: 29R flies again.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:54 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Steve Eldredge"

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:56 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: BARNSTMR(at)aol.com

Re: Pietenpol-List: 29R flies again.

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:10 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
Congratulations. Great picture.Alex Ssloan ----- Original Message -----