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Pietenpol-List: Rib Gussets
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 1998 3:09 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: michael list
Hi all,I'm getting ready to order my rib material. The 1/16" gusset plywood,what type of ply is best, Mahogany?Thanks, Larry________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Gussets
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 1998 8:26 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael Hinchman
The Endicotts wrote:> > Hi all,> I'm getting ready to order my rib material. The 1/16" gusset plywood,> what type of ply is best, Mahogany?> Thanks, LarryLarry,I am using birch with good results and for less money.Mike________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Gussets
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 1999 11:54 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By:> > mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com[SMTP:mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com]
Who sells the plans drawn by Hoopman?Is it St. CroixGordon"Conrad, Bart D" wrote:> Mike, Gussets go on both sides of each rib. For the fuselage, look at drawing1 of the 1933 plans drawn by O. C. Hoopman. Gussets go on both sides exceptfor the upper and lower diagonal struts. The only go on top of the top fuselageand on bottom of bottom fuselage.>> Bart D Conrad> Boeing Field Service> DC-9/MD-80/DC-10 & 737 Heavy Mtc> Phone: 713-640-5882/713-324-4192> Fax: 713-640-5891> Pager: 713-318-1625>> > ----------
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Gussets
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 1999 12:14 am
by matronics
Original Posted By:> > > > mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com[SMTP:mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com]
Didn't Hoopman draw the plans for Bernard? or was he a friend back when?How much are his plans?ThanksGordonWarren Shoun wrote:> Hoopman sells the plans drawn by Hoopman>> Orrin C. Hoopman> 800 17th St. SW> Austin, MN 55912>> Gordon Brimhall wrote:>> > Who sells the plans drawn by Hoopman?> >> > Is it St. Croix> >> > Gordon> >> > "Conrad, Bart D" wrote:> >> > > Mike, Gussets go on both sides of each rib. For the fuselage, look at drawing1 of the 1933 plans drawn by O. C. Hoopman. Gussets go on both sides exceptfor the upper and lower diagonal struts. The only go on top of the top fuselageand on bottom of bottom fuselage.> > >> > > Bart D Conrad> > > Boeing Field Service> > > DC-9/MD-80/DC-10 & 737 Heavy Mtc> > > Phone: 713-640-5882/713-324-4192> > > Fax: 713-640-5891> > > Pager: 713-318-1625> > >> > > > ----------
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Gussets
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 1999 6:22 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Warren Shoun
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Gussets>Looking at the plans, I can't tell weather there are gussets on both sidesof>each rib or only one side. Both seems like overkill, but . . . ?>>The same goes for the fuse. Part of the fuse is plywood covered. Doesthat>take care of the gussets for that section or are gussets on the inside as>well? Areas of the fuse not covered with ply, gussets on the inside,outside,>both sides?>>Thanks all,>>Mike Bell>Columbia, SC>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Gussets
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 1999 10:14 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "mail.execpc.com"
Looking at the plans, I can't tell weather there are gussets on both sides ofeach rib or only one side. Both seems like overkill, but . . . ?The same goes for the fuse. Part of the fuse is plywood covered. Does thattake care of the gussets for that section or are gussets on the inside aswell? Areas of the fuse not covered with ply, gussets on the inside, outside,both sides?Thanks all,Mike BellColumbia, SC________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: Rib Gussets
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 1999 10:36 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: mboynton(at)excite.com
NOt overkill, gusset both sides of the ribs. Every joint on the fuse isgussetted either by sheeting or by a gusset. It does take a littlevisualising to determine which will cover the joint.Steve EldredgeIT ServicesBrigham Young University> -----Original Message-----> mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 9:14 AM> To: Pietenpol Discussion> Subject: Re: Rib Gussets>>> Looking at the plans, I can't tell weather there are gussets> on both sides of> each rib or only one side. Both seems like overkill, but . . . ?>> The same goes for the fuse. Part of the fuse is plywood> covered. Does that> take care of the gussets for that section or are gussets on> the inside as> well? Areas of the fuse not covered with ply, gussets on> the inside, outside,> both sides?>> Thanks all,>> Mike Bell> Columbia, SC>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: RE: Rib Gussets
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 1999 10:42 am
by matronics
Original Posted By:> mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com[SMTP:mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com]
Mike, Gussets go on both sides of each rib. For the fuselage, look at drawing1 of the 1933 plans drawn by O. C. Hoopman. Gussets go on both sides except forthe upper and lower diagonal struts. The only go on top of the top fuselageand on bottom of bottom fuselage.Bart D ConradBoeing Field ServiceDC-9/MD-80/DC-10 & 737 Heavy MtcPhone: 713-640-5882/713-324-4192Fax: 713-640-5891Pager: 713-318-1625> ----------
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 1999 10:54 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "mail.execpc.com"
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Gussets
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 1999 12:10 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com
ALL JOINTS ARE TO BE GUSSETED ON BOTH SIDES OF JOINTS rergardless of itbeing a rib or longerons. That is the method of transmitting loads thru theairframe. End joints/end grain don't provide squat except extremecompression.-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Gussets
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 1999 12:11 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By:> > > mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com[SMTP:mbell1(at)columbiaenergygroup.com]
Hoopman sells the plans drawn by HoopmanOrrin C. Hoopman800 17th St. SWAustin, MN 55912Gordon Brimhall wrote:> Who sells the plans drawn by Hoopman?>> Is it St. Croix>> Gordon>> "Conrad, Bart D" wrote:>> > Mike, Gussets go on both sides of each rib. For the fuselage, look at drawing1 of the 1933 plans drawn by O. C. Hoopman. Gussets go on both sides exceptfor the upper and lower diagonal struts. The only go on top of the top fuselageand on bottom of bottom fuselage.> >> > Bart D Conrad> > Boeing Field Service> > DC-9/MD-80/DC-10 & 737 Heavy Mtc> > Phone: 713-640-5882/713-324-4192> > Fax: 713-640-5891> > Pager: 713-318-1625> >> > > ----------
Pietenpol-List: Re: Rib Gussets
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 1999 6:21 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: DonanClara(at)aol.com
GUSSETS BOTH SIDES. DON'T EVEN THINK OF GOING ONE SIDED!DON HICKS________________________________________________________________________________