Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Conrad, Bart D"
Whats the Supplementary Plans? and how many sets of plans do you need to buy tobuild this airplane?Gordon"Conrad, Bart D" wrote:> Before I add this to the KNOWN PLAN ERRORS section of aircamper.org, does everyoneagree with the following?>> 1. The "Supplementary Plans, Air-Camper" page lists the length of the fuselagefor the horizontal stabilizer to attach to, to be 18 7/8 inch. Believe thisshould maybe be 18 1/8 inch as the horizontal stabilizer is 18 inches wide. This matches the rudder length also.>> 2. Drawing number 1 of the 1933 plans does not show the width dimension of thefueslage aft most point. After reading the Flying Manual, it should be 1 1/8inch wide (without gussets).>> 3. Engine mount fittings do not show a radius in the corners. It would be goodpractice to put in a radius to avoid cracking.>> Bart D Conrad> Boeing Field Service> DC-9/MD-80/DC-10 & 737 Heavy Mtc> Phone: 713-640-5882/713-324-4192> Fax: 713-640-5891> Pager: 713-318-1625________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By:> > Gordon Brimhall[SMTP:arkiesair(at)surfree.com]
Thanks BartI would say that the discussion group is the most valuable source of imformationonce a person has some plans.I am in a couple three airplane groups and what a wealth of information from thoseleading us into the unknown that have already built their airplanes and aresticking around to help the new kids on the block.ThanksGordonRW1 UL PietBig Piet Soon"Conrad, Bart D" wrote:> The following is the best answer I can provide to your questions: The supplementaryplans are for the extended fuselage. That page also makes the aft cockpitseat longer and adds a top lug to the top engine mount so that a strut canbe added to do away with the forward cockpit seat cross wires on the right handside. It has been my experience that it takes the plans purchased from DonPietenpol, plus the plans from the Flying Manual, plus networking such as thisdiscussion group. Bart> Bart D Conrad> Boeing Field Service> DC-9/MD-80/DC-10 & 737 Heavy Mtc> Phone: 713-640-5882/713-324-4192> Fax: 713-640-5891> Pager: 713-318-1625>> > ----------

Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
Before I add this to the KNOWN PLAN ERRORS section of aircamper.org, does everyoneagree with the following?1. The "Supplementary Plans, Air-Camper" page lists the length of the fuselagefor the horizontal stabilizer to attach to, to be 18 7/8 inch. Believe this shouldmaybe be 18 1/8 inch as the horizontal stabilizer is 18 inches wide. Thismatches the rudder length also.2. Drawing number 1 of the 1933 plans does not show the width dimension of thefueslage aft most point. After reading the Flying Manual, it should be 1 1/8inch wide (without gussets).3. Engine mount fittings do not show a radius in the corners. It would be goodpractice to put in a radius to avoid cracking.Bart D ConradBoeing Field ServiceDC-9/MD-80/DC-10 & 737 Heavy MtcPhone: 713-640-5882/713-324-4192Fax: 713-640-5891Pager: 713-318-1625________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By:> Gordon Brimhall[SMTP:arkiesair(at)surfree.com]
The following is the best answer I can provide to your questions: The supplementaryplans are for the extended fuselage. That page also makes the aft cockpitseat longer and adds a top lug to the top engine mount so that a strut canbe added to do away with the forward cockpit seat cross wires on the right handside. It has been my experience that it takes the plans purchased from DonPietenpol, plus the plans from the Flying Manual, plus networking such as thisdiscussion group. Bart Bart D ConradBoeing Field ServiceDC-9/MD-80/DC-10 & 737 Heavy MtcPhone: 713-640-5882/713-324-4192Fax: 713-640-5891Pager: 713-318-1625> ----------