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Pietenpol-List: Various

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2000 10:57 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Greg Yotz"
First - the Sun'n'Fun thing was a blast. This year, my wife and I drove down fromWisconsin seated on Corinthian leather. First time I have not flown, andfirst time my wife Dee attended. Great to see Bill Rewey, who flew his Piet all the way from Wisconsin again. Thanksto Bert Conoly for honchoing the woodcraft shop, along with Dick Navratiland Charlie Rubeck (Charlie, I'm still working on your elixer of life). Haddinner with Alan Wise and his wife at the OX-5 party. Ted Brousseau has addedanother Piet to his stable in Naples, FL (trailered it down from Michigan lastsummer). Again, thanks for the flight, Ted. And, of course, William Wynne'sCorvair forum had to extend the discussion outside the tent after the onehour period was up.As a Sun'n'Fun Raider (we are the volunteers who pick up all your garbage) I manageto keep busy, but always make sure I get to the forums and workshops andthe flightline. Can you imagine a bunch of guys flying down in their Bonanzasto haul garbage? Great group! And our business is picking up every year! Ibook a condo near the Lakeland airport each year, and may have room for a personor two next year (we sleep six people or so).Now to the fabric covering process. In the last two years, John Monnett and Ihave done probably three Cubs and two Vagabonds using the Superflite fabric system.You need to be careful of your breathing while spraying, so use a low pressuresystem with a breathing supply and a paper suit and mask. We drape offa section of shop for proper overboard ventilation of fumes. You have to mixjust what you need for spraying and work right along, as the pot life is limitedto a couple of hours. Anything left over is discarded, so have some smallparts (ailerons, tail) where you can use up any excess spray material (spraythe wings or fuselage first).When taping, I have found that the cement will show through the final coats ifit is applied too liberally out past the pinked edge of the tape. So I use someMEK on a rag to carefully "chemically sand" the edges of the tapes after theyhave dried. This removes any excess cement, but ensures the pinked edges beingglued down. It's a bit of an art, but you will learn real fast.The Superflite system is very similar to the Stits PolyFiber system, which I havealso used. Both are very good. Don't worry about your ability to cover thecurves (not many on a Piet anyway). The warm iron will do just fine. Be sureto set up your iron at the proper temperature (the book tells you how). Thisis key to the shrinking, so don't short cut here. Use the proper thermometerand do it right.Lately, of course, I've been out of the fabric thing, since the Sonex is all metal.The Sonex will not take the Corvair engine (too heavy), but the next Sonexalready has the first of a new series of big VW engines installed and shouldbe flying in a couple of weeks. We expect some 75-80 hp, and that will bringthe scratch built Sonex into the $10,000 range, complete with engine. Meanwhile,I'm starting a new Corvair buildup for my Piet. (Too many planes, not enoughyears)For you Ford Model A people - Bob Whittier says in the April issue of "Experimenter"(page 41) that he has heard from Model A nuts that easily get 70 hp andsome get 200 hp souped up. This comes from "Secrets" magazine, P.O.Box 957436,Hoffman Estates, IL 60195-7436. Phone (312) 558-9338. Get your "Experimenter"magazine from EAA for more of Bob's info on suppliers, etc. He lists WesternAircraft Supplies, 623 Marketville Road, NE, Calgary, Alberta T2E 5K1 as asupplier for Sitka spruce wing construction kits @ $862 US and fuselage/tailkits for $686 US. There is a $30 US crating charge for each kit.You can call Replicraft (973)402-2102 in Boonton NJ (e-mail replicraft(at)aol.com)for their catalog of Piet parts and supplies and building kits. Aircraft Spruce & Specialty's catalog lists spruce of all sizes, and also has aspruce wood kit for the GN-1 for $823 (at last printing).After the woodshop sessions at Sun'n'Fun, it turns out that Sitka spruce is thelumber of choice for a Piet, but significant money can be saved by going to analternate for many parts (fir, cedar, etc.) Just know what you are doing strengthwiseif you substitute.You're right, Bert! Only in America! Pietenpols Forever!Doc MosherOshkosh USA ________________________________________________________________________________

Pietenpol-List: Various

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:55 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: tbyh(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: getting ready to go GOT brodhead on my mindI am amazed by the number of people I need to see again and those I need to meet in person for the first time and naturally those willing to drag my big self around the pattern. I suppose I should be a bit more fastidious and make a list of those I need to seek out.With my luck I will make the list and forget it in my hotel room or just plain loose it. Either way this year has been challenging and interesting in thebuild and the experienced improved by friends on the list. Since this is combined with a business trip I hope nothing happens to cancel the trip. I am really looking forward to catching up with you all again.As I have stated earlier I am bringing along a buddy, he was instrumental in getting me from paper plans to gluing sticks together. I am gonna give him the full experience, the total Piet immersion, so if anyone has a open seat in their Piet it would be great to get him a ride.Hey does anyone know if Doc is gonna supply name tags again? I sure hope so, that was really nice to have.I sure can wait to see the wide Piet logo!Hope to see ya in a month and a few days.John RecineNX895BP reserved**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: VariousDate: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:25:13 -0400

Pietenpol-List: Re: Various

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:28 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "MikeD"
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:48 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
tbyh(at)aol.com wrote:> The discussions about wood are very timely as my dad just passed along the followingsomewhat bawdy story! Hope nobody is offended...> That's great.. and on the subject of wood..When Jean Chretien was Prime Minister up here, naturally there were a zillion jokesabout him, typically told with a poor attempt at a French-Canadian accent.One relates his days as a law student, and needing work between semesters he wanderedaround a few construction sites. One site had a "help wanted" sign posted,so Chretien walked up to the foreman and said "hey, how you going? I needwork, and I am the man for you!" while proudly pointing at his chest.The foreman thought Chretien looked like a geek who had never even seen constructionwork before much less wield a shovel or a hammer. So, to get rid of himnicely he told Mr. Chretien that a short aptitude test was required.."Mr. Chretien, you look like a smart fellow, so can you do this for me? I wantyou to take this piece of paper and pencil, and I want you to draw something torepresent the number, umm.., nine. Okay? No letters or numbers, just a picture.""No problem! Gimme dat.." And Mr. Chretien proceeded to draw a picture of threetrees in a row."Okay, how do you get 9 from that?" asked the foreman, figuring he had him."Is easy, see? Tree an tree an tree is nine!""Oh brother.." moaned the foreman, realizing this might be tougher that he originallyhoped. "Okay then, I want you to use that same picture and represent thenumber ninety-nine.""Ah, hmm.. okay! Got it, gimme da paper", whereby Mr. Chretien then took the pictureand rubbed it face down on the ground.He held it out and said "dere you go.. is ninety nine!"A bit puzzled, the foreman asked him "So.. smart guy, how do you get ninety-ninefrom that?""Is easy, see? Dirty tree and dirty tree and dirty tree is ninety nine."The foreman held his hand to his forehead, sighed and shook his head.. but decidedto give it one more try to get rid of this yo-yo. So he asked "Alright then,last problem. Now use that picture and make it represent one hundred!"Mr. Chretien rubbed his chin for a moment, then exclaimed "Ah yes! Is easy again,gimme dat..", and this time he drew a little dog at the edge of the picture,and a pile of poop at the base of each tree.The foreman knew the game was up, and wearily asked "Okay, show me how this isone hundred.."Mr. Chretien gave him a knowing smile and said "Is easy too! look.. dere is littledog, and he take a poop under every tree, see? Now you got dirty tree anda turd, dirty tree and a turd, and dirty tree and a turd, and dat make one hundred!"He got the job.--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________