Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model T engineI was recently reading about Mark Anderson and his work with a model T engine in the Pietenpol website. I would very much like to contact him about this subject. He is not listed in the e-mail addresses. Anyone know his email address, phone?thanksMicrocar2________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 06:14:05 -0700 (PDT)

Original Posted By: "Greg Yotz"
Richard, If you clipepd your wings a touch, maybe you could add endplates or some sort of droop tips to your wings to make up for it? You're not talking that much wing, could be you could lop it off and not really miss it. Just keep it light! GaryShare information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta
I looked at a Piet three years ago a guy in Missouri built. I walked aroundit and we chatted. I couldn't get over the feeling something didn't lookright with it but I wasn't sure. I didn't want to insult the guy so Ididn't ask for a long time. Then I couldn't take it any longer I told himthat I thought there was something different about his Piet but I wasn'tquit sure what it was. He told me that several people had said the samething. It turned out to be his wings were clipped 12" on each wing tip.His paint scheme also made the wings look even shorter. I asked why he didit, if it was for performance at cruise. He said,'Oh no, it was hisperformance in the shop with a garage door open in the middle of winter.'Apparently he had built another airplane and had already ran into theproblem of wingspan. He said he didn't like having to work on the aircraftin winter with the door open and that was what he had to do if he left thewing the same length. I asked him why he just didn't build the three piecewing and he said from his prior experience, he learned that he would stillhave the wings mounted on the aircraft at full span for up to six monthsbefore he transported to the airport. Or he would have to waste timeassembling and disassembling the wings when he worked on the airplane. Sohe clipped the wings. He said he didn't think it made much difference buthe had only flown one other Piet and it had a 'A' engine on it and he had aC-65 so there wasn't much to compare.Greg----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Richard DeCosta

Original Posted By: "Greg Yotz"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Clipped wing Piet?In a message dated 8/31/2000 10:45:10 AM Central Daylight Time, aircamper(at)yahoo.com writes:>but don't build Piet in bathroom, climb performance falls off big time LOLJohn D (it's the heat)________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Jay
I built mine in a shoebox and carry it to and from the airport in a Yugo.;-)GregActually if I ever get this airplane covered and flying I'll be lighter thanair....And my spirits will have great climb performance.>> >>> but don't build Piet in bathroom, climb performance falls off big timeLOL>> John D (it's the heat)>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:26:09 -0500

Original Posted By: leonstefanhutks(at)webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
I wasn't poking at anyone with the Yugo thing... If I had a Yugo, itprobably would be without an engine, because I would have it on a test standswinging a prop just to see how it goes....I've got 5 kids with three of them teenagers with drivers licenses. Ourhouse looks like a used car lot. And there ain't a single one that's brandnew.. I also found that having airplanes worked much better when I OWNEDvehicles instead of the bank owning them and me sending my whole paycheck tothe bank every week. I also found it easier for my kids to drive vehiclesif I built airplanes instead of buying them... I find it allot easier tobuy wood with just what I save in interest on a single vehicle each month.Also, all of my children know how to change oil and both my sons have hadengine, transmission and drivetrain rebuilding experience now. One son is alittle more excited about airplanes and can't wait to rebuild the LycomingO-145-B2 we have for the Piet now.Greg - Piet owner, Dodge, Chevy(2), Ford(2), Nissan, Toyota(2), Mazda ....P.S. I'm selling a truck we don't use around the farm anymore to buy mycloth for covering... Found out my wife couldn't spend money if it wassitting in the driveway but she could if I put it in the bank waiting forparts... Not saying she doesn't have a right to our money, she just hasdifferent priorities, is all... Seems like ever time I say, "I'm buyingsome wood." She thinks she's getting furniture or new trim. Which I throwin once in awhile to justify woodworking tools....>> Hey, Greg- don't laugh TOO much at Yugos; some of us (like me) are drivingthem,> so we can put our discresionary income into aircraft instead of luxurycars!!!> Besides, the Yugo and the Piet have a lot in common. They're both verysturdy,> very straightforward designs that focus on transporting a couple of peoplefrom> point A to point B with a minimum of frills and a distinctive style (afterall,> you don't see too many examples of either going the other way, or parkedat the> airport when you get there). Both are economical to operate and maintian.Both> take a person who is willing to do a lot of tinkering to keep them goingand IF> they are taken care of properly, both can provide many years of solid,reliable> transportation to their owners. (And no, I'm not planning on building the> world's first Yugo-powered Piet- the motors rev much too high in a Yugo...> maybe.)>> Jay Travis> Air Camper AND Yugo Owner >________________________________________________________________________________