Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: KGardner(at)odu.edu
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ultralitght version of PietIn a message dated 07/12/2001 5:45:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jfelts101(at)yahoo.com writes:>Why not go with the REAL Pietenpol ?? For what the Rag Wingkits run, you could build an entire Pietenpol Air Camper.Engine wise, the Corvair power seems most economical to me.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: East Coast Piet fly-in

Original Posted By: "Jerry F."
07/13/2001 02:34:47 PMHi Richard,Where do you have in mind? I'm moving to northeast OH soon & Maine would bejust as far away as Wisconsin for me. Does anyone know of a niceBrodhead-type airfield in, say, east-central PA that would be a reasonabledistance for most East Coast folks? Any Piet builders/flyers in that area?I don't have time right now to get involved in this, but would beinterested once my life settles down after the move. I'd vote for lateSpring or early Fall to avoid the lovely East Coast summer temperatures.Cheers!Kip GardnerLaboratory ManagerOld Dominion UniversityDept. of Ocean, Earth & Atmos. Sciences, Rm. 4414600 Elkhorn Ave.Norfolk, VA 23529Ph: 757-683-5654Bumper Sticker of the Week:"Honor Veterans - Stop War"(On the car of a friend who is a DFC-decorated WWII veteran) rdecost1(at)maine.rr.com Sent by: To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com owner-pietenpol-list-server@mat cc: ronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List:Piet fly-in 07/13/01 14:00 Please respond to pietenpol-list Well, I've been building my Piet now for almost 3 years, and I have yet tomake it to a Brodhead fly-in. Probably because it's half-way across thecountry. Anyone interested in going to an East Coast Piet fly-in, pleaseemail me. I have talked with a couple other builders willing to help out,and I'd love to get one going.Richard________________________________________________________________________________

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I'm almost scared to say anything because I don't want to start a waronline. Well, I would but I'm more interested in ultralights because youdon't have to have a pilot license, which to get costs a bundle around here,I don't have that bundle. I can by the skin of my teeth afford ultralightflying lessons tho and was suppose to solo on a Sun but on the Thursdaybefore I had a heart attack which ended up with a 4way by-pass operation,and the loss of 2 1/2 toes on my right foot. Not sure but this might knockout passing the required medicial exam for a pilot license. I do alreadyhave the Kaw. 440 for it too, which means I only have to afford theairframe. This list is the greatest, thanks guys.Jerry in South Dakota----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Michael Brusilow"
07/13/2001 04:04:49 PMJerry,Don't feel you need to justify or apologize for your reasons for wanting tobuild a UL! I think we all go through a lot of 'what if' thinking indeciding what to build. It all depends on what figuring out what YOU want,the kind of flying YOU want to do & the resources YOU have. That said,there are a bunch of possible choices, as you are finding out.All that said, just one other thought for you to consider. A full-sizePiet will fall under the new Sport pilot/Sport Aircraft regulations. Thatmeans you will be able to fly one without a valid medical & with trainingmore like UL training than for a regular pilot's license.Yes, you already have a motor & that may well be your clinching factor, butas a number of people have pointed out to me over the couple of years I'vebeen pondering this project, Piets can be very cheap to build if you takethe time to scrounge the materials. It's the old story of what do you havemore of, time or money?Anyway, good luck whatever you decide on. You might also check out a cutelittle folding-wing design called the Aero Butterfly UL. Also advertised inthe back of Experimenter, been around a while & the plans are only $25.BTW, if you haven't already done so, join the EAA! Just having access tothe information in the 'Members only' part of their website is worth thedues.Cheers!Kip GardnerLaboratory ManagerOld Dominion UniversityDept. of Ocean, Earth & Atmos. Sciences, Rm. 4414600 Elkhorn Ave.Norfolk, VA 23529Ph: 757-683-5654Bumper Sticker of the Week:"Honor Veterans - Stop War"(On the car of a friend who is a DFC-decorated WWII veteran)________________________________________________________________________________

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Original Posted By: david kowell
07/13/2001 05:42:38 PMI certainly hope you ARE proved wrong, Owen, but you are right to point outthat the "Fat Lady Ain't Sung Yet!"Good flying this weekend , Ya'll.Kip Gardner(who'll be flying a ladder & paint bucket again!)Laboratory ManagerOld Dominion UniversityDept. of Ocean, Earth & Atmos. Sciences, Rm. 4414600 Elkhorn Ave.Norfolk, VA 23529Ph: 757-683-5654Bumper Sticker of the Week:"Honor Veterans - Stop War"(On the car of a friend who is a DFC-decorated WWII veteran) owen(at)davies.mv.com Sent by: To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com owner-pietenpol-list-server@mat cc: ronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ultralitght versionof Piet 07/13/01 20:28 Please respond to pietenpol-list Consider it, but don't count on it. Last time we went this way,DOT restored the requirement for a medical certificate, therebymaking the new category useless. I know this is a minority view,but personally I'll be amazed if it doesn't happen again. SportPilot is yet another dream that has only a modest chance ofbecoming a reality.Of course, I'd love to be proved wrong!Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:51:52 -0700

Original Posted By: mboynton(at)excite.com

Original Posted By: Dave and Connie
Richard, I'd also be interested in a Piet fly in on the East coast. I'mlocated in Dover, Delaware and about three years into my project too. SinceI'm retired now, I can help out with setting up a fly in. I'm sure thereshould be plenty of guys (and gals) willing to help coordinate with whateverit takes to put on a fly in. Sam________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:07:26 -0500

Original Posted By: KGardner(at)odu.edu
Kip Gardner helpfully suggested:> All that said, just one other thought for you to consider. A full-size> Piet will fall under the new Sport pilot/Sport Aircraft regulations. That> means you will be able to fly one without a valid medical & with training> more like UL training than for a regular pilot's license.Consider it, but don't count on it. Last time we went this way,DOT restored the requirement for a medical certificate, therebymaking the new category useless. I know this is a minority view,but personally I'll be amazed if it doesn't happen again. SportPilot is yet another dream that has only a modest chance ofbecoming a reality.Of course, I'd love to be proved wrong!Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ultralitght version of Piet

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Original Posted By: flyboy_120(at)webtv.net (Ed G.)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ultralitght version of PietIn a message dated 7/13/01 3:06:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nr5a(at)actcom.net writes:>Ok, Jerry. No war started here. Was honest about my question.I've been thinking, each of our circumstances are different, and what works forone doesn't necessarily work for another. I'm so glad you've decided to take up flying. It does your soul good to be up with the birds, flying through the air. I've had a private pilot license now for over 20 years, but only have about 100hrs of flying in, mostly in the 'spam' cans, I've been interested in building a Pietenpol since about 1978. Again, each of our circumstances are different. Thanks for the time and glad to have met you even if for a brief time.________________________________________________________________________________