Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Kirk & Laura Huizenga
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A few degrees here and therePieters,Many months ago I asked the list for some help on the questions to follow. I did not get one answer. Maybe you people don't like me. If so, say so. But, I'm going to ask the same questions again now and if I don't get any responses I might come back on with some southern stuff you might not like. The answers are to come, I hope, from those with flying PietsToday I spent building connecting rods from the rudder bar to the front pedals. Now I want to install physical rudder stops. QUESTION # 1`. What is the angle in degrees right and left of center for your rudder travel ? .QUESTION # 2 What is the angle in degrees of the elevator up and down measured from level center?QUESTION # 3 What is the angle of travel from center up and down of the aelirons?Sure would like to hear from someone who might guide me on this.Best figures I've been able to find are from other aircraft:Aelirons: 20 up, 14 downElevators: 26 up, 20 downRudder: 18 each side of centerThanksCorky in Louisiana where they know how many fish make up a mess________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:59:08 -0600

Original Posted By: "Bob Seibert"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few degrees here and thereCorkyGreat questions - degree of control surface movement- I also need this infoHenry Williams ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:17:43 -0600

Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Corky wrote:>if I don't get any responses I might come back on with some>southern stuff you might not like.Gee, Corky- it sounds more like the "third degree" to me ;o)Very good question (range of travel of controls). I'll be listening attentively for answers. I can calculate the range of travel based on the geometry of the controls, but that's no good- it's far better to get real numbers from flying examples, plus any comments like "I run out of aileron in a strong crosswind"... which is exactly what Ernie Moreno says about his Piet (the long-nosed Franklin-powered plane that I'm thinking of buying).>Now I want to install physical rudder stops.Good. Everything I've seen on 'good practice' says there should be positive control stops in all axes, and preferably at the surface being controlled. However, I did happen to see a setup using "hanging" rudder pedals in the forward cockpit, and they simply bumped against the back of the firewall as control stops. Since yours are already done, that's not an option. I've also seen a setup with Nicopress sleeves on either side of the control cable as it ran through a stout fairlead. But again, both of those solutions leave the control surface itself without a stop, should a cable break. And of course you still need to know how many degrees of travel to allow between stops.>Corky in Louisiana where they know how many fish make up a messYou like those 'sac-au-lait', fried up golden? Me too!Oscar ZunigaMedford, Oregonmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Skip Gadd"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few degrees here and thereThanks to Chris, Mike, Oscar and all Pieters for your response. I'll promise that you are spared any further southern retaliation, condemnation or any other ations. Your info has been added to my hunches and I believe it should be a controllable machine both on the ground and airborne. We'll see. I just want to be able to bury that stick in my fat old belly the second I feel those wheels on the ground.Oscar, those beautiful silvery fish you made reference to are called sac-o-let in south louisiana, white perch here in nw La and crappie up in Arkansas. Take your pick they are great golden brown w/ french fries, ice tea or beer.Corky in Louisiana where we know instinctively that the best gesture of solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried chicken and a big bowl of cold 'tater salad. ( If the trouble is a real crisis, we also know to add some hot biscuits and a ' nanner puddin.)________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "John McNarry"
Chris, Kim Stricker, 302 Lindsey Ln, Jackson Mo 63755 makes a great Brodhead Video every year. I have every year 92 to now and they are ALL almost worn out. Kim flys A Cub yellow Gn 1 and hops lots of rides and also shoots lots of tape everyyear. Believe he gets $20.00, well worth it. Skip, in Atlanta where we can finely fly again!________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Ted Brousseau"
I sure am glad to see you working on your project again Corky.This list is great! I second Mikes comment, thank God for the old timers.The knowledge they can share in good ol' common sense ways of doing thingsis beyond price.What I like best about Piets? In no particular order!Common sense airplanePiet buildersFlyingThis listJMc________________________________________________________________________________

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Corker -Someone just donated a Piet to our EAA chapter (#203, Palm Beach County,FL). Has 18 hours on it, Cont. A-65 with a metal prop. Apparently it ispitched too high, so the prop has gone to the shop for re-pitching.Anyway - Saturday a.m. I am going to go inspect it. I will make a point totake along my equipment for measuring angles. I will try to get all thedetails for you, and then you can write your book with all the answersyou've been given.Down here our equivalent are called specks (speckled perch). To your listof ingredients, add fresh sliced tomatos, fried okra, and boiled corn on thecob. Huge glass of sweet tea!I gotta mosey up to Shreveport soon to see you. Got an old (well, about 51or so) galfriend there I wouldn't mind seeing as well.CraigHappily trying to figure out how to install a too-big fuel tank in thislittle Bobcat plane!

Original Posted By: "Warren D. Shoun"

Original Posted By: "Dick and Marge Gillespie"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A few degrees here and thereCraig, I don't have any speckled trout at this time but come on up will be glad to meet you. Now, if you want me to check out that vivacious 51 yr old just give me her name, address, SSN, phone #, measurements etc and I'll report my finding asap. I'm sure my wife will concur.Corky in La where beautiful women are commonplace.________________________________________________________________________________