Hi All,Mike Bell got a hold of me and I am getting another set of PietenpolNewsletters. That leads me to item:1. Awhile back I volunteered to digitize these old newsletters and publishthem on a CD for non-profit use. I have been unable to do this because ofno newsletters. Now that I am getting a set, that project will be started inthe near future. I will be scanning, and converting to searchable PDF formatand probably redrawing illustrations so they can be printed and scaled withnew fangled programs of the day. This will be a labor of love, lust,passion - what have you. Besides, I am a pathetic, lonely, divorced guy witha bit of time on my hands about to endure another Wisconsin winter. If youhave something to add or something you would like to see let me knowincluding video clips, soundbytes, builder photos, etc. We can make this agroup effort and something with which to really have fun.2. I like airplane shirts and s&t like that. Over the last few years I havenoticed most shirts, hats and the like seemed to have been designed bypeople stuck about 1972, with a doobie in their mouth and a blindfold overtheir eyes. I walked the Oshkosh grounds looking for acceptable items ofclothing. Two years in a row have netted me nada, zip and zero. Mesh hats!?,Tie Died shirts?! If I see on more shirt with a P51 shooting flames out ofits wings I think I may puke. In my opinion good aviation clothing should besubtle and now shout I AM A GEEK WEIRDO.The Oshkosh weather was cool a couple of mornings and I was wearing asweatshirt I had picked up several years ago. I had four or five women askme where I got it. It is a subtle Curtiss art deco ad which many have seenon the from of a white sweatshirt. This got me thinking. The only way I wasgoing to get the items I want to wear is to create them myself. There aremany logos from the past that are really well done and nice conversationpieces. So I have partnered with a company to produce the aviation logos Iam redrawing on shirts, hats, sweatshirts, coffee mugs and certainpromotional items. So far I am concentrating on airplanes which are mypassion: Taylorcraft, Travel Air (I have a project of each of those), Lairdand next is Pietenpol. I can reproduce one already made or draw one fromscratch. I will try to have it done in time for Christmas so your family cantreat you right. I will be making a very small amount of money on each itemsold but it will go for a worthy cause - aviation and building a Pietenpol.A lot more logos will follow and if there is interest I will post a link inthe near future. If this is unwanted let me know and no more will be writtenabout the subject. The items will be high-quality heat transferred,printed-on-demand, so they will be available at all time and I am toldsatisfaction is guaranteed.I am windy and let me know how you feel about this kind of stuff. Sorry totake up too much time
Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....
Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Hi All,Mike Bell got a hold of me and I am getting another set of PietenpolNewsletters. That leads me to item:1. Awhile back I volunteered to digitize these old newsletters and publishthem on a CD for non-profit use. I have been unable to do this because ofno newsletters. Now that I am getting a set, that project will be started inthe near future. I will be scanning, and converting to searchable PDF formatand probably redrawing illustrations so they can be printed and scaled withnew fangled programs of the day. This will be a labor of love, lust,passion - what have you. Besides, I am a pathetic, lonely, divorced guy witha bit of time on my hands about to endure another Wisconsin winter. If youhave something to add or something you would like to see let me knowincluding video clips, soundbytes, builder photos, etc. We can make this agroup effort and something with which to really have fun.2. I like airplane shirts and s&t like that. Over the last few years I havenoticed most shirts, hats and the like seemed to have been designed bypeople stuck about 1972, with a doobie in their mouth and a blindfold overtheir eyes. I walked the Oshkosh grounds looking for acceptable items ofclothing. Two years in a row have netted me nada, zip and zero. Mesh hats!?,Tie Died shirts?! If I see on more shirt with a P51 shooting flames out ofits wings I think I may puke. In my opinion good aviation clothing should besubtle and now shout I AM A GEEK WEIRDO.The Oshkosh weather was cool a couple of mornings and I was wearing asweatshirt I had picked up several years ago. I had four or five women askme where I got it. It is a subtle Curtiss art deco ad which many have seenon the from of a white sweatshirt. This got me thinking. The only way I wasgoing to get the items I want to wear is to create them myself. There aremany logos from the past that are really well done and nice conversationpieces. So I have partnered with a company to produce the aviation logos Iam redrawing on shirts, hats, sweatshirts, coffee mugs and certainpromotional items. So far I am concentrating on airplanes which are mypassion: Taylorcraft, Travel Air (I have a project of each of those), Lairdand next is Pietenpol. I can reproduce one already made or draw one fromscratch. I will try to have it done in time for Christmas so your family cantreat you right. I will be making a very small amount of money on each itemsold but it will go for a worthy cause - aviation and building a Pietenpol.A lot more logos will follow and if there is interest I will post a link inthe near future. If this is unwanted let me know and no more will be writtenabout the subject. The items will be high-quality heat transferred,printed-on-demand, so they will be available at all time and I am toldsatisfaction is guaranteed.I am windy and let me know how you feel about this kind of stuff. Sorry totake up too much time
-john-Thinking about a tag line like...Pietenpol AircamperSmell the Grass, Chase the Cows.The beauty is I can change the logo any time I want and it updates theshirts available instantly, so we can have a whole variety of stuff to wearand create.________________________________________________________________________________
Hi All,Mike Bell got a hold of me and I am getting another set of PietenpolNewsletters. That leads me to item:1. Awhile back I volunteered to digitize these old newsletters and publishthem on a CD for non-profit use. I have been unable to do this because ofno newsletters. Now that I am getting a set, that project will be started inthe near future. I will be scanning, and converting to searchable PDF formatand probably redrawing illustrations so they can be printed and scaled withnew fangled programs of the day. This will be a labor of love, lust,passion - what have you. Besides, I am a pathetic, lonely, divorced guy witha bit of time on my hands about to endure another Wisconsin winter. If youhave something to add or something you would like to see let me knowincluding video clips, soundbytes, builder photos, etc. We can make this agroup effort and something with which to really have fun.2. I like airplane shirts and s&t like that. Over the last few years I havenoticed most shirts, hats and the like seemed to have been designed bypeople stuck about 1972, with a doobie in their mouth and a blindfold overtheir eyes. I walked the Oshkosh grounds looking for acceptable items ofclothing. Two years in a row have netted me nada, zip and zero. Mesh hats!?,Tie Died shirts?! If I see on more shirt with a P51 shooting flames out ofits wings I think I may puke. In my opinion good aviation clothing should besubtle and now shout I AM A GEEK WEIRDO.The Oshkosh weather was cool a couple of mornings and I was wearing asweatshirt I had picked up several years ago. I had four or five women askme where I got it. It is a subtle Curtiss art deco ad which many have seenon the from of a white sweatshirt. This got me thinking. The only way I wasgoing to get the items I want to wear is to create them myself. There aremany logos from the past that are really well done and nice conversationpieces. So I have partnered with a company to produce the aviation logos Iam redrawing on shirts, hats, sweatshirts, coffee mugs and certainpromotional items. So far I am concentrating on airplanes which are mypassion: Taylorcraft, Travel Air (I have a project of each of those), Lairdand next is Pietenpol. I can reproduce one already made or draw one fromscratch. I will try to have it done in time for Christmas so your family cantreat you right. I will be making a very small amount of money on each itemsold but it will go for a worthy cause - aviation and building a Pietenpol.A lot more logos will follow and if there is interest I will post a link inthe near future. If this is unwanted let me know and no more will be writtenabout the subject. The items will be high-quality heat transferred,printed-on-demand, so they will be available at all time and I am toldsatisfaction is guaranteed.I am windy and let me know how you feel about this kind of stuff. Sorry totake up too much time
Re: Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....
Original Posted By: "John Hofmann"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....Dear John as the letters used to say to the boys in my division,I don't know quite how to answer your request for comments but if I had a long COLD winter ahead of me in La and in the same solitary state you are in I'd forget about those newsletters, shirts and other unimportant stuff and get off your a-- and find a warm woman. Make sure she can cook too.Corky, not in Wisconsin________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....Dear John as the letters used to say to the boys in my division,I don't know quite how to answer your request for comments but if I had a long COLD winter ahead of me in La and in the same solitary state you are in I'd forget about those newsletters, shirts and other unimportant stuff and get off your a-- and find a warm woman. Make sure she can cook too.Corky, not in Wisconsin________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Hey Corky!After the last one I am not sure it is worth my wallet being lightenedagain! Besides, I am pretty sure I have dated every woman in the greaterMilwaukee Metro Area between the ages of 27 and 44. There ain't no wimminleft. I has seen the enemy and it is us!john- alone, frisky, and have a wonderful six year old redheaded girl wholoves airplanes to help take the chill off some of those winter nights....>> Dear John as the letters used to say to the boys in my division,> I don't know quite how to answer your request for comments but if I had a> long COLD winter ahead of me in La and in the same solitary state you arein> I'd forget about those newsletters, shirts and other unimportant stuff and> get off your a-- and find a warm woman. Make sure she can cook too.> Corky, not in Wisconsin________________________________________________________________________________
Hey Corky!After the last one I am not sure it is worth my wallet being lightenedagain! Besides, I am pretty sure I have dated every woman in the greaterMilwaukee Metro Area between the ages of 27 and 44. There ain't no wimminleft. I has seen the enemy and it is us!john- alone, frisky, and have a wonderful six year old redheaded girl wholoves airplanes to help take the chill off some of those winter nights....>> Dear John as the letters used to say to the boys in my division,> I don't know quite how to answer your request for comments but if I had a> long COLD winter ahead of me in La and in the same solitary state you arein> I'd forget about those newsletters, shirts and other unimportant stuff and> get off your a-- and find a warm woman. Make sure she can cook too.> Corky, not in Wisconsin________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....
Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....John,GO SOUTH, YOUNG MAN, GO SOUTH________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....John,GO SOUTH, YOUNG MAN, GO SOUTH________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....
Original Posted By: "John Hofmann"
John,I have copies of the original Waco Company drawing depicting the originalWACO logo from 1928.It would be neat to get white overalls like the old time mechanics used towear that would have their company logos on the back. Old time photos ofthe Luscombe, Taylorcraft, Waco, Grumman, Edo, and Aeronca factories allshow workers wearing them.I would think the originals were embroidered but a modern day vinyl transferwould suffice.Some of the logos might still be copyright protectedWould do you think?Chris Bobka----- Original Message -----
John,I have copies of the original Waco Company drawing depicting the originalWACO logo from 1928.It would be neat to get white overalls like the old time mechanics used towear that would have their company logos on the back. Old time photos ofthe Luscombe, Taylorcraft, Waco, Grumman, Edo, and Aeronca factories allshow workers wearing them.I would think the originals were embroidered but a modern day vinyl transferwould suffice.Some of the logos might still be copyright protectedWould do you think?Chris Bobka----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: General Piet Stuff - windy letter follows....
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
RE: Pietenpol-List: Crepe Paper Drops
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Reminds me of some of the stuff I used to do with a J-3 Cub when I was a kidof 17 - I used to take a roll of toilet paper up, unroll the first 5 feet orso and wad it up in my hand, with the rest of the roll still attached. Iwould throw the whole thing out the open door and it would stream outcompletely as it fell. Then I would see how many times I could cut it witha wing before it hit the ground. Usually I would just do a series of loopsand hit it at the bottom of each loop. Once I hit it right at the wingtipand the whole thing got caught in the wingtip vortex. The next pass itlooked beautiful - a huge spiral pinwheel in the sky. I couldn't resist andput the nose of my Cub right in the center of the spiral, where the paperwas thickest. Big mistake! All that paper just packed into the coolingshrouds and into the air filter. The engine began to splutter and if Ihadn't thought quickly and pulled carb heat to bypass the air cleaner itwould have died. Fortunately I was right over a little grass airstrip andlanded quickly before the cylinders got too hot. The toliet paper in thecooling shrouds was smoldering when I picked it out. So be careful whenchasing your crepe paper!Jack Phillips-----Original Message-----
Reminds me of some of the stuff I used to do with a J-3 Cub when I was a kidof 17 - I used to take a roll of toilet paper up, unroll the first 5 feet orso and wad it up in my hand, with the rest of the roll still attached. Iwould throw the whole thing out the open door and it would stream outcompletely as it fell. Then I would see how many times I could cut it witha wing before it hit the ground. Usually I would just do a series of loopsand hit it at the bottom of each loop. Once I hit it right at the wingtipand the whole thing got caught in the wingtip vortex. The next pass itlooked beautiful - a huge spiral pinwheel in the sky. I couldn't resist andput the nose of my Cub right in the center of the spiral, where the paperwas thickest. Big mistake! All that paper just packed into the coolingshrouds and into the air filter. The engine began to splutter and if Ihadn't thought quickly and pulled carb heat to bypass the air cleaner itwould have died. Fortunately I was right over a little grass airstrip andlanded quickly before the cylinders got too hot. The toliet paper in thecooling shrouds was smoldering when I picked it out. So be careful whenchasing your crepe paper!Jack Phillips-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Crepe Paper Drops
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I discovered the TP thing a few years ago and have been having fun eversince! BTW Saturday was my 4 year anniversary of my first flight in thePiet! I keep a package of TP at my hanger for emergencies, no I mean inflight fun. Once during a morning flight I was slow enough to catch to rollin the middle. As it caught up it began to flutter and shed squares untilthe whole thing disappeared. I didn't realize what happened until I turnedback into the morning sun and saw hundreds of TP squares flutteringearthward sparkling in the light.I've yet to be able to duplicate that one.Steve E.-----Original Message-----
I discovered the TP thing a few years ago and have been having fun eversince! BTW Saturday was my 4 year anniversary of my first flight in thePiet! I keep a package of TP at my hanger for emergencies, no I mean inflight fun. Once during a morning flight I was slow enough to catch to rollin the middle. As it caught up it began to flutter and shed squares untilthe whole thing disappeared. I didn't realize what happened until I turnedback into the morning sun and saw hundreds of TP squares flutteringearthward sparkling in the light.I've yet to be able to duplicate that one.Steve E.-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Crepe Paper Drops
Original Posted By: "Alan James"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Crepe Paper DropsSure hope you rural yankees won't have to use a Sears catalog before the day's over.C in l________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Crepe Paper DropsSure hope you rural yankees won't have to use a Sears catalog before the day's over.C in l________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Crepe Paper Drops
Original Posted By: Steve Eldredge
Michael D Cuy reported:> Group--forgive me for deviating from building issues, but this is> just too much fun not to share. At The Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome> this past October my wife and I saw this neat competition between> two pilots. You get two rolls of crepe paper, crumple up the first foot> or two and climb to a thousand feet or so. Slow down to near stall,> toss the roll out the window or cockpit ...The famed "Delsey drop," named for the brand oftoilet paper it was often performed with back in the '20s.One ideal way to play with their Davis parasol.Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________
Michael D Cuy reported:> Group--forgive me for deviating from building issues, but this is> just too much fun not to share. At The Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome> this past October my wife and I saw this neat competition between> two pilots. You get two rolls of crepe paper, crumple up the first foot> or two and climb to a thousand feet or so. Slow down to near stall,> toss the roll out the window or cockpit ...The famed "Delsey drop," named for the brand oftoilet paper it was often performed with back in the '20s.One ideal way to play with their Davis parasol.Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________