Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Robert Haines"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: StartersPieters, Back in the 60s I had a PT 23 with a 220 Cont. that had a centrifical starter on it and it was ablast to start. Has anyone ever tried to build one for a 65 or 85 cont. I know weight is a big problem but a starter, battery and generator adds to about 50 pounds. I have a 75 cont. - 9 which used a starter that drove on the face of the gear not the outside edge. I know this is probably nuts but can you imagine starting your piet at Broadhead with a crank. Any comments are welcome. A Iowa farmerPS We had some kind of centrifical starter on the old cream seperator.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Jack Phillips"
Ray,I've never met you and I don't know you so all I can gather from the type ofperson you are is from you actions on this list. If I have you wrong,please understand.Your lightheartedness and jovial manner on this list are irresponsible.This is not an social arena, it is educational. There already exists toomuch confusion in the complicated endeavor of building an aircraft withoutyou generating misinformation to amuse yourself. Please understand this andtake it to heart.I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't appreciatethis and are oblivious to your actions, but you've been here, correspondedwith us, and still continue add ridiculous posts to "have a little fun withthe straight and narrow squareheads on the list". So I say: you do what youdo not that you don't know, but that you don't care. You don't care thatyou are screwing up one of the most informative and one-of-a-kind lists onthe net.Where else is any of us going to go to get this type of information? Notfor just Pietenpols, but there is no other tube and fabric type group thatis even close.I don't consider myself to be an expert, like a few that have already left.But I'm not a novice and I can hold my own when it comes to certain topicswhich kind of puts me into a middle class on the group. What really worriesme is how many of us have left. When a Chris B. leaves, you know about it.When a bunch of Robert H. type lurkers disappear, the list is equally hurt.For the last year, I've been glued to this list. Now, I'm so tired of thecrap that I'm ready to unsubscribe.So, please try to focus on the educational aspects of this list. Pleasestate clearly whether what your trying is tried and true in your area orit's something experimental. We can all learn from each other's experience.If you're cracking a joke, add a (haha) or so we'll all know. PleaseNEVER add misinformation as a joke. Add the text "do not archiv*" toanything that should not be archived. But by now, you should know all ofthis.IF you don't care about any, are enjoying the damage you are causing, andwould rather just F*** around, please GET THE HELL OUT.Robert HainesDu Quoin, Illinois________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Well said, Robert. I'm about ready to leave myself if this idiot keepssending out his Bull****. If he is honestly wanting advice, then he shouldtake the advice he gets. If not, then he just just shut up. I'm furiousthat his kind of drivel has cost us somebody like Chris Bobka. I had hopedthat Craig Wilcox had straightened him out, but apparently not.Jack -----Original Message-----

Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"

Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
I've been hanging out here for quite some timeback when Steve E. was running the list.I hate to see good contributors drop off the list.Hopefully they will come backMyself I fix the hare brained ideas very easily.I use the DELETE key and go to the next worthwhile postBTW The wife and I went to Sikeston,MO this wknd to Lamberts for some ofthem good throwed rollsKen----- Original Message -----