Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: catdesigns(at)juno.com
-- Pietenpol-List message posted by: lshutks(at)webtv.net (Leon Stefan) I'll be there. Leon Stefan Hutchinson Ks. I have to see if I can find my EAA Ch. name tag. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:37:55 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop Carving Resource

Original Posted By: del magsam

Original Posted By: "Gadd, Skip"
Dale Johnson sent me a copy of this, it is great.It is a must if you are considering carving your own prop.Skip>Kirk wrote:>I have scanned and uploaded a book called How I Build Wood Propellers >by Al Schubert.>You can download it at the link below. It is a large .pdf file (10 or >11 megs), but worth it (130+ pages). I will soon add a separate .pdf >file with the misc pictures that Al included.>http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/filesL ... lbumID=5>A thanks also to Dale Johnson on this list for finding the manuscript >in the first place and making it available to us (he still has hard >copies if you don't want to print out all the pages)>Enjoy>Kirk________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "The Huizenga's"
Kirk, I received a copy form Dale about a year ago. He only asked for theshipping/copy-ing charges. Around ten bucks. It is quite an education onbuilding your own props. Here is his info if anyone is intrested in a hardcopy already setup in a little folder form,Dale Johnson2508 Hayes Dr.Burnsville, Mn.55337-1044Doug BlackburnDoug/Elizabeth BlackburnArrowBear Lake Ca.Inland Slope Rebels, Riverside Ca. http://inlandsloperebels.com----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Malcolm,The official fly-in is Friday to Sunday. Real world is, folks startarriving Thursday afternoon and most leave Saturday after dinner. By Sundaynoon there is usually about half dozen of us hard cord types just hangingaround.May be different this year because OSH doesn't start till Tuesday.Hope to see you there.Skip > I thought that the fly-in was Saturday and Sunday (20th/21st). What isthe> real schedule of events?> > Malcolm________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "D.Dale Johnson"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: To Fly, is to LiveIn a message dated 7/11/02 9:12:04 AM Central Daylight Time, cgalley(at)qcbc.org writes:>Yes, it's an ol' can o' soup beans. Always on, just the way B.H.P. did it.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:27:22 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop Carving Resource

Original Posted By: "Skip Gadd"
Dale, I can't make the Brodhead trip but I would like a copy of the prop book.Email me with the cost and your address and I can pick it up. I live in St.Paul Pat Driscollpatrick36(at)usfamily.net________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Robert Haines"
Kirk,I downloaded the file and there seems to be a problem with page 27. Pleasecheck the file to see if you experience the same thing.Robert HainesDu Quoin, IllinoisP.S. - List: My wife and are considering going to Brodhead as amini-vacation, although she is not interested in airplanes so that might notbe the place. So if you would like, put me on the list as "probably thereonly in spirit". Someone please take lots of pictures and stick them on theweb.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Robert Haines"
Kirk,I downloaded it again and got the page this time... never mind the previousmessage. Thanks.Robert Haines----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "D.Dale Johnson"
This past week a friend at work delivered a 1964 Corvair 110 horsepower tome. It's pretty grungy and needs a total teardown and rebuild. I haveWilliam Wynn's manual and also bought another book called "Keeping yourCorvair alive" . I bought a shop manual too. My wife rolled her eyes whenI said "Hey honey, I bought an engine for my airplane for $100 today!"She's not too happy, I think the low price scared her. Should have said$3,000.I can't make it to Brodhead this year, but next year is a definite. Everyonehave a good time, and anyone who can please take pictures and if possibleput them on the web, I'd love to see what goes on when Pietenpoler's lettheir hair down. I sure hope the Kansas fly-in we talked about for September is still on, Ican make that one. Doug, I can pick up the jigs you offered me almost any weekend, or I canwait and get them at the September fly-in. Let me know.Kent HallstenOklahoma City________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:46:53 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop Carving Resource

Original Posted By: dkowell

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Chris, having been through machine shop, and having followed learned practicesway back when, here is a possible solution. No matter how small holes needto be, I always start with a small bit and work my up to the size I am goingto end up with. usually three steps does it nicely. Maybe start with a 1/8",then a 3/16ths, and then the 1/4 inch bit. It is a bit of extra work, butthe hole seems to align better, and then the last bit does not have to workso hard, and tends to not go "out of round" so to speak. My two cents worth.It is a method that has worked well for me for over twenty-five years sincehigh school. I'm still in the wannabe builder stage. Waiting to see whathappens with the house up for sale. Take care,Doug BlackburnBTW Chris, my wife and were going to go out torwards Utah in September, buthave decided to go up to Oregon. Be nice to maybe stop and buy you a cup ofcoffee on our way up the I-5. Let me know. Porbably the third week ofSeptember. Good luck! DBDoug/Elizabeth BlackburnArrowBear Lake Ca.Inland Slope Rebels, Riverside Ca. http://inlandsloperebels.com----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: clif

Original Posted By: "Gary McNeel, Jr."

Original Posted By: John Hofmann
One of these times, we should get a computer techie to set up a web-cam atBrodhead for those of us unable to make it!!!________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:12:11 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New technology Brodhead meet

Original Posted By: "Sayre, William G"
Thats a GREAT idea! If we can get traffic cams and owl cams and cams towatch the grass grow, this would be the greatest thing going. For all of us" stayathomes"waltNX140DLfeverisly doing the "loose ends" preparing for the "sometime this year"inspection.----- Original Message -----

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Chris -Use a good, two diameter aircraft bit - 0.245 is about it, I think. Thenream with a 0.25 reamer. a 1/4" bit is just that, and has a bit more play.Coupled with a wobbly shuck, or slightly off quill feed, it usuallyproduces a hole just a bit too big.Craig----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: catdesigns(at)juno.com
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Original Posted By: "Gary McNeel, Jr."

Original Posted By: del magsam

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Original Posted By: clif
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop Carving ResourcePiet BuildersI'm just getting ready to cut and assemble the torque tube.Last week someone was explaining that the actually 2 in pullys are a little wider then plans. So I got the pullys first. I had no notion of the 1/4 in drill and bolt fit trouble just reported on-- I would have naively just grabed a 1/4 in drill in haste and regretted it at leisure. So thanks for the tipsHenry Williams ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:48:03 -0700

Original Posted By: Kip & Beth Gardner

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Chris, You can make a hand reamer out of drill rod. (in this case a 1/4rod )a six inch piece should do. Grind the end down on an angle untill there isabout1/3 left. ( like a half moon at the end ). Square off the other end soitwill fit a tap wrench. Hone the end sharp. I use water hardened rod as it iseasiler to retemper.If the metal discolored while grinding, you can retemper by heating the endtill it'scherry red and quenching in water. ( Just the end area ). Then, reheatuntill it turns astraw color and quench again. This is the same technique used for lathetools.These are good for slow turning only as in hand turning, slow speed lathe ormill.Last thing, always step drill your holes. Hope this helps.Carl L.----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Kip & Beth Gardner

Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop Carving ResourceChris,I've a bunch of 1/4 in AN oversize. Send me your needed lengths and I'll send some to you.Corky in La with his everfaithful bride Isabelle________________________________________________________________________________