Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: IncompatabilityPieters,Just when I thought I had covered all the holes my DAR called and asked? Where did you pick up that X on your tail number. Your registration plainly shows N41CC. I can't certify an aircraft with this difference. Where did you come up with the X business. I say, Mike Cuy told me. He says, Who is Mike Cuy? I say, he's the one in Ohio who told all of us about the X business. Sorry Mike for using your name in panic. He says, well, I'll try to check with FAA, but I'll have to have some resolution on this incompatability before I can inspect it. Do any of you Piets have any experience on this problem? Does Oak City issue registrations with the X number?Corky in a panic in dry NW La________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:24:42 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Incompatability
RE: Pietenpol-List: Incompatability
Original Posted By: "Cy Galley"
Hi Corky,I picked up the latest copy of the FAA's Amateur Built Aircraft ReferenceManual at Oshkosh this summer. In it, under section AC 20-27E, section 11."Identification and Registration Marking", Part d. says:"... In accordance with section 45.23(b), the word "Experimental" shall bedisplayed on the aircraft near each entrance to the cabin or cockpit inletters not less than 2 inches and not more than 6 inches in height. If theamateur-built aircraft has the same external configuration (i.e., is areplica) of a small aircraft built at least 30 years ago, the size of thenationality and registration markings must be at least 2 inches high. Forreplica aircraft only, the letter "X" may be used and the word"Experimental" would not be required. For example, markings on anamateur-built replica of an antique aircraft would be "NX1234." Theletter/symbol used should be appropriate for the airworthiness certificateof the aircraft being certificated, not the aircraft being replicated."It goes on to say:NOTE: Part 45 subpart C provides specific marking requirements for allaircraft. AC 45-2, Identification and Registration Marking, providesadditional guidance and information and describes accaeptable means ofcomplying with marking requirements. Any questions in this area should beresolved on an individual basis through consultation with the FAA officethat will perform the airworthiness certification.My guess is this won't be easy, but maybe by quoting regs and showing theDAR pictures of Mike Cuy's plane with his NX48MC markings clearly visible,he can be persuaded. Let us know how it comes out - I'll be doing the samething in about a year. OK City does not issue the NX number, but you addthe X after the registration number is issued.Good luck,Jack - Taking the day off to work on the Pietenpol since Isidore's remnantsare making it too wet to do anything else, trying to get it ready for theCentennial of Flight Exposition at Kittyhawk, NC in December 2003.Pieters,Just when I thought I had covered all the holes my DAR called and asked?Where did you pick up that X on your tail number. Your registration plainlyshows N41CC. I can't certify an aircraft with this difference. Where didyou come up with the X business. I say, Mike Cuy told me. He says, Who isMike Cuy? I say, he's the one in Ohio who told all of us about the Xbusiness. Sorry Mike for using your name in panic. He says, well, I'll trytocheck with FAA, but I'll have to have some resolution on thisincompatabilitybefore I can inspect it.Do any of you Piets have any experience on this problem? Does Oak City issueregistrations with the X number?Corky in a panic in dry NW La________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Corky,I picked up the latest copy of the FAA's Amateur Built Aircraft ReferenceManual at Oshkosh this summer. In it, under section AC 20-27E, section 11."Identification and Registration Marking", Part d. says:"... In accordance with section 45.23(b), the word "Experimental" shall bedisplayed on the aircraft near each entrance to the cabin or cockpit inletters not less than 2 inches and not more than 6 inches in height. If theamateur-built aircraft has the same external configuration (i.e., is areplica) of a small aircraft built at least 30 years ago, the size of thenationality and registration markings must be at least 2 inches high. Forreplica aircraft only, the letter "X" may be used and the word"Experimental" would not be required. For example, markings on anamateur-built replica of an antique aircraft would be "NX1234." Theletter/symbol used should be appropriate for the airworthiness certificateof the aircraft being certificated, not the aircraft being replicated."It goes on to say:NOTE: Part 45 subpart C provides specific marking requirements for allaircraft. AC 45-2, Identification and Registration Marking, providesadditional guidance and information and describes accaeptable means ofcomplying with marking requirements. Any questions in this area should beresolved on an individual basis through consultation with the FAA officethat will perform the airworthiness certification.My guess is this won't be easy, but maybe by quoting regs and showing theDAR pictures of Mike Cuy's plane with his NX48MC markings clearly visible,he can be persuaded. Let us know how it comes out - I'll be doing the samething in about a year. OK City does not issue the NX number, but you addthe X after the registration number is issued.Good luck,Jack - Taking the day off to work on the Pietenpol since Isidore's remnantsare making it too wet to do anything else, trying to get it ready for theCentennial of Flight Exposition at Kittyhawk, NC in December 2003.Pieters,Just when I thought I had covered all the holes my DAR called and asked?Where did you pick up that X on your tail number. Your registration plainlyshows N41CC. I can't certify an aircraft with this difference. Where didyou come up with the X business. I say, Mike Cuy told me. He says, Who isMike Cuy? I say, he's the one in Ohio who told all of us about the Xbusiness. Sorry Mike for using your name in panic. He says, well, I'll trytocheck with FAA, but I'll have to have some resolution on thisincompatabilitybefore I can inspect it.Do any of you Piets have any experience on this problem? Does Oak City issueregistrations with the X number?Corky in a panic in dry NW La________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Incompatability
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You should contact Information service or Randy Hansen on this question asall the information you are asking for does exists and its on the EAAmember web page. This is one of the many benefits of EAA membership.The toll free number in any EAA magazine.----- Original Message -----
You should contact Information service or Randy Hansen on this question asall the information you are asking for does exists and its on the EAAmember web page. This is one of the many benefits of EAA membership.The toll free number in any EAA magazine.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Incompatability
Original Posted By: "Cy Galley"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: IncompatabilityDear Cy,I joinedCorky EAA #7090________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: IncompatabilityDear Cy,I joinedCorky EAA #7090________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Incompatability
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Got me beat EAA #71015----- Original Message -----
Got me beat EAA #71015----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Incompatability
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: IncompatabilityHey guys, as long as we're playing the EAA number game I'll throw mine in. It is EAA# 1541. But I'm guessing it will take no more than, say, five minutes for that to be topped !! Don Hicks ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: IncompatabilityHey guys, as long as we're playing the EAA number game I'll throw mine in. It is EAA# 1541. But I'm guessing it will take no more than, say, five minutes for that to be topped !! Don Hicks ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Incompatability
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
I'm 33 but I think DJ is going to be the youngest. As far as I know, he'sthe only one under 30.Robert HainesDu Quoin, Illinois________________________________________________________________________________
I'm 33 but I think DJ is going to be the youngest. As far as I know, he'sthe only one under 30.Robert HainesDu Quoin, Illinois________________________________________________________________________________