Original Posted By: "Gadd, Skip"
Help!I'm working on the control cables now, and there are some things that aren'tclear on the 3-piece wing plans. Those of you with three-piece wings: Howdid you connect up your aileron cables, and where did you use fairleads forthe control cables. For that matter, how did you make your fairleads andwhere did you put them?1) A single cable from the crank to the lower aileron horn means that youcan never take the wings off.2) A connection inside the wing root is hard to get to if there's enoughclearance between the fitting and the pulley in the center section.If anyone can point me to some pictures, or give me a description of whatthey did, I'd certainly appreciate it.Thanks,Gene HubbardSan Diego________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece rigging
Original Posted By: "Hubbard, Eugene"
Gene,I built my fairleads per the print out of wood.1) the advise that I got from this group, and I'm doing is,,,,,build thewings and cabling with extra in each wing, and when you install the wings(which I did last week for good), just hook the cables to the torque tubehorns. there is no way to take the ferrel out of the pulley assy anyway.If worst comes to worst, the cable can be cut and a splice can be addedlater.Only if you plan on haveing a Piet that you can break down and trailer todifferent places, would you have to make special arrangements for thecables.I did that and put a turnbuckle up inside the center section for the"equalizer" cable, on top, to adjust the aleron tips to trailing edge.walt----- Original Message -----
Gene,I built my fairleads per the print out of wood.1) the advise that I got from this group, and I'm doing is,,,,,build thewings and cabling with extra in each wing, and when you install the wings(which I did last week for good), just hook the cables to the torque tubehorns. there is no way to take the ferrel out of the pulley assy anyway.If worst comes to worst, the cable can be cut and a splice can be addedlater.Only if you plan on haveing a Piet that you can break down and trailer todifferent places, would you have to make special arrangements for thecables.I did that and put a turnbuckle up inside the center section for the"equalizer" cable, on top, to adjust the aleron tips to trailing edge.walt----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: Waytogopiet(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece riggingWalt,I rambled on about the stick and rudder and forgot to answer your question about the aileron cables. I asked the list the same question about a year ago. I had the problem facing me of the FEDMAN wanting a naked inspection. What about the cables. I finally decided to make disconnects at the center of the second rib bay of each wing panel. That would keep the c/s cables with the c/s while covering and around each pulley w/guard. The disconnects are two 1 in X 5/8 4130 drilled 3/32 to accomodate cable ends w/round thimbles nicropressed. I have inspection -access holes under this fitting for attach or removable. You must place your fairing guides to clear this area. Works fine. I had to do it to accomodate the Fedman's naked inspection which never took place after waiting two months. I think I would still have some sot of disconnect. Never know when you will have to do maintenance and the more you plan ahead now the easier it will be thenCorky in La waiting for Lillie________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece riggingWalt,I rambled on about the stick and rudder and forgot to answer your question about the aileron cables. I asked the list the same question about a year ago. I had the problem facing me of the FEDMAN wanting a naked inspection. What about the cables. I finally decided to make disconnects at the center of the second rib bay of each wing panel. That would keep the c/s cables with the c/s while covering and around each pulley w/guard. The disconnects are two 1 in X 5/8 4130 drilled 3/32 to accomodate cable ends w/round thimbles nicropressed. I have inspection -access holes under this fitting for attach or removable. You must place your fairing guides to clear this area. Works fine. I had to do it to accomodate the Fedman's naked inspection which never took place after waiting two months. I think I would still have some sot of disconnect. Never know when you will have to do maintenance and the more you plan ahead now the easier it will be thenCorky in La waiting for Lillie________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece riggingIn a message dated 10/1/2002 10:49:25 PM Central Standard Time, Isablcorky(at)aol.com writes:> I finally decided to make disconnects at the center of > the second rib bay of each wing panel. That would keep the c/s cables with > the c/s while covering and around each pulley w/guard. I did mine in the same manner....also with good results. Just locate an inspection plate where you can reach in and make the connections. Don ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece riggingIn a message dated 10/1/2002 10:49:25 PM Central Standard Time, Isablcorky(at)aol.com writes:> I finally decided to make disconnects at the center of > the second rib bay of each wing panel. That would keep the c/s cables with > the c/s while covering and around each pulley w/guard. I did mine in the same manner....also with good results. Just locate an inspection plate where you can reach in and make the connections. Don ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece rigging
Original Posted By: "John Dilatush"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece riggingI haven't done this yet so there may be some unforeseen reason that itwon't workbut for what it's worth I'm going to have a turnbuckle end swaged ontothe inboard end of the airleron cable. To remove the wing just undo theturnbuckle barrel from the cable at the control horn and pull the cableup through the cowling and through the turning block. I plan to haveeasy access to the turning block but if you don't you could just tape amessenger to the cable end when you pull it out. I plan to make thecable guide opening large enough to let the swage fitting pass through.Ed G.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece riggingI haven't done this yet so there may be some unforeseen reason that itwon't workbut for what it's worth I'm going to have a turnbuckle end swaged ontothe inboard end of the airleron cable. To remove the wing just undo theturnbuckle barrel from the cable at the control horn and pull the cableup through the cowling and through the turning block. I plan to haveeasy access to the turning block but if you don't you could just tape amessenger to the cable end when you pull it out. I plan to make thecable guide opening large enough to let the swage fitting pass through.Ed G.________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Ed G."
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Original Posted By: John_Duprey(at)vmed.org
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece riggingYou're right John ...a cable guide might throw a stick in the spokes.Maybe I can modify it to let the fitting pass through it. I guess I'llhave to buy a fitting just to see if I can make it work . This was justmy solution to a problem not covered by the plans so I thought I wouldthrow it out to the group. It would eliminate 4 eyesplices 2 connectorsand 2 access covers plus make the airleron cables one piece."Simplicate and add lightness" Thanks for the input. I'll let you knowif I can make it work. Ed________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 3-piece riggingYou're right John ...a cable guide might throw a stick in the spokes.Maybe I can modify it to let the fitting pass through it. I guess I'llhave to buy a fitting just to see if I can make it work . This was justmy solution to a problem not covered by the plans so I thought I wouldthrow it out to the group. It would eliminate 4 eyesplices 2 connectorsand 2 access covers plus make the airleron cables one piece."Simplicate and add lightness" Thanks for the input. I'll let you knowif I can make it work. Ed________________________________________________________________________________