Original Posted By: "Ted Brousseau"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: PIET: Buying wood>>We are quickly approaching the Buying Wood stage. I looked at Douglas Firin Atlanta for $7 per board foot. I know there are other options and I needhelp. Where is wood being bought and for how much? Are most using Spruce orFir?>Thanks>Barry Davis>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: PIET: Buying wood
Pietenpol-List: PIET: Buying wood
Original Posted By: mark deacon
We are quickly approaching the Buying Wood stage. I looked at Douglas Fir in Atlantafor $7 per board foot. I know there are other options and I need help. Whereis wood being bought and for how much? Are most using Spruce or Fir?ThanksBarry Davis________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:55:12 -0800 (PST)
We are quickly approaching the Buying Wood stage. I looked at Douglas Fir in Atlantafor $7 per board foot. I know there are other options and I need help. Whereis wood being bought and for how much? Are most using Spruce or Fir?ThanksBarry Davis________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:55:12 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: engine choices
Original Posted By: clif
Re: Pietenpol-List: PIET: Buying wood
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
If you know what you are looking for, it is not too hard to find douglas firthat will be quite satisfactory for your aircraft construction. If youwant to do a little reesearch on wood, EAA has a book entitled 'Wood' thatis a good background data book.I built my Aircamper out of doug fir for structural members) plus some redcedar and white pine as well.$7.00/bd ft sounds a bit high; I paid about $1.40 per lineal ft of 2x4. Thisis $2.10/bd ft. I went to 84 lumber looked at their clear fir trim stock.2x4s work out nicely.Suggest that you go see lumber yards that supplycontractors; NOT HOME DEPOT OR LOWES. Ask where they keep their clear fir,then go sort through it but restack it so that its neat.I found clear fir 2x4s in 12, 14, 16 and 20 foot lengths; found several14' sticks that were clear, straight, and full dimension. Then I heftedthem and chose the 5 lightest ones. This yielded stock for four spars andthe leading and trailing edges. Made the spars 3/4" x 5" (trimmed to 43/4". laminated the spars out of 8 pieces of approximately 11/16 x13/16.Later planed them to 3/4' thicknessHope this helps.Lou Larsen in cool Florida----- Original Message -----
If you know what you are looking for, it is not too hard to find douglas firthat will be quite satisfactory for your aircraft construction. If youwant to do a little reesearch on wood, EAA has a book entitled 'Wood' thatis a good background data book.I built my Aircamper out of doug fir for structural members) plus some redcedar and white pine as well.$7.00/bd ft sounds a bit high; I paid about $1.40 per lineal ft of 2x4. Thisis $2.10/bd ft. I went to 84 lumber looked at their clear fir trim stock.2x4s work out nicely.Suggest that you go see lumber yards that supplycontractors; NOT HOME DEPOT OR LOWES. Ask where they keep their clear fir,then go sort through it but restack it so that its neat.I found clear fir 2x4s in 12, 14, 16 and 20 foot lengths; found several14' sticks that were clear, straight, and full dimension. Then I heftedthem and chose the 5 lightest ones. This yielded stock for four spars andthe leading and trailing edges. Made the spars 3/4" x 5" (trimmed to 43/4". laminated the spars out of 8 pieces of approximately 11/16 x13/16.Later planed them to 3/4' thicknessHope this helps.Lou Larsen in cool Florida----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: engine choices
Original Posted By: Kip & Beth Gardner
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: engine choicesIs the corvair college, lecture, demo and slides- or do the Pieters actually work on their own engines? Either way a broadhead corvair college sounds great.Henry Williams________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:06:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: engine choicesIs the corvair college, lecture, demo and slides- or do the Pieters actually work on their own engines? Either way a broadhead corvair college sounds great.Henry Williams________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:06:00 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: engine choices
Original Posted By: del magsam
Re: Pietenpol-List: engine choices
Original Posted By: del magsam
Re: Pietenpol-List: PIET: Buying wood
Original Posted By: Barry Davis
Hi Barry,I am building a GN1. I also looked around at the price of wood before Istarted. I am using Spruce for the tail feathers and wing ribs, and DouglasFir for the spars and fuselage. I am not too worried about the littleadditional weight of the Fir and the "price is right". Up here in CanadaSpruce is $14.50 per board foot compared to $4.25 for Fir and I can get Firin most builders supplys stores. According to the EAA. Fir is a littlemore difficult to work with, thats why I chose Spruce for the fiddly bitsthat require a bit more bending.Good luck on your wood hunt,Ken
Hi Barry,I am building a GN1. I also looked around at the price of wood before Istarted. I am using Spruce for the tail feathers and wing ribs, and DouglasFir for the spars and fuselage. I am not too worried about the littleadditional weight of the Fir and the "price is right". Up here in CanadaSpruce is $14.50 per board foot compared to $4.25 for Fir and I can get Firin most builders supplys stores. According to the EAA. Fir is a littlemore difficult to work with, thats why I chose Spruce for the fiddly bitsthat require a bit more bending.Good luck on your wood hunt,Ken
Re: Pietenpol-List: PIET: Buying wood
Original Posted By: "del magsam"
Just a tidbit on wood. Seems that one big industry for aircraft grade spruce was to make organpipes for the old pipe organs of the old churches. remember when I was ateen, my neighbor was a contractor for a large construction firm. and heshowed me a pile of wood in his basement that came from an old pipe organthat they had dismantled. Didn't know it at the time, but what I saw couldhave made many Piets. Wonder where that wood is now???I guess if kept dry, the spruce should be ok? anybody know?Guess my point is,,,don't be afraid to look around, and ask questions, younever know what might turn up.walt----- Original Message -----
Just a tidbit on wood. Seems that one big industry for aircraft grade spruce was to make organpipes for the old pipe organs of the old churches. remember when I was ateen, my neighbor was a contractor for a large construction firm. and heshowed me a pile of wood in his basement that came from an old pipe organthat they had dismantled. Didn't know it at the time, but what I saw couldhave made many Piets. Wonder where that wood is now???I guess if kept dry, the spruce should be ok? anybody know?Guess my point is,,,don't be afraid to look around, and ask questions, younever know what might turn up.walt----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: PIET: Buying wood
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Good point, Walt.This is where Wicks Aircraft Supply came from. Wicks has been amanufacturer or pipe organs for years before they decided to get into theaircraft supply business. I got my spars from Wicks and they are beautiful.Wicks still builds nice pipe organs.JackJust a tidbit on wood. Seems that one big industry for aircraft grade spruce was to make organpipes for the old pipe organs of the old churches. remember when I was ateen, my neighbor was a contractor for a large construction firm. and heshowed me a pile of wood in his basement that came from an old pipe organthat they had dismantled. Didn't know it at the time, but what I saw couldhave made many Piets. Wonder where that wood is now???I guess if kept dry, the spruce should be ok? anybody know?Guess my point is,,,don't be afraid to look around, and ask questions, younever know what might turn up.walt________________________________________________________________________________
Good point, Walt.This is where Wicks Aircraft Supply came from. Wicks has been amanufacturer or pipe organs for years before they decided to get into theaircraft supply business. I got my spars from Wicks and they are beautiful.Wicks still builds nice pipe organs.JackJust a tidbit on wood. Seems that one big industry for aircraft grade spruce was to make organpipes for the old pipe organs of the old churches. remember when I was ateen, my neighbor was a contractor for a large construction firm. and heshowed me a pile of wood in his basement that came from an old pipe organthat they had dismantled. Didn't know it at the time, but what I saw couldhave made many Piets. Wonder where that wood is now???I guess if kept dry, the spruce should be ok? anybody know?Guess my point is,,,don't be afraid to look around, and ask questions, younever know what might turn up.walt________________________________________________________________________________