Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
My winter project was going to be putting a compass( which I already have), airspeedand altimeter in the front hole. But I'm torn both ways. Do the peopleyou take for rides get a kick out of , or really use, the instruments? If the plane is used for your BFR, should you have these in? Do you HAVE to havethem in? Either way I'll put in the compass.Guess what I asking, is for the guys that have been flying the Piet for years,Do you have them, or would you consider them completely useless.thankswaltNX140DL(north N.J.)ps maybe best to put my money into ping-pong balls________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 17:54:13 -0500
Pietenpol-List: How many of you have instruments in the front hole?
RE: Pietenpol-List: How many of you have instruments in the front hole?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Been thinking about cockpit layout lately. I can read my tach and Airspeedindicator easily form where I'm sitting, they are on the shelf about fivefeet away. Why not mount the basic instruments at either side of the frontcockpit in small nacelle type blisters so they can be seen from bothcockpits. Then my bifocals wouldn't matter either;-)John-----Original Message-----
Been thinking about cockpit layout lately. I can read my tach and Airspeedindicator easily form where I'm sitting, they are on the shelf about fivefeet away. Why not mount the basic instruments at either side of the frontcockpit in small nacelle type blisters so they can be seen from bothcockpits. Then my bifocals wouldn't matter either;-)John-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: well, some of his pages are still around.....
Original Posted By: "Graham Hansen"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: well, some of his pages are still around.....Jim,Why don't you hop a cassino bus to Shv $10, give me your eta, we'll go to Lucien, check you out on 41CC, bring your Memphis, Houston, Dal-FtW and San Ant sectionals and take a heading. Then you won't have to rent anything. Can't beat a deal like that. Only available to Pieters.Corky looking for some old National Geographic maps of the western hemi.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: well, some of his pages are still around.....Jim,Why don't you hop a cassino bus to Shv $10, give me your eta, we'll go to Lucien, check you out on 41CC, bring your Memphis, Houston, Dal-FtW and San Ant sectionals and take a heading. Then you won't have to rent anything. Can't beat a deal like that. Only available to Pieters.Corky looking for some old National Geographic maps of the western hemi.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: How many of you have instruments in the front hole?
Original Posted By: "Michael Conkling"
John,Some old airplanes had instruments mounted in blisters, as you suggest. Onecould place the blisters forward on the underside of the center section,where they can be seen from both pits. Sure, they will add some drag---butthen a Pietenpol isn't exactly streamlined, either.And some old aircraft (Fokker and Ford airplanes?) with three engines hadengine gauges mounted on the inboard side of the wing-mounted enginenacelles. This shortened lines, etc. and simplified things.My Piet has instruments in the rear panel only. For a time I had a vane typeASI (similar to the one used on DH Moths) mounted on the left forwardjury strut for anyone flying from the front. It worked fine.Graham Hansen (CF-AUN)________________________________________________________________________________
John,Some old airplanes had instruments mounted in blisters, as you suggest. Onecould place the blisters forward on the underside of the center section,where they can be seen from both pits. Sure, they will add some drag---butthen a Pietenpol isn't exactly streamlined, either.And some old aircraft (Fokker and Ford airplanes?) with three engines hadengine gauges mounted on the inboard side of the wing-mounted enginenacelles. This shortened lines, etc. and simplified things.My Piet has instruments in the rear panel only. For a time I had a vane typeASI (similar to the one used on DH Moths) mounted on the left forwardjury strut for anyone flying from the front. It worked fine.Graham Hansen (CF-AUN)________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: How many of you have instruments in the front hole?
Original Posted By: "walter evans"
Walt,I seem to remember my instructor being able to cover up the airspeed &altimeter with his hands in the Cub -- the A/S was left of center & thealtimeter was on the right side of the panel. Should be easier to fly bysound in a Piet -- more wires whistling in the wind!!Ernst Udet had a his instruments mounted in a windshield shaped panel(outside of the cockpit) so he didn't need to look in the cockpit of his1931 U-12 "Flamingo"!Mike C.Pretty Prairie, KS----- Original Message -----
Walt,I seem to remember my instructor being able to cover up the airspeed &altimeter with his hands in the Cub -- the A/S was left of center & thealtimeter was on the right side of the panel. Should be easier to fly bysound in a Piet -- more wires whistling in the wind!!Ernst Udet had a his instruments mounted in a windshield shaped panel(outside of the cockpit) so he didn't need to look in the cockpit of his1931 U-12 "Flamingo"!Mike C.Pretty Prairie, KS----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: How many of you have instruments in the front hole?
Original Posted By: "Graham Hansen"
Graham,I am curious in asking why you removed the vane type "ASI".Alex Sloan----- Original Message -----
Graham,I am curious in asking why you removed the vane type "ASI".Alex Sloan----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: How many of you have instruments in the front hole?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mike Another idea might be to close in the front pit and zip up a tonneau coverto your flying togs.Would keep the wind right out and with the instruments outside behind theirown little windshieldyou could tolerate flying in colder weather.John-----Original Message-----
Mike Another idea might be to close in the front pit and zip up a tonneau coverto your flying togs.Would keep the wind right out and with the instruments outside behind theirown little windshieldyou could tolerate flying in colder weather.John-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: How many of you have instruments in the front hole?
Original Posted By: lshutks(at)webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
Hi Walt,I've got some instrumentation in the front 'pit: an airspeed indicator, analtimeter, a nonworking Turn & Bank (the ball works - that's all I wasinterested in. I removed the heavy gyro and glued the needle centered), anda compass. Mostly because I thought it looked better than a blank sheet ofplywood, but it does give back-ups to the rear instruments (who needsinstruments in a Piet anyway?). It also gives my wife something to look at,and if I need her to hold a compass heading for a while, she can do it.I like the idea of a carb heat control reachable from the front cockpit, butit's too late for that on mine. It could be done with a throttle quadrantlike the old Champs used to have. I don't have brakes in the front cockpiteither, just in the rear.JackMy winter project was going to be putting a compass( which I already have),airspeed and altimeter in the front hole. But I'm torn both ways. Do thepeople you take for rides get a kick out of , or really use, theinstruments?If the plane is used for your BFR, should you have these in? Do you HAVE tohave them in? Either way I'll put in the compass.Guess what I asking, is for the guys that have been flying the Piet foryears, Do you have them, or would you consider them completely useless.thankswaltNX140DL(north N.J.)ps maybe best to put my money into ping-pong balls________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Walt,I've got some instrumentation in the front 'pit: an airspeed indicator, analtimeter, a nonworking Turn & Bank (the ball works - that's all I wasinterested in. I removed the heavy gyro and glued the needle centered), anda compass. Mostly because I thought it looked better than a blank sheet ofplywood, but it does give back-ups to the rear instruments (who needsinstruments in a Piet anyway?). It also gives my wife something to look at,and if I need her to hold a compass heading for a while, she can do it.I like the idea of a carb heat control reachable from the front cockpit, butit's too late for that on mine. It could be done with a throttle quadrantlike the old Champs used to have. I don't have brakes in the front cockpiteither, just in the rear.JackMy winter project was going to be putting a compass( which I already have),airspeed and altimeter in the front hole. But I'm torn both ways. Do thepeople you take for rides get a kick out of , or really use, theinstruments?If the plane is used for your BFR, should you have these in? Do you HAVE tohave them in? Either way I'll put in the compass.Guess what I asking, is for the guys that have been flying the Piet foryears, Do you have them, or would you consider them completely useless.thankswaltNX140DL(north N.J.)ps maybe best to put my money into ping-pong balls________________________________________________________________________________