Original Posted By: "walter evans"
I just had a heart stopping experience.... Went around for some localflying today in the club 152. A friend and I were just zipping around thevalley (nice day today... partly cloudy and 68 degrees).Just as I'm calling Falcon Field Tower for landing my friend yells "Bird!"Straight ahead at same altitude is a huge Falcon heading straight at us. Ihad about 1 second to react... I nosed over hard and to the right just asthe bird slipped passed us right over the windshield... I swear I saw thelook in that bird eyes.It's a damn good thing my friend yelled cause I was looking off to my rightat Falcon Field as I was calling in for landing.If I hadn't have nosed over that Falcon would have hit either smack in thecenter of the windshield or an engine intake.Those Falcons are big too.. probably 6lbs and 4 ft. wingspan. I figure wewere doing around 100kts and the bird was probably doing 20kts.I could only imagine if it had hit the windshield... it'd have gone rightthrough into the cockpit.I've come close to birds before, but this was a definate near miss.What's amazing is just about 20 minutes prior to that we almost hit a heartshaped mylar helium balloon (Valentine's balloon no doubt). That wasn't asscary since a balloon would most likely not do any damage....Just goes to show you, you can have months of boring flying and then in oneday have a handful.I'm definately gonna mark down some remarks of today's flight in thelogbook... look back at it 20 yrs from now and chuckle.DJ Veghwww.raptoronline.comThis email has been scanned for known viruses and made safe for viewing by HalfPrice Hosting, a leading email and web hosting provider. For more informationon an anti-virus email solution, visit .________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Original Posted By: "DJ Vegh"
Tell your friend that he deffinitely saved one life today,,, and maybethree.Can you imagine getting hit in the face with a bag of sugar at 100mph? Ican't.I could have taken you both out, not to mention the loss to the raptorneighborhood.All of us in the sky have a special bond, either bird or Piet. (that thepeople walking the dirt don't understand)walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Tell your friend that he deffinitely saved one life today,,, and maybethree.Can you imagine getting hit in the face with a bag of sugar at 100mph? Ican't.I could have taken you both out, not to mention the loss to the raptorneighborhood.All of us in the sky have a special bond, either bird or Piet. (that thepeople walking the dirt don't understand)walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Original Posted By: "DJ Vegh"
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RE: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
DJ,A cessna will not fly with the windshield. It disturbs the airflow so muchover the tail that they can't fly. Call it a lucky day.The mylar balloons are lots of fun to chase. Unless the prop actually hitsthem, they will bounce off the windshield and you have to go back and do itagain. It is pretty hard to find it the second time around too. I used tolive on the north side of Dallas and with the prevailing south wind, everyafternoon had its handfull of balloons. I was a regular Frank Luke. Atleast a double ace and maybe even a triple. One time, in my Taylorcraft, Ihit the balloon low and to the right. After bursting, the big piece ofmylar wrapped itself around the wing strut and I landed with the "victim" asa souvenir.As far as the falcon, I have seen flight of ducks pass over the top of thecockpit, in the SAAB 340 without lights on, at 250KTS, at 9000 feet, ATNIGHT.chris bobka-----Original Message-----
DJ,A cessna will not fly with the windshield. It disturbs the airflow so muchover the tail that they can't fly. Call it a lucky day.The mylar balloons are lots of fun to chase. Unless the prop actually hitsthem, they will bounce off the windshield and you have to go back and do itagain. It is pretty hard to find it the second time around too. I used tolive on the north side of Dallas and with the prevailing south wind, everyafternoon had its handfull of balloons. I was a regular Frank Luke. Atleast a double ace and maybe even a triple. One time, in my Taylorcraft, Ihit the balloon low and to the right. After bursting, the big piece ofmylar wrapped itself around the wing strut and I landed with the "victim" asa souvenir.As far as the falcon, I have seen flight of ducks pass over the top of thecockpit, in the SAAB 340 without lights on, at 250KTS, at 9000 feet, ATNIGHT.chris bobka-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Original Posted By: "Cy Galley"
DJ,A cessna will not fly with the windshield gone. It disturbs the airflow somuchover the tail that they can't fly. Call it a lucky day.The mylar balloons are lots of fun to chase. Unless the prop actually hitsthem, they will bounce off the windshield and you have to go back and do itagain. It is pretty hard to find it the second time around too. I used tolive on the north side of Dallas and with the prevailing south wind, everyafternoon had its handfull of balloons. I was a regular Frank Luke. Atleast a double ace and maybe even a triple. One time, in my Taylorcraft, Ihit the balloon low and to the right. After bursting, the big piece ofmylar wrapped itself around the wing strut and I landed with the "victim" asa souvenir.As far as the falcon, I have seen flight of ducks pass over the top of thecockpit, in the SAAB 340 without lights on, at 250KTS, at 9000 feet, ATNIGHT.chris bobka________________________________________________________________________________
DJ,A cessna will not fly with the windshield gone. It disturbs the airflow somuchover the tail that they can't fly. Call it a lucky day.The mylar balloons are lots of fun to chase. Unless the prop actually hitsthem, they will bounce off the windshield and you have to go back and do itagain. It is pretty hard to find it the second time around too. I used tolive on the north side of Dallas and with the prevailing south wind, everyafternoon had its handfull of balloons. I was a regular Frank Luke. Atleast a double ace and maybe even a triple. One time, in my Taylorcraft, Ihit the balloon low and to the right. After bursting, the big piece ofmylar wrapped itself around the wing strut and I landed with the "victim" asa souvenir.As far as the falcon, I have seen flight of ducks pass over the top of thecockpit, in the SAAB 340 without lights on, at 250KTS, at 9000 feet, ATNIGHT.chris bobka________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Original Posted By: "Christian Bobka"
I think you met to say... "A Cessna will not fly withOUT the windshield. Itdisturbs the airflow so much over the tail that they can't fly. Call it alucky day."----- Original Message -----
I think you met to say... "A Cessna will not fly withOUT the windshield. Itdisturbs the airflow so much over the tail that they can't fly. Call it alucky day."----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Original Posted By: "Christian Bobka"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrikeIn a message dated 2/16/2003 3:14:58 AM Central Standard Time, cgalley(at)qcbc.org writes:> think you met to say... "A Cessna will not fly withOUT the windshield. It> disturbs the airflow so much over the tail that they can't fly. Call it a> lucky day."> Actually, they will fly without a windshield but it's a bit windy and noisy.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrikeIn a message dated 2/16/2003 3:14:58 AM Central Standard Time, cgalley(at)qcbc.org writes:> think you met to say... "A Cessna will not fly withOUT the windshield. It> disturbs the airflow so much over the tail that they can't fly. Call it a> lucky day."> Actually, they will fly without a windshield but it's a bit windy and noisy.________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
true. I corrected it in a minute. My mind gets ahead of my fingers.-----Original Message-----
true. I corrected it in a minute. My mind gets ahead of my fingers.-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Original Posted By: TomTravis(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrikeHi Chris,I've hit a bunch of birds over the years but, so far, haven't lost a windshield yet. A couple of friends have had windshields taken out and they say it's really niosy but they mostly talked about the mess inside the airplane.I think the worst story I ever heard was the guy who hit a buzzard on the left wing root in a 172. Buzzard innards came in through the vent and covered him. He said the smell was just overpowering.One time I hit a bird going into Memphis in a 727. It hit just above the left eyebrow window. Being a young eager captain I followed all the procedures and reported a bird strike. FedEx sent a mechanic over with a stand and he checked #2 engine for damage. No problem. I started the paperwork and soon got bogged down. They wanted to know what species, sex, direction of flight and all sorts of silly stuff. They almost demanded his mother's maiden name. Hell, it was just a bird. From then on I only hit bugs - some of them had feathers though.Hit a duck one night in my Bonanza. He went through the prop and impacted the lower left side of the cowl. The damage was about $5,000. I could tell it was a green-head mallard though. Sure made a loud sound and the airplane jerked sideways so there was no doubt that I had hit something.Did a lot of flying down in South America and always wondered what a condor would do to a jet. Tom ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrikeHi Chris,I've hit a bunch of birds over the years but, so far, haven't lost a windshield yet. A couple of friends have had windshields taken out and they say it's really niosy but they mostly talked about the mess inside the airplane.I think the worst story I ever heard was the guy who hit a buzzard on the left wing root in a 172. Buzzard innards came in through the vent and covered him. He said the smell was just overpowering.One time I hit a bird going into Memphis in a 727. It hit just above the left eyebrow window. Being a young eager captain I followed all the procedures and reported a bird strike. FedEx sent a mechanic over with a stand and he checked #2 engine for damage. No problem. I started the paperwork and soon got bogged down. They wanted to know what species, sex, direction of flight and all sorts of silly stuff. They almost demanded his mother's maiden name. Hell, it was just a bird. From then on I only hit bugs - some of them had feathers though.Hit a duck one night in my Bonanza. He went through the prop and impacted the lower left side of the cowl. The damage was about $5,000. I could tell it was a green-head mallard though. Sure made a loud sound and the airplane jerked sideways so there was no doubt that I had hit something.Did a lot of flying down in South America and always wondered what a condor would do to a jet. Tom ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrike
Original Posted By: Kip & Beth Gardner
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrikeOops. Sorry guys. Thought I was responding to Chris off the board. Tom________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:10:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: near birdstrikeOops. Sorry guys. Thought I was responding to Chris off the board. Tom________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:10:22 -0500