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Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:45 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Les Schubert
Only a couple of things to add to what's already been said about the rudder-barsvs. pedals:1. If you're confused about which way the rudder goes when the rudder bar is deflected,just think of what it's doing. It's PULLING the rudder on the side youare pushing. It seems to me it's the same whether you use a bar or pedals.2. While in my cockpit, my feet never seem to be sticking straight up. They naturallyassume a 45 degree angle to the outside (genetics? Natural anatomy?) sothe balls of my feet DO hit the rudder bar and feel quite natural. I have neverhad to go anywhere near full deflection yet.3. Whoever posted "If we all (built to the plans) none of these birds would everfly thanks to all of Bernie's omissions", and all the others on the list thatfeel that way, let me quote something from an often-referenced book. "When you make the decision to build, no matter what it is, you are no longera spectator. During my years in aviation, I have come to have a tremendousrespect for anyone who builds a single part, and I have nothing but the deepestcontempt for anyone who would begin to critique another man's work, havingdone none himself. We have all overheard some jackass pontificating while walking between therows of homebuilts at an airshow. With my aviation experience, I can clearlytell he's built nothing; my experience with people tells me he never will. Donot be put off by fools like this. The mere fact that you are now reading ...(thisbook)... shows that your place is among the true aviators. Any effort youmake is beyond the critique of mere spectators."Wm. WynneSo.......... have you designed and published plans for an airplane? Did you evenbuild your own airplane or are you simply a Pontificating jackass?Piets forever-Larry________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:14:26 -0600

Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 3:37 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy

Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 4:47 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Kip & Beth Gardner"
Not taking ANYBODYS side,,,,This thing about all the ommisions from theplans. I didn't find that at all. I think I had a worse time building amodern day kit, which still wasn't bad. Only difference was that I couldcall the modern factory, where Bernard is hard to reach.If there is a list of omissions from the plans I'd like to see them. Iremember when I first recieved the plans and looked at them while waitingto pick up my daughter from some nite classes at a county college. (She hada foot operation and couldn't drive)When I first saw them I remember saying "where's the rest of theinformation?"But the more you look, the more is there.Please, Please someone tell me what in particular is missing.waltsorry for pontificating----- Original Message -----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 5:23 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: clif

Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 5:54 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Kip & Beth Gardner"
Kip,Nah, remember when we were kids and we wanted to poke at the bees nest?Just because your mother yelled at you, doesn't mean that you won't poke thenest again.Life shouldn't be full of yes men.we got to keep the juices flowing, and I want to learn.walt----- Original Message -----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:14 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Kip & Beth Gardner"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:32 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Bert Conoly"
Expert - is a drip...under pressure----- Original Message -----

Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 9:07 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "walter evans"
wrote:> > "When you make the decision to build, no matter> what it is, you are> >no longer a spectator. During my years in aviation, I> have come to have a> >tremendous respect for anyone who builds a single> part, and I have nothing> >but the deepest contempt for anyone who would beginto> critique another> >man's work, having done none himself.I simply have a sign in our shop - "No Critiquing UntilYou've Dirtied YOUR Hands On This Project!"Craig WilcoxSenior Environmental Scientist ICZR Incorporated561/747-7455 Cell 561/718-1794PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com ________________________________________________________________________________