Original Posted By: rhartwig11(at)juno.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION
Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION
Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION
Original Posted By: Ken Rickards
05/07/2003 09:20:07 AMWhile we are on the subject of allergic reactions to chemicals, I wouldreccomend using a latex free glove, the medical profession is switchingaway from Latex gloves due to so many people developing severe alergies tolatex. Just my two cents... I know this as I work for a large health careprovider.John Dupreyrhartwig11(at)juno.com@matronics.com on 05/07/2003 08:55:20 AMPlease respond to pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comSent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.comcc:Subject: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTIONEpoxy resin can be hazardous to your health and it is too bad that themanufacturers don't put this in big bold letters on the label of theirproduct (without the government telling them.) The mild odor of epoxyresin lulls people into thinking that it will do no harm. If epoxy hadthe nasty smell of polyester resin people might be more careful with it.Severe reactions are a real possibility. You should always use glovessuch as latex (those that do not have powered latex) or nitrile and it isa good idea to apply barrier cream on your hands before putting thegloves on. Work in a well ventilated area and wear a cartridgerespirator that filters out chemicals. The hardener contains the badstuff.Some epoxy brands advertise that they do not contain the hazardoussubstance Methyleneadianiline (MDA). These may be safer, I don't know,but I would still take the above precautions if using them and check (andtest) to see if they are good for bonding wood. T-88 and West System areformulated for excellent wetting and bonding of wood and good waterresistance when cured--I don't know if they contain MDA..You may get a rash the first time you use epoxy. You may get a reactionthe hundredth time you use it. You may never get a reaction. You mayhave health consequences from it ten or twenty years from now--and youmay not. Psoriasis and other debilitating diseases are a possibility.Why take a chance? A box of gloves is about ten bucks and a respiratoris about $35 bucks. Some boat builders can no longer use their boatsbecause of sensitivity to epoxy. It would be a shame if you spent 2000hours of your life and $10,000 of your hard earned money and then couldnot even sit in your creation.I would read carefully the warnings on carb or brake cleaner or othersolvents before using them. These chemicals might cause their ownproblems. Vinegar and/or soapy water are the safe bet for cleaning yourhands, but prevention is the best way to go.Ken gives some good advice on handling epoxy and please read Alex's post,then contemplate how you are going to handle the stuff.Dick H.
05/07/2003 09:20:07 AMWhile we are on the subject of allergic reactions to chemicals, I wouldreccomend using a latex free glove, the medical profession is switchingaway from Latex gloves due to so many people developing severe alergies tolatex. Just my two cents... I know this as I work for a large health careprovider.John Dupreyrhartwig11(at)juno.com@matronics.com on 05/07/2003 08:55:20 AMPlease respond to pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comSent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.comcc:Subject: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTIONEpoxy resin can be hazardous to your health and it is too bad that themanufacturers don't put this in big bold letters on the label of theirproduct (without the government telling them.) The mild odor of epoxyresin lulls people into thinking that it will do no harm. If epoxy hadthe nasty smell of polyester resin people might be more careful with it.Severe reactions are a real possibility. You should always use glovessuch as latex (those that do not have powered latex) or nitrile and it isa good idea to apply barrier cream on your hands before putting thegloves on. Work in a well ventilated area and wear a cartridgerespirator that filters out chemicals. The hardener contains the badstuff.Some epoxy brands advertise that they do not contain the hazardoussubstance Methyleneadianiline (MDA). These may be safer, I don't know,but I would still take the above precautions if using them and check (andtest) to see if they are good for bonding wood. T-88 and West System areformulated for excellent wetting and bonding of wood and good waterresistance when cured--I don't know if they contain MDA..You may get a rash the first time you use epoxy. You may get a reactionthe hundredth time you use it. You may never get a reaction. You mayhave health consequences from it ten or twenty years from now--and youmay not. Psoriasis and other debilitating diseases are a possibility.Why take a chance? A box of gloves is about ten bucks and a respiratoris about $35 bucks. Some boat builders can no longer use their boatsbecause of sensitivity to epoxy. It would be a shame if you spent 2000hours of your life and $10,000 of your hard earned money and then couldnot even sit in your creation.I would read carefully the warnings on carb or brake cleaner or othersolvents before using them. These chemicals might cause their ownproblems. Vinegar and/or soapy water are the safe bet for cleaning yourhands, but prevention is the best way to go.Ken gives some good advice on handling epoxy and please read Alex's post,then contemplate how you are going to handle the stuff.Dick H.
Re: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION
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Dick H..Thanks,Alex S.----- Original Message -----
Dick H..Thanks,Alex S.----- Original Message -----
> Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION
Original Posted By:> > Ken Rickards
After many years working in aircraft depots for the Air Force I have come to depend highly on the information in the MSDS (material safety data sheet). Each one of the chemicals that we use is required by OSHA to have one of these available to us if we ask for it. Sometimes it scares me half to death to see some of the stuff that is in there. It gives the chemical makeup of the product, "known" health hazards and protective measures to take when using them. I am not sure where the average guy would find them but I am certain that you have access to them!>From: "Alex Sloan" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION>Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 09:22:48 -0500>>>Dick H..>Thanks,>Alex S.>----- Original Message ----->From: >To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION>>> >> > Epoxy resin can be hazardous to your health and it is too bad that the> > manufacturers don't put this in big bold letters on the label of their> > product (without the government telling them.) The mild odor of epoxy> > resin lulls people into thinking that it will do no harm. If epoxy had> > the nasty smell of polyester resin people might be more careful with it.> > Severe reactions are a real possibility. You should always use gloves> > such as latex (those that do not have powered latex) or nitrile and it >is> > a good idea to apply barrier cream on your hands before putting the> > gloves on. Work in a well ventilated area and wear a cartridge> > respirator that filters out chemicals. The hardener contains the bad> > stuff.> >> > Some epoxy brands advertise that they do not contain the hazardous> > substance Methyleneadianiline (MDA). These may be safer, I don't know,> > but I would still take the above precautions if using them and check >(and> > test) to see if they are good for bonding wood. T-88 and West System are> > formulated for excellent wetting and bonding of wood and good water> > resistance when cured--I don't know if they contain MDA..> >> > You may get a rash the first time you use epoxy. You may get a reaction> > the hundredth time you use it. You may never get a reaction. You may> > have health consequences from it ten or twenty years from now--and you> > may not. Psoriasis and other debilitating diseases are a possibility.> > Why take a chance? A box of gloves is about ten bucks and a respirator> > is about $35 bucks. Some boat builders can no longer use their boats> > because of sensitivity to epoxy. It would be a shame if you spent 2000> > hours of your life and $10,000 of your hard earned money and then could> > not even sit in your creation.> >> > I would read carefully the warnings on carb or brake cleaner or other> > solvents before using them. These chemicals might cause their own> > problems. Vinegar and/or soapy water are the safe bet for cleaning your> > hands, but prevention is the best way to go.> >> > Ken gives some good advice on handling epoxy and please read Alex's >post,> > then contemplate how you are going to handle the stuff.> >> > Dick H.> >
After many years working in aircraft depots for the Air Force I have come to depend highly on the information in the MSDS (material safety data sheet). Each one of the chemicals that we use is required by OSHA to have one of these available to us if we ask for it. Sometimes it scares me half to death to see some of the stuff that is in there. It gives the chemical makeup of the product, "known" health hazards and protective measures to take when using them. I am not sure where the average guy would find them but I am certain that you have access to them!>From: "Alex Sloan" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION>Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 09:22:48 -0500>>>Dick H..>Thanks,>Alex S.>----- Original Message ----->From: >To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION>>> >> > Epoxy resin can be hazardous to your health and it is too bad that the> > manufacturers don't put this in big bold letters on the label of their> > product (without the government telling them.) The mild odor of epoxy> > resin lulls people into thinking that it will do no harm. If epoxy had> > the nasty smell of polyester resin people might be more careful with it.> > Severe reactions are a real possibility. You should always use gloves> > such as latex (those that do not have powered latex) or nitrile and it >is> > a good idea to apply barrier cream on your hands before putting the> > gloves on. Work in a well ventilated area and wear a cartridge> > respirator that filters out chemicals. The hardener contains the bad> > stuff.> >> > Some epoxy brands advertise that they do not contain the hazardous> > substance Methyleneadianiline (MDA). These may be safer, I don't know,> > but I would still take the above precautions if using them and check >(and> > test) to see if they are good for bonding wood. T-88 and West System are> > formulated for excellent wetting and bonding of wood and good water> > resistance when cured--I don't know if they contain MDA..> >> > You may get a rash the first time you use epoxy. You may get a reaction> > the hundredth time you use it. You may never get a reaction. You may> > have health consequences from it ten or twenty years from now--and you> > may not. Psoriasis and other debilitating diseases are a possibility.> > Why take a chance? A box of gloves is about ten bucks and a respirator> > is about $35 bucks. Some boat builders can no longer use their boats> > because of sensitivity to epoxy. It would be a shame if you spent 2000> > hours of your life and $10,000 of your hard earned money and then could> > not even sit in your creation.> >> > I would read carefully the warnings on carb or brake cleaner or other> > solvents before using them. These chemicals might cause their own> > problems. Vinegar and/or soapy water are the safe bet for cleaning your> > hands, but prevention is the best way to go.> >> > Ken gives some good advice on handling epoxy and please read Alex's >post,> > then contemplate how you are going to handle the stuff.> >> > Dick H.> >
> Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION
Original Posted By:> > Ken Rickards
After many years working in aircraft depots for the Air Force I have come to depend highly on the information in the MSDS (material safety data sheet). Each one of the chemicals that we use is required by OSHA to have one of these available to us if we ask for it. Sometimes it scares me half to death to see some of the stuff that is in there. It gives the chemical makeup of the product, "known" health hazards and protective measures to take when using them. I am not sure where the average guy would find them but I am certain that you have access to them!>From: "Alex Sloan" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION>Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 09:22:48 -0500>>>Dick H..>Thanks,>Alex S.>----- Original Message ----->From: >To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION>>> >> > Epoxy resin can be hazardous to your health and it is too bad that the> > manufacturers don't put this in big bold letters on the label of their> > product (without the government telling them.) The mild odor of epoxy> > resin lulls people into thinking that it will do no harm. If epoxy had> > the nasty smell of polyester resin people might be more careful with it.> > Severe reactions are a real possibility. You should always use gloves> > such as latex (those that do not have powered latex) or nitrile and it >is> > a good idea to apply barrier cream on your hands before putting the> > gloves on. Work in a well ventilated area and wear a cartridge> > respirator that filters out chemicals. The hardener contains the bad> > stuff.> >> > Some epoxy brands advertise that they do not contain the hazardous> > substance Methyleneadianiline (MDA). These may be safer, I don't know,> > but I would still take the above precautions if using them and check >(and> > test) to see if they are good for bonding wood. T-88 and West System are> > formulated for excellent wetting and bonding of wood and good water> > resistance when cured--I don't know if they contain MDA..> >> > You may get a rash the first time you use epoxy. You may get a reaction> > the hundredth time you use it. You may never get a reaction. You may> > have health consequences from it ten or twenty years from now--and you> > may not. Psoriasis and other debilitating diseases are a possibility.> > Why take a chance? A box of gloves is about ten bucks and a respirator> > is about $35 bucks. Some boat builders can no longer use their boats> > because of sensitivity to epoxy. It would be a shame if you spent 2000> > hours of your life and $10,000 of your hard earned money and then could> > not even sit in your creation.> >> > I would read carefully the warnings on carb or brake cleaner or other> > solvents before using them. These chemicals might cause their own> > problems. Vinegar and/or soapy water are the safe bet for cleaning your> > hands, but prevention is the best way to go.> >> > Ken gives some good advice on handling epoxy and please read Alex's >post,> > then contemplate how you are going to handle the stuff.> >> > Dick H.> >
After many years working in aircraft depots for the Air Force I have come to depend highly on the information in the MSDS (material safety data sheet). Each one of the chemicals that we use is required by OSHA to have one of these available to us if we ask for it. Sometimes it scares me half to death to see some of the stuff that is in there. It gives the chemical makeup of the product, "known" health hazards and protective measures to take when using them. I am not sure where the average guy would find them but I am certain that you have access to them!>From: "Alex Sloan" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION>Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 09:22:48 -0500>>>Dick H..>Thanks,>Alex S.>----- Original Message ----->From: >To: >Subject: Pietenpol-List: EPOXY REACTION>>> >> > Epoxy resin can be hazardous to your health and it is too bad that the> > manufacturers don't put this in big bold letters on the label of their> > product (without the government telling them.) The mild odor of epoxy> > resin lulls people into thinking that it will do no harm. If epoxy had> > the nasty smell of polyester resin people might be more careful with it.> > Severe reactions are a real possibility. You should always use gloves> > such as latex (those that do not have powered latex) or nitrile and it >is> > a good idea to apply barrier cream on your hands before putting the> > gloves on. Work in a well ventilated area and wear a cartridge> > respirator that filters out chemicals. The hardener contains the bad> > stuff.> >> > Some epoxy brands advertise that they do not contain the hazardous> > substance Methyleneadianiline (MDA). These may be safer, I don't know,> > but I would still take the above precautions if using them and check >(and> > test) to see if they are good for bonding wood. T-88 and West System are> > formulated for excellent wetting and bonding of wood and good water> > resistance when cured--I don't know if they contain MDA..> >> > You may get a rash the first time you use epoxy. You may get a reaction> > the hundredth time you use it. You may never get a reaction. You may> > have health consequences from it ten or twenty years from now--and you> > may not. Psoriasis and other debilitating diseases are a possibility.> > Why take a chance? A box of gloves is about ten bucks and a respirator> > is about $35 bucks. Some boat builders can no longer use their boats> > because of sensitivity to epoxy. It would be a shame if you spent 2000> > hours of your life and $10,000 of your hard earned money and then could> > not even sit in your creation.> >> > I would read carefully the warnings on carb or brake cleaner or other> > solvents before using them. These chemicals might cause their own> > problems. Vinegar and/or soapy water are the safe bet for cleaning your> > hands, but prevention is the best way to go.> >> > Ken gives some good advice on handling epoxy and please read Alex's >post,> > then contemplate how you are going to handle the stuff.> >> > Dick H.> >