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Re: Pietenpol-List: Drilling holes
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 9:05 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Leon Stefan"
Hi,Concerning your inquiry about an A powered plane in Deland; haven't seenthe article but it probably is Bud Roger's A powered SE-5. He has had itat S-F. He has had a booth there also DBA 'Thrust, Inc." sellin a 350Chevy conversion.I know Bud from way back, fabricated the ailerons for him for a Travelaire2000. He has restored seveal planes including an OX Curtiss Robin andscratch built several others. He is an AI .The SE-5 has an 'A' with a starter and electronic ignition; it should becomplete by now. If you want to contact him, I can look up one of hiscards.Hope this helps.Lou LarsenIn Tavares FL; just finished the last coat of silver, waiting on the colorpaint.PS Its an A powered Piet with straight axle and 21" .----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Drilling holes
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 3:38 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Stefan Vorkoetter
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Drilling holesGene. I bought a drill guide thing at Oshkosh several years ago thatworks just fine for drilling holes straight. I've seen them at Acehardware, Harbor Tool, and other places since. It consists of a basewith 2 vertical rods that lean either direction for angle holes. On therods set a cross piece with a chuck for your drill bit, then you chuckyour drill to this chuck and go to town. The base also has ears to holdtubing in perfect alignment for drilling holes threw tubing. It costedabout 25 bucks. I put gluedplywood on the fus., under the stab. until the stab. cord was level withthe fuselage longerons.I plan to put screws threw the stab. leading edge as shown on the plans.Again, I built up under the le. with ply so it is resting on somethingwhen bolted down. I guess I will leavethe shelf bare like most people are doing. Running fabric up to thefirewall with no boot cowl also defeats fire prevention logic.I haven't got to my prop yet, so I can't give an opinion there. I didbuy an adaptor from Dick Weeden at Brodhead so I can use props with theCont. bolt pattern. Does anyone know anything about the Model A guy andhis Model A conversion in DeLand Fl, mentioned in the new Sport Av.,p.68? Leon S.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 16:48:26 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Drilling holes
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 4:55 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Michael D Cuy"
yea, yea, I've heard that one (drill from each side) but I am leery ofscrewing up a hole in my longeron. I used to have a jig built of a piece ofsquare tubing with two stand-offs welded to it, one was adjustable. I neverwas really happy with it.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Drilling holes
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 6:14 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
Cube up some 1 1/2 in. pcs of 2x4 and drill the size holes that you will beusing in them. After you drill a starter hole deep enough (maybe 1/16 in.to1/8 in.) to aid in finding the hole with your drill bit thru the cube, youshould not have a problem drilling a good hole. Use a drill press to drillthe cubes to make sure the holes are perpendicular to the surface you wishto drill. These little dudes will get you into some tight drilling spots.DickG.----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Drilling holes
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 6:29 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Gene Rambo [mailto:rambog(at)erols.com]
Weld up a jig that looks like a C-clamp, but with steel tubes to guide thedrill where the screw would go. Some people have even used a C-clamp tostart with. Weld on the tubing in one piece, then cut out the sectioninside the "C" so you have two perfectly aligned segments. Clamp yourfittings on both sides of the structure, stick a bolt, drill bit, oranything else through the sleeve on one side, into the hole in the fitting,then drill from the other side. When you get through, your drill will pushout the pin and you'll have two perfectly aligned holes. I've made severalof these in various sizes and for both AN3 and AN4 bolts. I even made upone with bent arms to get to the cabane struts.Gene-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Drilling holes
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 6:47 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Jim Malley
Re: Pietenpol-List: Drilling holes
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 6:50 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Dick and Marge Gillespie"
I am afraid of any tool whose only purpose is to keep the drill straight onone side. Most of the holes that I am talking about are on a curvedsurface (the fuselage side) and so there is no way to drill square throughand hit the other side. Maybe I am making too much of it, I just thoughtsomeone, surely, has built a drill jig.Gene----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Drilling holes
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 9:46 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Hubbard, Eugene"
Gene,I built one of these and it works great. You can go tohttp://
www.eaa1067.org/images/jig.jpg and see a picture of one I made. Youput the drill in from the right and place the bolt in the hole in the metalfitting on the left. When making the jig you drill out the left hole withthe drill coming from the right. That makes the drill comeout exactly where the hole is on the left.Ted----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Drilling holes
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 9:51 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
Gene,, For what it's worth, I used a piece of steel stock 3"x3" 3/4 thick.I used the drill press to put in a few holes. ( 8th, 3/16, 1/4).I would slide the piece on the bit close to the top, start my hole so thebit wouldn't move, and then slide the piece down on the surface giving me a90 degree straight thru. Works great just measure five and drill once.Carl----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet builders in Montana?
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 10:08 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "tim moody"
Hi TimWe are in St. Paul, Mn. but fly into Bozeman on a regular basis. We spendlots of time in Gardner.I always like to talk Piet's. I get lots of spare time while my wife hitsthe antique shops around Four Corners.Dick Navratil----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Piet builders in Montana?
Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 11:35 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: clif