Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Hodgson, Mark O"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: brass dataplatesOscar,Got mine also. It's great. Nice design and appropriate recgonition and respect for BHP.Corky________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Visiting BrodheadDate: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:42 -0400

Original Posted By: "Gadd, Skip"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Visiting BrodheadHi! I too am new to the group and to building airplanes. The only previous experience I've had is I built a pair of "Airbike" (ultralight) wings. I boughtan abandoned project, started by someone who really knew what he was doing. I've not been sorry..in fact, I'm tickled to death, because I got a really gooddeal on it, I've saved GOBS of time and I've learned a lot about craftsmanshipby observing what my predecessor did. Good luck.....(whatadya got to loose?)....Carl________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Carbarvo(at)aol.com
Mark,Welcome to the list.If you like working with wood and have good mechanical aptitude you willprobably enjoy learning the other skills you have to learn to build a Piet.The main question is how much of the work you want to do, any plans builtplane is going to be a lot more work than a kit.My opinion, the less hours you have when you start flying tail wheel thebetter.Warning, if you come to the Piet fly-in at Brodhead, you may not want tobuild anything else.Skip--> > I'm concerned about a number of things: a) as a low-time pilot without(as>yet) a tail wheel rating, b) who has some experience with wood-working butno experience tinkering with engines, is a Piet too ambitious a project forme? I've got a good mechanicalaptitude and am not bad with tools, but wonder if I would be wiser startingwith a standard (and much more expensive) kit as a project, ________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Patrick Driscoll"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Visiting BrodheadMark.....On my original response to your message, I let two thoughts run together. The abandoned project that I referred to is a Pietenpol Aircamper project. The only reason for mentioning the Airbike wings was to give you someidea of how much (little) experience I have had with airplane construction. In fact, I have bought two incomplete Aircamper projects. I bought the first one ayear ago. Then in November, before I got under way with the first Aircamper, Ifound another one which fit my list of requirements even better than the firstone did. So I bought it too. I decided to complete the second one then deal with disposing of the first one. I call the first one Piete and the second oneRePiete......Carl________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Brants"
Mark, Have you looked at the KR type aircraft. They are wood and fiberglass as opposed to wood and fabric. Pat Driscoll________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "Hodgson, Mark O"
Mark,I think if you make the descision to build a piet, you won't bedissapointed. It's probably one of the easiest aircraft to build and ofcourse you'll have the great support of everyone on this group. If you likewoodwork like I do, you'll enjoy the construction of the piet. Most of itso far has been pretty intuitive if you are decent with woodworking tools.There have been a few challenges but wood is so forgiving that it's prettyhard to make a really costly mistake.Of course the opinions you'll receive on this list are quite biased towardthe Piet. I would agree with others who've said, once you attend Brodhead,you won't want to build anything else.Tom Brant, Brooklyn Park, MN----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Patrick Driscoll"
I say we throw the bum out....FIBERGLASS... humpf! ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Larry Neal"
My 5 year old just walked in the room and said "Dad, why are you laughing??"He just wouldn't understand....Thanks Larry.....----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Larry Neal"
Just so you people know, I have looked at the pietenpol and thought ofbuilding one but I have built a KR2 (1974 to 1987) and I want to buildanother much modified version so I can get cross country a little fasterthan a Piet.I can rent a J3 or Champ for low and slow fun. I lost my med and am waiting to see how slow I'll have to make this KRfor the sport pilot lic. If it's too slow, I'll build the Piet. Pat Driscoll________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By:> "Larry Neal"
Well, actually, it's thanks to you Jim.I have started building again, thanks for the talk and the gift of themagnificently crafted tail feathers! It was good to get together with youand Max, just what I needed to get off my butt and get after things.And let no-one mistake that I was kidding, the KR-2 is a great littleairplane. I'm also working (again) on my PIK-20 sailplane, which is allfiberglass. After being a 1-26 driver for quite a few years, in sailplanecircles I can now be referred to as a glasshole!Larry(Long Fuse, Corvair, and Tall Wheels.)Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Visiting Brodhead>> My 5 year old just walked in the room and said "Dad, why are youlaughing??">> He just wouldn't understand....>> Thanks Larry.....>>> ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: Jim Ash

Original Posted By:> > > "Larry Neal"
Jim,Your name sounds familiar, have we met?It's a PIK 20b, I'm refinishing it and will get signed off with the annual,(in about a year I think ).No, I'm not an A&P, always wished I'd gotten that, but maybe a few yearsdown the road I will do that.I have quite a bit of help, myself, Jim Tsillas, and Mr. H (an F-16 driver)are conspiring with mr. Dick Johnson in rebuilding a few of these birds.It's all good stuff, but nothing like the Piet.Are you building a Piet? Are you a glider pilot?Give me an email separately on the glider stuff, If you're one of theundecided, quit worrying, start building a Piet!Larry>>> >> >Well, actually, it's thanks to you Jim.> >> >I have started building again, thanks for the talk and the gift of the> >magnificently crafted tail feathers! It was good to get together withyou> >and Max, just what I needed to get off my butt and get after things.> >> >And let no-one mistake that I was kidding, the KR-2 is a great little> >airplane. I'm also working (again) on my PIK-20 sailplane, which is all> >fiberglass. After being a 1-26 driver for quite a few years, insailplane> >circles I can now be referred to as a glasshole!> >> >Larry> >(Long Fuse, Corvair, and Tall Wheels.)> >> >> >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Visiting Brodhead> >> >> >> > >> > > My 5 year old just walked in the room and said "Dad, why are you> >laughing??"> > >> > > He just wouldn't understand....> > >> > > Thanks Larry.....> > >> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Hodgson, Mark O"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing to Center Section Gap CoversDick,Stretch it tight,screw it down and don't worry. It's not going anywhere.Corky with heavier alum which I don't need.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: RE: Visiting BrodheadDate: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:22:13 -0400

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: RE: Visiting BrodheadAny kin to Ted Hodgson who was a Program Manager at Chance Vought A/C and developed a beautiful model of an 18-cylinder radial engine?________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:14:33 -0400

Original Posted By: "w b evans"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: brass data plateOscar,I agree with Mike about the data plate. Great job! Tom Travis ________________________________________________________________________________