Original Posted By: clif
Here's an NTSB accident report on a Piet.Fortunatley there was no fatality, but read it and see if you can find whatI did that sounded really odd.....http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_i ... 58&key=1DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:30:41 -0700
Pietenpol-List: what do you find odd in this NTSB report??
Re: Pietenpol-List: what do you find odd in this NTSB report??
Original Posted By: Gary Gower
RE: Pietenpol-List: what do you find odd in this NTSB report??
Original Posted By: "Carl Loar"
This Piet was at Brodhead 93 94 and 95. It was red fuse and cream wing, with Continental power. It had a big rooster on the side, and alarge silver spinner.I found a picture of this plane with the pilot just getting in or out of the REAR pit.I think the FAA report just got it wrong, he was flying from the correct cockpit.http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001211X11558 key=1 --- Skip Cinda Gadd--- csfog(at)earthlink.net ________________________________________________________________________________
This Piet was at Brodhead 93 94 and 95. It was red fuse and cream wing, with Continental power. It had a big rooster on the side, and alarge silver spinner.I found a picture of this plane with the pilot just getting in or out of the REAR pit.I think the FAA report just got it wrong, he was flying from the correct cockpit.http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001211X11558 key=1 --- Skip Cinda Gadd--- csfog(at)earthlink.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: what do you find odd in this NTSB report??
Original Posted By: "DJ Vegh"
I think it was because he was in England AR. It's that being in Englandwith that left side, right side, front seat, back seat stuff. And what'swith that food? It's very confusing there.Carl----- Original Message -----
I think it was because he was in England AR. It's that being in Englandwith that left side, right side, front seat, back seat stuff. And what'swith that food? It's very confusing there.Carl----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Three piece and one piece wings are differen??
Original Posted By: Mike
Well duh, so they are. My question is what is the difference in the wayloads are transferred between wing, center section, and fuselage? First,this is purely rhetorical I'm not proposing any change to the design. AlsoI'm not a mechanical engineer and have zero training in stress analysis.First the one piece spar; within the spar itself compression and tensionloads will be felt by the center section from both wings. In normal flightthe cabane struts and the wing struts will be in tension. The bottomfuselage cross member will also be in tension.Three piece spar; no spar tension loads transferred to the center section,only compression. Cabane struts have far less tension load. Wing struts andbottom fuselage member under much greater tension.O.K. Will somebody who understands the mystic art of stress analysis pleasehelp straighten me out?Bob B - Missouri________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:11:06 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Three piece and one piece wings are differen??
Well duh, so they are. My question is what is the difference in the wayloads are transferred between wing, center section, and fuselage? First,this is purely rhetorical I'm not proposing any change to the design. AlsoI'm not a mechanical engineer and have zero training in stress analysis.First the one piece spar; within the spar itself compression and tensionloads will be felt by the center section from both wings. In normal flightthe cabane struts and the wing struts will be in tension. The bottomfuselage cross member will also be in tension.Three piece spar; no spar tension loads transferred to the center section,only compression. Cabane struts have far less tension load. Wing struts andbottom fuselage member under much greater tension.O.K. Will somebody who understands the mystic art of stress analysis pleasehelp straighten me out?Bob B - Missouri________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:11:06 -0700Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Three piece and one piece wings are differen??
Re: Pietenpol-List: what do you find odd in this NTSB report??
Original Posted By: "baileys"
There is a "Pietenpol" located at the Pinckneyville, IL airport that isflown from the front seat. It seems to be about the same size as a Piet(i.e. - not some ultralight variation) with the exception that it's poweredby a Volkswagen engine. My guess is that the lighter powerplant and thefront seat pilot's position are related. Regardless, it's registered as a"Pietenpol" so the NTSB report may not be incorrect.Robert HainesDu Quoin, Illinois________________________________________________________________________________
There is a "Pietenpol" located at the Pinckneyville, IL airport that isflown from the front seat. It seems to be about the same size as a Piet(i.e. - not some ultralight variation) with the exception that it's poweredby a Volkswagen engine. My guess is that the lighter powerplant and thefront seat pilot's position are related. Regardless, it's registered as a"Pietenpol" so the NTSB report may not be incorrect.Robert HainesDu Quoin, Illinois________________________________________________________________________________