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Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 11:39 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
And now for the impossible question...Background: I am building an Aircamper in the Alaskan Bush to be known as the BethelBelle. This means that getting everything up here the least expensive way(i.e.: barge vs. air) is the first priority. Specifically that means virtually"everything all at once." And as much as possible, all from one source -Aircraft Spruce & Specialty. We're always playing a race against time up here(even in summer) and at $500.00 a month for the hanger I want to keep movingforward at all times. I already have the wing ribs from Charles Rubeck for aone piece wing and I am ready to order the complete spruce kit for the modernizedPietenpol from Aircraft Spruce & Specialty and have their material list forthat. Now the question:What else do I need

In other words, does anyone have a complete and comprehensiveparts list for "all" items needed (plywood, metal, fittings, etc., preferablywith AS&S part numbers). It's not that I can't make sense out of theplans or parts list in the manual but it seems that the two may vary (the onein the manual seems to be for the original Aircamper and the plans for the modernized- am I right here?) I simply want to make sure I'm right as much as possiblebefore ordering and shipping. I intend to follow Mike Cuy's plane almostto the letter with the exception of adding a second fuel tank and one piecewing vs. 3pc. Also, "anything" pre-built I am a definite candidate for andI will go that route when available. What and who is out there in that regard?Talk about a couple of loaded questions huh?Attached are a couple shots of what one day the Bethel Belle will look like (Iam not affilated with the charity by the way, it's just what it's all about).Stacy ClarkBethel, AlaskaP.S. Thanks Mike for the video I've watched it about ten times so far. Love thephrase, "...and the music comes out here." (lol) Also, if anyone sees CharlesRubeck tell him all arrived well and "thanks," and if the plane is half asstrong as his shipping crates I should be able to fly into a brick wall and walkaway

There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that isto achieve it -- Stacy Clark________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 12:35 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Textor, Jack"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: First FlightspIn a message dated 5/19/04 10:30:00 AM Central Daylight Time, jkgm(at)gci.net writes:>And a Big Congratulations to you, Ken, for achieving this milestone !! Thank you for shareing it with the folks on the list. It keeps everyone all stoked up about our beloved design. Celebration is certainly in order, but then it is back to business. The first 20 hours of any homebuilt plane is the most crucial, and most dangerous. You are getting aquinted with an unfamiliar planeand characteristics, and this is when the gremlins will come out and Bite you !! It would be good to do a post flight brief with someone, and talk about every minor detail of the flight. Every flight must be followed by a thouroughpost flight inspection, and every pre-flight should be equilivant to an Annual inspection...which means every inspection cover, entire fuel system, a careful inspection of every fitting and cable, prop torque, and so fourth. Itwould be very beneficial if you would also have a competent assistant to re-inspect everything you already looked at. Plan each flight so that at any pointduring the flight, you have a place to land...probably a difficult thing to doin Alaska. 'Plan the Flight, and Fly the Plan'. Wait for near perfect weather. You'll pay more attention to what she's telling you now, as you get to know each other, and believe me...she will communicate with you !! It's something you have to experience to understand, and you, my friend, are experiencing it !!So, a Big YYEEEE HHAAAAWWW for now, but then go and triple check everything. And keep us updated on your progress. Brodhead is closer than youthink...Chuck GantzerNX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & SpecialtyDate: Fri, 21 May 2004 07:12:04 -0500
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 10:15 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Les Schubert
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 12:24 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 1:33 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
yeah I saw that rendering. nicely done!DJ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 2:03 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: BARNSTMR(at)aol.com
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 2:15 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "John Ford"
Jack,Thanks. I made the image using the side picture in the three-way drawing someonehad scaned from the plans. I then just basically colored it with a programcalled Paint Shop Pro 7 which I have found to be a wonderful program. Don'tknow if any of you would know this but I used to have a company called PROPELLERheadSimulation Software. I used to make instrument panels and aircraft forMicrosoft Flight Simulator.Attached is a picture of the Belle with the Model A engine which because of thelogistics of the flight just wouldn't be practical to use :-(StacyBethel, AlaskaThere is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that isto achieve it -- Stacy Clark________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 14:36:07 -0500
RE: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 2:36 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Stacy Clark"
Nice image Stacey. It's now my office computer wallpaper.LarryRagan Jacksonville, Fl. lragan(at)hotmail.com Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium!________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 2:41 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "walt evans"
Mike,Thanks, yea I've seen DJ's site. As far as the hanger, believe me I suredidn't want to pay that much but prices are what they are up here andhangers are very hard to come by. Milk's $7.00 a gallon to give you anidea. It would have been $450.00 but I lost the coin toss. I'll move intothe hanger in July. I chose it because it's right below the tower (which iswhere I spend most of my time), it's heated, I can store my snowmobile there(which I ride to work in the winter), and they've got pretty much everythingbut an english wheel in there. It also comes with and A&P that happens tolook like Santa Claus and you can bet I'm going to milk that angle for allit's worth since I'm doing this for the kids at St. Jude. Santa also has aton of aircraft engines... And, the co-owner of the hanger has a bunch ofModel A engines -- talk about coincidence.StacyBethel, AlaskaThere is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and thatis to achieve it -- Stacy Clark________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:08 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Stacy Clark"
John,Yep, I've definitely thought about it, thought about wheels/skis combinationtoo.StacyThere is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and thatis to achieve it -- Stacy Clark________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:12 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Stacy Clark"
Larry,Wow! Thanks! Here's the wallpaper I use (made it with Paint Shop Pro from anonline image)...Stacy :-)There is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that isto achieve it -- Stacy Clark________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:18 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
DJ,Thanks

I thought I saw your aircraft up on eBay, are you doing another?StacyThere is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that isto achieve it -- Stacy Clark________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 10:35 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Stacy Clark
>>Thanks

I thought I saw your aircraft up on eBay, are you doing another?nope.. I bought that one so that I could use it's wings. I then sold the fuseand tail feathers.... thats what you saw on ebay.DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Parts List - Aircraft Spruce & Specialty
Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 3:30 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Jim Markle"
Clif,It's not practical...that's why I'm building it and flying it to Memphis

Underthe heading of perhaps "Too Much Information," maybe this will explain itto your friend a little better (attached). This whole project is "exactly" allabout the impossibilities. I certainly don't go into it lightly or blindly.No matter the distance, it is always one little (pre-planned, weighed, andcalculated) step at a time.StacyThere is only one greater thing than to believe in the impossible...and that isto achieve it -- Stacy Clark________________________________________________________________________________