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Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city street

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:32 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Galen Hutcheson
fellow Aircamper friends,an off topic rant....this didn't make national news, but it's all over the South Bend, IN press. My cousin works at the Southbend airport and called me a couple days ago telling me that a Pilatus lost engine power 10 min. after takeoff. The Pilatus was at 7,000' and 7 miles away and could not make the field. Weather was cold with light snow showers and snow covering the ground. The pilot, a 25 yr old, had 5 passengers on board and decided to set it down on a street in town. There is a fast food restaurant, hotel, and retail shopping center within 100 yds. He managed to go over a set of power lines and then under a set right before setting down. The right wing clipped something but that the extent of the damage. No one hurt.In my opinion the pilot did a marvelous job getting that large aircraft down with not even so much as a bruise or scratch on anyone.And now we have people like this (click link below)http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories ... fen.stofor those who don't wish to read the article.... there is a guy who was driving on the street when he saw the plane coming down. He claims he had to jump the curb to miss a collision with the plane. Then he proceeds to bitch and complain about how the pilot made a bad decision trying to land on the street. his exact words are"I cannot believe they sent that plane down in probably the most congested area in Michiana. I'm thankful that no one was hurt, but it was an unnecessary risk."Who is this jackass?! I'm sorry a**hole, but the unnecessary risk would have been setting the plane down in the only other option which is the woods. Certain death.I'll bet anyone a million bucks that if that prick was sitting next to the pilot when the engine flamed out and the pilot said that he would set down in the woods and most likely there would be fatalities, but he should do that because it's an unnecessary risk to attempt to set down on a city street, I know for a fact that dude would be BEGGING the pilot to land on the street. You'd hear that guy whining, wimpering, screaming, crying, pleading to "please please please take the street option".This guy makes me want to find him and slap him upside the ass with my Tennesee Props 66" propeller.This is probably the same type of guy who buys a house next to an airport and then complains about the noise.DJ Vegh_________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:18:44 -0800 (PST)

Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city street

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:24 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Galen Hutcheson

Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city street

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:33 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: N321TX(at)wmconnect.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city streetI read just the article and as someone who started working in TV news in 1973, the report typically balanced the idiot's narrowminded stupidity with positive coverage about the pilot's incredible feat. Many reporters seem to alwayslook for the extreme (idiot) in telling one side of the story. (It sells newspapers and gets ratings on TV... sad but true.)I'm going to forward this to AOPA, I'm certain they are in the loop on this, but the general public AND NEWS MEDIA need to understand that aviator's don't have many options in emergency situations like this.I know of a pilot who was flying from Washington, DC to Houston Texas in a Falcon 20 jet back in the 1970s on a cold winter evening. One of the two engines flamed out during the pitch black night, over Tennessee. Weather was badfor the entire trip and monster thunderstorms were brewing over much of Texas.The pilot had a full passenger load and the Falcon was also heavy with fuel. The co-pilot couldn't get the engine re-lit and as the co-pilot scrtutinized theone remaining engine that was running, he became concerned about an anomoly he saw on a guage with the only powerplant that was keeping them airborne. Theydecided to land on one engine at Knoxville, TN. It was snowing, very dark and the runway was nothing more than a white blur. Even Eskimos would not have been out mushing their dogs on a night like this. The radar altimeter (along with all the other instruments) but mainly the pilot and co-pilots experience and training every 6 months at Flight Safety played a key role in helping them set the airplane down, where they could. As theytaxied up to the FBO and let the CEO and President of this multi-billion dollar industry off the airplane, the pilot didn't tell the passengers he neversaw the runway upon landing. (I suspect the FAA never heard word of it either.) The pilot eventually told his young son a few days later, and that's one of the reasons I didn't want to follow my dad as a professional aviator. His flamed-out Falcon story, durring a blizzard, at night is just one of many talesmy old man brought back home, time-and-time again, to share with me of his flyingadventures... I'm confident the 25 year-old Pilatus aviator (with his exceptional skills and good decision making processes) will one day be an 85 year old, gray hairedfather like my dad... who still has his license and who can still teach his son how to do dead stick landings in a tail dragger.Give me low and slow in a Pietenpol on any blue day... and leave the heroic stuff to the pro who landed the Pilatus... and to old men with gray hair that have stories to tell their kids.________________________________________________________________________________

Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city street

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:39 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Galen Hutcheson"
Walt Coffee a former used car salesman and bar owner in Kansas City had asign in his bar that said " SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY UNLESS THAY ARE NOTHAPPY"he also had a sigh that said "OUR SERVICE MAY BE BAD BUT AT LEAST IT'S SLOW"----- Original Message -----

Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city street

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:27 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Clif Dawson

Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city street

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:32 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: N321TX(at)wmconnect.com
Saw the same thing last year when the Staten Island Ferry, in NY harbor, crashedinto the nearby pier. We had been working on another boat nearby, and had leftfor the day when it happened. When I was watching the coverage on TV thatafternoon, the News man interviewed a passenger getting off the boat and shesaid " Good thing we didn't sink cause there weren't enough life jackets on board". Next day I asked the head of the maintanence facility about it. He said thecapacity of the ferry boat is 6,000 people, and there are over 7,000 lifejacketson board.Now what right does that TV station have to put out a lie like that without checkingfacts? They should be held accountable. Guess it makes people tune in.Go figure.walt evansNX140DL ----- Original Message -----

Re: Pietenpol-List: OT - Pilatus lands on city street

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:40 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy

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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:32 am
by matronics
Original Posted By: Galen Hutcheson