Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy

Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Scary GN-1 on ebay now......in Texas.Yo Mike,Looks like an Aircamper to me... I thought the major difference was that the GN-1 had a steel tube fuselage. This one's wood. I'm no expert, though,so I readily admit ignorance if I a wrong. ;)Anyway, I agree that this thing is crazy scary. Definitely NOT worth the $6,500 buy-it-now price, or the current bid price of $4,000!!! Some people arejust suckers for a "good deal", and don't do their homework before they open their wallets. Too bad...-WayneIn a message dated 3/15/2005 8:00:09 AM Central Standard Time, Michael.D.Cuy(at)grc.nasa.gov writes:I like how the seller calls this a Pietenpol Air Camper when it is not....and the fact that he says "easily repaired"and "light wing damage". Oh right-----take a look at the photos. I would steer way clear of this baby.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Scary GN-1 on ebay now......in Texas.Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:32:26 -0800

Original Posted By: N925WB1(at)aol.com
the easiest way to tell a GN-1 from a Piet is the landing gear. On the Piet thefront and rear tubes of the gear meet up at the lift struts. On a GN-1 therear tube meets the fuselage in front of the rear lift strut. Thats becauseGN-1's use a J-3 landing gear.And yes... this one look spretty scary indeed. I'd give about $3000 for it. ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: "Frank Metcalfe"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Scary GN-1 on ebay now......in Texas.DJ,Thanks for clearing that up for me. I learn something new all the time from this list, even if I am just a casual observer!BTW - I would assume then that the Pietenpol rear LG strut arrangement would be stonger than that of the GN-1, as the landing loads would be trasmitted throught the attach fittings, into the wing struts, through the wings, and then back down on the other side, thereby creating a box (similar to a biplanewing configuration) ; whereas the GN-1 loads would be completely absorbed by the lower longeron, putting in it shear between the rear LG attach fitting, and the rear strut attach point. Just a thought.-WayneIn a message dated 3/15/2005 8:56:09 AM Central Standard Time, djv(at)imagedv.com writes:the easiest way to tell a GN-1 from a Piet is the landing gear. On the Piet the front and rear tubes of the gear meet up at the lift struts. On a GN-1 the rear tube meets the fuselage in front of the rear lift strut. Thatsbecause GN-1's use a J-3 landing gear.And yes... this one look spretty scary indeed. I'd give about $3000 for it.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
Wayne,You have hit on another way you can tell a GN1 from a Piet.Use the ebay link below and check out the picture of the inside of the cockpit.You will see an extra upright about 6 or 8 inches from another upright. Gregahad to put the extra upright in so there would be an upright intersecting thelower longeron at both L/G and lift strut locations.GN1s also have 2 fairing strips down the side of the fuselage where Piets onlyhave one. Skiphttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4534270000&category=63677&sspagename=WDVWBTW - I would assume then that the Pietenpol rear LG strut arrangement would bestonger than that of the GN-1, as the landing loads would be trasmitted throughtthe attach fittings, into the wing struts, through the wings, and then backdown on the other side, thereby creating a box (similar to a biplane wing configuration); whereas the GN-1 loads would be completely absorbed by the lowerlongeron, putting in it shear between the rear LG attach fitting, and the rearstrut attach point. Just a thought.-Wayne________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:10:44 -0800