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Pietenpol-List: Gordon's Piet
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:16 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "walt evans"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Gordon's Piet
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:59 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: "Michael D Cuy"
Mike,Thanks, the guy that deserves the credit was an AP with Cessna in KS. Hebuilt the Piete with 4130 steel, this made a very lite wgt plane. Aeroncamade three wings based on my research, 1100 thru 1300 lbs of lift. Thesewings appear to come from the bigger payload based on size. My only realcontribution to this plane was the rebuild, recover, paint and engineconversion after it set in the hanger for the last 8 years due to the wreck.The guy that sold it to me (second owner/non-builder) made a couplemistakes- first an most important--- not enough bungee for a hard landing.And no safety straps on gear to insure they won't rotate out and up whenbungees are at full stretch. When wrecked the gear slipped out of theexpansion tube, bent up 90 degrees, bent up the wing struts and dipped thewing into the ground. I think this amount of damage could have been avoidedwith enough Cub like bungees, and cable stop straps. The wreck occurred dueto a thrown piston on C-85.The O-235 was questionable due to fact everything was designed around C-85wt. My building partner is 80 years old and didn't want to hand prop, andI'm quite a number of lbs over the standard FAA 170 lb pilot. So wanted tohave plane that would balance with a fat boy in the pilot seat, withoutballast up front or in back. The Cozy is so tail heavy, you need to havemin. of 250 lbs in front seat to fly without ballast. Without 10 lbs in thenose, it'll fall on it's prop if you don't park nose gear retracted. So hadsome experience in trying to find balance.The O-235 is an excellent engine for the Piete. It's available, cheap, hasa lot of accessory options. You just have to adjust for the excess weightup front. The Piets a great design for mods. as long as you plan the modsduring the building process. I wish I had made the fuselage a little widerwhile we were rewelding the wreck damage. Love the Piete, because of it'sversatility, even if I'm not a purest.Gordon Bowen----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: dihedral vs. no dihedral final outcome
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:45 pm
by matronics
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: dihedral vs. no dihedral final outcomeIn a message dated 5/6/2005 6:43:51 AM Central Standard Time, docfont(at)voyager.net writes:Just like the logic that if God had wanted people to run around naked, he would have made them that way.DocFontHi Doc !!That must be the logic they use at 'Party Cove' !! :)Chuck G.________________________________________________________________________________