Brodhead Pietenpol Association

Original Posted By: "Catdesign"
I have found lots of different plans and mods for the piet. Who has the easiestto decipher? How about Keri-Ann's three piece wing? Gas tank? Are there caddrawings? Thanks.________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: "The Schuerrs"
Question:I have found lots of different plans and mods for the piet. Who has the easiestto decipher? How about Keri-Ann's three piece wing? Gas tank? Are there caddrawings? Thanks.Answer:Lets see the plans that I know of for sale are:The original plans in the Flying and Glider Magazine, reprints available from theEAA (Expensive Aircraft Association)The Improved Pietenpol plans from Don Pietenpol or is it his son Andrew (?) sellingthem now.The British Pietenpol plans are not available in USA, liability concerns.Then there are the GN-1 plans, which WAS NOT designed by Pietenpol but by JohnGrega. Even though the GN-looks like a Piet, the GN-1 has some significant differencesand is not a Pietenpol its a Grega. I here they are good planes, maybeslightly heavier. I understand the GN-1 plans have recently been re-drawn inCAD. There is the Pietenpol knock-off that was sold by some other company, but I cantremember the name right now.Keri-Ann's Price's plans are for subcomponents not the whole plane and seem expensive.I have not see their quality but I would imagine they are good basedon the plane she built.I personally have the Improved Pietenpol plans from Don and the Grega GN-1 plans.I think the Pietenpol plans are way better to understand. Not perfect butafter a while you realize everything you need in on there. I think it's cool tobuild from the old plans. I would recommend them and besides this way you arebuilding a true Pietenpol. No offence GN-1 guysChris TracySacramento, Ca________________________________________________________________________________

Original Posted By: Catdesign
Chris,Thanks, seems to make sense. Do you have a three piece wing?Steve ----- Original Message -----

Original Posted By: The Schuerrs
Yes I have the 3-piece wing plans form Vi Kapler, purchased from Don. Guess Ishould say there are also the Long fuselage supplemental plans available fromDon.Chris TracySacramento, Ca ----- Original Message -----

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Original Posted By: Hans Vander Voort
Yesterday evening it was perfect spring flying weather here in Texas, noneed for winter gear and light wind.Took my Pietenpol up and decided to fly a track to compare GPS and ASI'smore accurately.I flew a triangular track with 1 mile each leg and a constant speed of 60Mph on my cockpit ASI.I flew the track twice with the same speed.Started the track with my handheld GPS (Garmin E-trex Vista) and resettingthe trip log.The trip log gives you an average speed over a track.The results where as follows:Cockpit (Pitot) ASI 60 MphJohnson (home made) ASI 67 MphGPS average over track 65 MphIn a previous e-mail a stated a stall speed of 28 Mph (Cockpit ASI) butmost likely my Factory calibrated Cockpit ASI is reading a bout 5 Mph tolow.And stall speed is closer to 33 Mph.At least the Cockpit ASI is indicating lower than actual, its error is onthe safe side.Hans________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: bracing wire tapeCc: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com, pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Gary,I used chaffing tape, left over from the covering process, the fabric tapethat goes underneath the poly fiber and over sharp metal corners.Wrapped the tape around the cables a few times and then tied it all upwith safety wire.You want to avoid metal to metal (cable to cable) contact as it could wearout the cable.Hans________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:35:27 -0500

Original Posted By: Tom Bernie
I worked with Bob Grega when he decided to create the CAD drawings. I cantell you that while they still need work they are of great improvement overthe original had drawn plans. The hand drawn plans were in need of seriouswork.Bob contantly makes revisions to the plans and sends them out to plansholders. In fact he called me a several weeks ago and we talked for wellover an hour abotu some changes that needed made. About 2 weeks later I gotthe revisions in the mail.These things take time and before long the new GN1 CAD plans will be nearlyerror free.DJ>They probably happened in the conversion to CAD and were not caught in theediting process. Also, there are no illustrations or 3D drawings that wouldbe extremely helpful.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:52:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

Original Posted By: "Tom Bernie"
I think he reads this list.----- Original Message -----

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Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy

Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"